How do you know that? The Flyers are up to picking 6th currently, and once they make some deadline deals they will be picking in the top 5 for sure. Will they have the assets to move up to the second pick, which is where Hagens is projected to go? Not sure. But the Flyers should be in good position to get a top center in this draft. And with Luchanko coming in next year, and maybe the player they select also being ready, Bonk coming up, plus Michkov with a year under his belt. You can start to see a new, young and exciting core developing. It's not all doom and gloom folks.
- jd250

These prospects are no different than what most other teams have. Bonks and luchankos are a dime a dozen. They need 2 more Michkov level impact players. Not the skill of him but the impact on a game he projects to have.

How do you know they'll make some deadline deals?

- MJL

Because that is the logical thing to do. This is a 34-39-10 team over the past 83 games. There is no way Briere is not making deadline deals. I would be absolutely shocked and on top of that, completely, 100% aligned with you and others that call this leadership team incompetent.

How do you know they'll make some deadline deals?

- MJL

I'm sure somebody will be willing to trade a 1C for the invaluable Scott Laughton.

They put this team together. The incompetence is saying that you want to stay out of the bottom and compete because they don't want to get stuck there. Then have the team be where they are now. Instead of trying to compete, realize accurately where your team is and move assets to guarantee as best you can to get that top player. They refuse to do so. That's the incompetence. The inability to accurately assess the team and make the correct corresponding moves that are neccessary.
- MJL

Hope Torts stay. They just will bring in the poorest version of Torts in Lappy. That will just put flyers further behind in the simpelton stone age of hockey.

Your last line is the key. Sell anyone at the tdl other than say mm and maybe Foerster. Get picks for this year and next. Once they get creamed tonight vs Anaheim that should be the focus. IMO, this was the best plan all along even had they been holding down a solid playoff spot. They’re nowhere near ready to hang with the big dogs yet. Also, free Emil. The team has regressed big time since his demotion. 3 5 1 in that span.

Maybe they did it to purposefully tank. Haha

https://thehockeywriters....-by-demoting-emil-andrae/
- Hextall271

yea the stats match the eye test. Let him play big minutes in LHV and let this team tank out. Like how we got here or not, we are here and it is where we need to be. Candidly, it has a shot to be a great way to tank, make people beleive you could make the playoffs, get to mid-season, slowly tank out, sell at the TDL, and have only a short runway for the team and fans to really know, there was never a chance this season. If DB can sell at the TDL, and sell in the off-season, we will have to acknowledge he did it the right way. But if they don't sell in a big way, JUST DUMB.

These prospects are no different than what most other teams have. Bonks and luchankos are a dime a dozen. They need 2 more Michkov level impact players. Not the skill of him but the impact on a game he projects to have.
- Just5

Who cares what other teams have. Other teams have elite players also. What matters to me is can Bonk and Luchanko develop into very good NHL players and I think they can.

Because that is the logical thing to do. This is a 34-39-10 team over the past 83 games. There is no way Briere is not making deadline deals. I would be absolutely shocked and on top of that, completely, 100% aligned with you and others that call this leadership team incompetent.
- jd250

I hope they trade some guys away at the deadline

Because that is the logical thing to do. This is a 34-39-10 team over the past 83 games. There is no way Briere is not making deadline deals. I would be absolutely shocked and on top of that, completely, 100% aligned with you and others that call this leadership team incompetent.
- jd250

Oh so you can project something about the future. Use reasoning and history to come to an opinion about something happening in the future . It's called deductive reasoning. Yet when someone else does it and you don't like the projection. It's " you don't know that" or " how do you know that". It's an inconsistency that you really need to correct.

Torts explained that the only reason he tried Poehling on that line is to inject some speed into the line. In other words, Couts is painstakingly slow and can't keep up with Tips and TK. But you can see that even with his speed, Poehling has very poor offensive IQ and does not make the right plays at the right times. But this is the fact of what the Flyers have at center, which I would say is the worst in the league. And I love Cates and think he is going to be a really good 3rd line center, but that's about it. Going into next year my hope is you have whomever the Flyers draft this year plus Luchanko as the top 2 centers, and then Cates and Couts to round it out. That will be at least worth watching.
- jd250

Yet Couturier has significantly better on ice results than Poehling does. Maybe if Tortorella would move into the modern world, he would know that also.

What incompetence? Briere has basically done nothing acquire draft picks It isnt like hes going out and using assets to add players and they still suck.He is literally just letting things play out which isvwhat we need
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Didn't trade sl or tk when their ceilings were his. Extended ns, gh, and rp instead of trading them for picks -- ns is effectively blocking ea from the NHL lineup

gmdb has done very little to improve the short or long-term prospects of this team

How do you know they'll make some deadline deals?

- MJL

cause the triumvirate says they are rebuilding, duh!

Torts explained that the only reason he tried Poehling on that line is to inject some speed into the line. In other words, Couts is painstakingly slow and can't keep up with Tips and TK. But you can see that even with his speed, Poehling has very poor offensive IQ and does not make the right plays at the right times. But this is the fact of what the Flyers have at center, which I would say is the worst in the league. And I love Cates and think he is going to be a really good 3rd line center, but that's about it. Going into next year my hope is you have whomever the Flyers draft this year plus Luchanko as the top 2 centers, and then Cates and Couts to round it out. That will be at least worth watching.
- jd250

go flyers. too funny

Wouldn't want all that prime talent and culture of winning to slip out the door
- Tomahawk

It's great watching all the kids develop in a competitive environment!

I responded to this statement you made: yet these incompetent fools will not do what is needed to put themselves in a position to actually try to draft him.
- jd250

correct they will not. that is a fact. doing it by accident and not design is incompetence.

or do you disagree?

Because that is the logical thing to do. This is a 34-39-10 team over the past 83 games. There is no way Briere is not making deadline deals. I would be absolutely shocked and on top of that, completely, 100% aligned with you and others that call this leadership team incompetent.
- jd250

You need this deadline to believe that they’re incompetent?

The tippet and konecny deals have proven that there is no plan here

Lappy is still in Lehigh valley culturing up the kids.

I'm sure somebody will be willing to trade a 1C for the invaluable Scott Laughton.
- Tomahawk

culture > talent - it is the flyer way

For anyone that was holding out hope that this management group could do something positive to move the needle. The konency deal should have erased completely any of that hope

culture > talent - it is the flyer way
- corduroy

Culture comes first. It’s like DEI on ice

Looking at teams that might think they can make the playoffs, like the Sens, DB needs to trade Laughton before the deadline and before the bubble teams take a step back. If you look at the wildcard in the east, you will see teams after Boston who hold games in hand and could easily jump over Boston, looks like at least 4, do what you have to do to get their 1st round pick.

We need another 5 game bad stretch, losing to the Ducks would help.

Who cares what other teams have. Other teams have elite players also. What matters to me is can Bonk and Luchanko develop into very good NHL players and I think they can.
- jd250

We don't need very good. We need all star to elite.

Looking at teams that might think they can make the playoffs, like the Sens, DB needs to trade Laughton before the deadline and before the bubble teams take a step back. If you look at the wildcard in the east, you will see teams after Boston who hold games in hand and could easily jump over Boston, looks like at least 4, do what you have to do to get their 1st round pick.

We need another 5 game bad stretch, losing to the Ducks would help.
- wcorvette

agree and he will not 100% do that. they are still in "it".

is he even allowed to trade.....

Yet Couturier has significantly better on ice results than Poehling does. Maybe if Tortorella would move into the modern world, he would know that also.
- MJL

Torts only sees "him skate fast, him play good" when it comes to Poehling.

It's great watching all the kids develop in a competitive environment!
- TobyFlenderson

It must be dawning on some of these kids that matter how much they stick to the system, how much they support each other, how much they sacrifice personally... at the end of the day when a superior opponent comes along they really don't have any hope of winning.

I guess that's building character?

If the gameplan is to draft and develop- fine. The issue for me is usually every draft has at least a few prospects that could be elite. So why this organization does not place itself in the best opportunity to draft those prospects by quite frankly losing. They got extremely lucky Michkov dropping to 7. Good job by Briere making the pick. Supposedly Briere wanted Demidov. Could not get him at #12. History has proven GMs do not trade out of the top 5-no matter the packqge. Really liked D$ckinson, well letting the season play out and let the chips fall where they will- how did that work out. We'll see how Jett develops.

Right now, the Flyers have the opportunity to select in the top 5 this year. The goaltending stinks. All Briere has to do is trade just a few of the "culture" guys to get the job done. Even take less value on the trade because the payoff is ensuring a top 5 pick. We'll see if Briere has learned a lesson.

Yet Couturier has significantly better on ice results than Poehling does. Maybe if Tortorella would move into the modern world, he would know that also.
- MJL

All I know is Couts was slow and behind the play an awful lot. He can't keep up with TK and Tips. The Flyers need better centers regardless of what Cout's on ice results are.