back in the da mix


will they still be there by the TDL?
- Symba007

I still think they made deals, even if close, that make sense for next year+ rather than hold on to what they have (or even buy). Of course being a buyer for a player(s) that would help now as well as long-term would be ideal.

can they maintain that level of play over time? We don't know....they have not done it in the past few years
- Symba007

well I Think this week will stir them one way or the other, Van, Was and Dallas ist not an easy week !

So Vatrano's extension will see him only start getting paid $9M of it in 2035
- mr.peanut

does that change anything for the cap hit ?

does that change anything for the cap hit ?
- Xizord

yes, deferred payments allows the cap hit to be a little lower.

Signed for 3yrs, 18M, instead of a 6M cap hit, they get a 4.57M cap hit. Giving 1.43M a year cap space for Anaheim.

Vattrano says he will move out of California eventually to a lower tax state.

yes, deferred payments allows the cap hit to be a little lower.

Signed for 3yrs, 18M, instead of a 6M cap hit, they get a 4.57M cap hit. Giving 1.43M a year cap space for Anaheim.

Vattrano says he will move out of California eventually to a lower tax state.
- Symba007

What is that crap team going to spend the extra money on?

well I Think this week will stir them one way or the other, Van, Was and Dallas ist not an easy week !
- Xizord

they just need to survive until Feb 9th...then they are off for 13 days (4 nations gimmick), Habs play on the 23rd after that, TDL is on March 7th

What is that crap team going to spend the extra money on?
- AdamFrench

Marner as UFA this summer

yes, deferred payments allows the cap hit to be a little lower.

Signed for 3yrs, 18M, instead of a 6M cap hit, they get a 4.57M cap hit. Giving 1.43M a year cap space for Anaheim.

Vattrano says he will move out of California eventually to a lower tax state.
- Symba007

Do they even need the cap space right now? That is the head scratching part to me... they will likely need the cap space down the road.

Maybe they want cap flex for deadline deals, dunno. But looks like they currently have $32M.

Strange.

Marner as UFA this summer
- Symba007

Marner's going to sign for 10mil x8 and do a solid to his favourite childhood team like all of the other GTA stars do historically.

Do they even need the cap space right now? That is the head scratching part to me... they will likely need the cap space down the road.

Maybe they want cap flex for deadline deals, dunno. But looks like they currently have $32M.

Strange.
- Mashadar

that's part nobody understand, the timing of this move, it's not like they are the Leafs right against the cap in a high tax market in immediate desperate need of cap relief.

Do they even need the cap space right now? That is the head scratching part to me... they will likely need the cap space down the road.

Maybe they want cap flex for deadline deals, dunno. But looks like they currently have $32M.

Strange.
- Mashadar

well its never bad to have some room...great negotiation tool with other teams !

Marner's going to sign for 10mil x8 and do a solid to his favourite childhood team like all of the other GTA stars do historically.
- AdamFrench

he will sign in his Leafs PJ's, from his childhood bedroom with leafs bedsheets and a millennium falcon dildo on the wall.

that part nobody understands the timing of this move, it's not like they are the Leafs right against the cap in a high tax market in immediate desperate need of cap relief.
- Symba007

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Yeah, I had to check to see if they were up against the cap or something, but they are nowhere close! Seems strange for them to do.... maybe that is what Vetrano wanted and they gave it to him.

Can't see how that is a Ducks ask.

they just need to survive until Feb 9th...then they are off for 13 days (4 nations gimmick), Habs play on the 23rd after that, TDL is on March 7th
- Symba007

well do we even want them too ? I mean finishing 9th would be not great, not sure even about 8th !

that part nobody understands the timing of this move, it's not like they are the Leafs right against the cap in a high tax market in immediate desperate need of cap relief.
- Symba007

Aside from head hunting in the summers to come, I guess they want to sign their young guys to long term "potential" style deals like Slaf/Stutzle/Sanderson etc.?

Aside from head hunting in the summers to come, I guess they want to sign their young guys to long term "potential" style deals like Slaf/Stutzle/Sanderson etc.?
- AdamFrench

most teams want to lock them early but the Vatrano deal is only 3yrs

Habs no longer in the mix....

https://www.lapresse.ca/s...-loterie.php?sharing=true

I see the "other" habs blog is rocking as usual.

most teams want to lock them early but the Vatrano deal is only 3yrs
- Symba007

Yes, but lower cap hit for the 3 years so if you give 3 guys 8mil deals you don't feel it.

Who knows. Maybe Vatrano would prefer getting a paycheck in retirement in Nashville or Florida instead of a lump sum.

Yes, but lower cap hit for the 3 years so if you give 3 guys 8mil deals you don't feel it.

Who knows. Maybe Vatrano would prefer getting a paycheck in retirement in Nashville or Florida instead of a lump sum.
- AdamFrench

some agents didn't think it was that good of a deal either way

Allan Walsh🏒
@walsha
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21h
Assuming inflation rate of 2% per yr for 10 yrs and invested funds in a SP500 index fund rises 7% per yr compounding annually (the time value of money), this is a questionable tax strategy. A player (even paying CA income tax) could well end up better off not deferring.

Habs no longer in the mix....

https://www.lapresse.ca/s...-loterie.php?sharing=true
- Symba007

Don't give up hope...

some agents didn't think it was that good of a deal either way

Allan Walsh🏒
@walsha
·
21h
Assuming inflation rate of 2% per yr for 10 yrs and invested funds in a SP500 index fund rises 7% per yr compounding annually (the time value of money), this is a questionable tax strategy. A player (even paying CA income tax) could well end up better off not deferring.
- Symba007

Allan Walsh would say that though...

Allan Walsh would say that though...
- AdamFrench

Wait until he gets a deal like that for one of his guys. He’ll let everyone know on his podcast how genius it was

some agents didn't think it was that good of a deal either way

Allan Walsh🏒
@walsha
·
21h
Assuming inflation rate of 2% per yr for 10 yrs and invested funds in a SP500 index fund rises 7% per yr compounding annually (the time value of money), this is a questionable tax strategy. A player (even paying CA income tax) could well end up better off not deferring.
- Symba007

Maybe it's philosophical, they don't want to pay for sex changes in californian prisons.

Allan Walsh would say that though...
- AdamFrench

More likely it is not in Walsh's interest (financially) to see these type of deals.