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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 3:38 PM ET
Thanks Yorkmeister.

They have no cycle. They are straight into the boards and hope for the best. Too many dump ins with a weak forecheck. They don't seem to like to carry the puck over the blue line these days. Not a good recipe for creating offensive chances.

That drop pass on the PP entry can also fuck off any time now.

- Load Management

All to the point.

The drop back pass should be to Hughes unless he’s the only one capable of gaining neutral zone ice lol

Dump ins poorly executed. No speed on them or zone entries. Puck hounds & skilled entries just suck.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Saturday @ 3:39 PM ET
Starting the season crapping the bed at home & great road warriors was a sign. At home hasn’t changed & on the road is now the same results. Injuries have really hurt to find any traction. The regression is painful with only Hughes out there able to do anything.

That all said a major shake up looms.

- Nighthawk


Correct, the team needs to be blown up. Keep QH, listen on everyone else.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 3:44 PM ET
Correct, the team needs to be blown up. Keep QH, listen on everyone else.
- VanHockeyGuy

In season retool isn’t the worst idea. There isn’t enough good things going on to latch on to. Good thing there is other teams needing big changes to trade with. Either pull the trigger on a big trade(s) or ride out the season if no solid offers.

This will go one of 2 ways…
They somehow turn it around but looking very unlikely or patience & keep sinking & wait til offseason. More likely a big trade before the TDL & more in the offseason.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Saturday @ 3:46 PM ET
CBJ called up Mateychuk and Luca Belluz and they’re both doing well, Canadian boys. Belluz had 1-1-2 his first game.
- Pacificgem


I watched their last game. It was nice to see all those young players.
Also, Zach. Werenski is a pretty good defenseman.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Saturday @ 3:49 PM ET
Correct, the team needs to be blown up. Keep QH, listen on everyone else.
- VanHockeyGuy


I don't think it does.

Allvin and Ruthy made good choices last FA, and this past summer they just completely misjudged the defense.

One version of a retool on the fly: Trade one of Miller or Petey for a good haul (center and defender). Trade for a young top 4 D (Byram). Trade Boeser at TDL.

Then go Vegas model and just load up on talent with picks you've acquired.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 3:59 PM ET
On the brighter side we have pieces that can fetch new talent unlike in the past decade. Need to keep picks.

The next steps are moving on & remake the roster & keep only a few key pieces imo. Hughes Hronek Debrusk Sherwood. Other than youngins all others should be available at the right price. D has to be priority.

When the dust settles 3 top 4 D are a must at least 1 top 6 C in the fold whether Petey or Miller or neither if a legit C comes here. Demko gone or not is a big decision. That’s a different can o worms. Build out from the D.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:01 PM ET
I don't think it does.

Allvin and Ruthy made good choices last FA, and this past summer they just completely misjudged the defense.

One version of a retool on the fly: Trade one of Miller or Petey for a good haul (center and defender). Trade for a young top 4 D (Byram). Trade Boeser at TDL.

Then go Vegas model and just load up on talent with picks you've acquired.

- NewYorkNuck

Vegas hunts for size & speed & use a system that closes space all over the ice. A great model but hard to achieve.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:09 PM ET
After a shake up the possible left overs…

??? ??? Debrusk
(Garland) ??? Leki
Suter Bleuger Sherwood
Joshua Sasson ???

Hughes Hronek
Soucy Willander
??? (Myers)
Juulsen

In brackets undecided if here or gone depends on how far to go on retool or fetch the desired return.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Saturday @ 4:25 PM ET
I don't think it does.

Allvin and Ruthy made good choices last FA, and this past summer they just completely misjudged the defense.

One version of a retool on the fly: Trade one of Miller or Petey for a good haul (center and defender). Trade for a young top 4 D (Byram). Trade Boeser at TDL.

Then go Vegas model and just load up on talent with picks you've acquired.

- NewYorkNuck


Canucks motto "F*ck them picks"
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:25 PM ET
I’m buying into last season was built more on career seasons that just didn’t carry forward to this season. Didn’t expect such a drop off by so many but others have stepped up not enough to offset into this. Playing the system & sticking to staples is at the root of a lot of it. The D the easy stand out before onto Petey Miller Joshua Hog & to a lesser degree Boeser.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:27 PM ET
Canucks motto "F*ck them picks"
- VanHockeyGuy

Hoping that changes. I don’t mind if necessary to add a later pick to dump a Desharnais. Keep 1sts 2nds 3rds.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Saturday @ 4:28 PM ET
I watched their last game. It was nice to see all those young players.
Also, Zach. Werenski is a pretty good defenseman.

- Reubenkincade

Olivier is a beast that every team needs 1 or 2 of.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Saturday @ 4:29 PM ET
Hoping that changes. I don’t mind if necessary to add a later pick to dump a Desharnais. Keep 1sts 2nds 3rds.
- Nighthawk


Lol, 1st and 2nd are as good as gone.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Saturday @ 4:30 PM ET
It’s not even that not playing up to any level of consistency. 60 minute hockey just isn’t there.
- Nighthawk

Morning.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:32 PM ET
On D in theory having 4 trees like Myers Soucy Forbort Desharnais is fine for depth as 5/6/7/8 with maybe one of those 2nd pair. Ideally not Myers. Problem is not having at least 3 legit top 4D.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:34 PM ET
Lol, 1st and 2nd are as good as gone.
- VanHockeyGuy

Idk tbh I’m expecting hockey trades don’t see trading the 1st this year as a desperation PO push.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:35 PM ET
1st big domino to fall should get top 4D.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Saturday @ 4:35 PM ET
Idk tbh I’m expecting hockey trades don’t see trading the 1st this year as a desperation PO push.
- Nighthawk


Hey I hope you are right!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Saturday @ 4:35 PM ET
Thanks Yorkmeister.

They have no cycle. They are straight into the boards and hope for the best. Too many dump ins with a weak forecheck. They don't seem to like to carry the puck over the blue line these days. Not a good recipe for creating offensive chances.

That drop pass on the PP entry can also fuck off any time now.

- Load Management

Seems to work with McDavid/Drai.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Saturday @ 4:38 PM ET
Blow em up, keep...

Both goalie's
QH & Hronek
Debrusk, Garland

The rest can go.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:44 PM ET
Trading Boeser & insert Leki isn’t the end of the world. Save the cap hit & get a fair return(s).

Boeser for Oliver Moore+
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Saturday @ 4:44 PM ET
Seems to work with McDavid/Drai.
- LordHumungous


They have an "identity".
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:45 PM ET
Hey I hope you are right!
- VanHockeyGuy

I hope so too also it makes too much sense but when have I ever made sense lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Saturday @ 4:47 PM ET
They have an "identity".
- VanHockeyGuy

Draft 1oa forever & see what sticks identity. Luck out on McD is fluke
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Saturday @ 4:53 PM ET
Draft 1oa forever & see what sticks identity. Luck out on McD is fluke
- Nighthawk


I guess they drafted character guys?
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