Why? Because he was right? This game was a media creation for the most part and it was fun in all, but at the end of the day this was a mid season game between two bad teams not making the playoffs. The crowd was fantastic and the players responded. All Torts said is he would rather have the crowd and players into it when there is something more worthwhile on the line, like a playoff series. What is wrong with that?
- jd250

Torts is an ass. That atmosphere was purely organic from the fans. Sure the JJ and Boosh had their marching orders, but the players obviously were taking extra shots at Quitter. Without such a side sorry, this team, as currently constructed, will never inspire that kind of loud passion from the fans. Torts is an ass.

He’s likely worth some other underachieving player in need of a change of scenery. Thinking players like Arthur Kaliev, like Kappo was before getting traded to Seattle. So other players who might be in need of a change of scenery are Mason MacTavish or Trevor Zegras although the Flyers would have to add more to acquire either of those centers. But I don’t think Farabee gets a 1st round pick nor a top notch player. At best he gets a player that’s underachieving as well.
- mikeyo27

Kaako is an example of a bad trade. Drury really screwed up that deal. Farabee is a young player and GMs can see what he is capable of. The production may lead to a buy low offer but the value is how far a GM would be willing to go to add him which would be something similar to what the GM thinks Farabee is. If a GM thinks he is a top 6 winger, they will be willing to pay a price that one would cost. Doesnt mean they wont try to low ball Briere and win a trade. ALl GMs value players differently. Hence why we see deals like Hall for Larsson. One GM could think Farabee could be a top line LW while another thinks hes a 3rd line LW. GMs usually taking advice from the scouts they send to look at the guy as well. They dont just look at the stat sheet and say I want this guy or I dont

Everything the Flyers do is wrong, they are a joke of a franchise, a laughing stock, never will win a cup again .. and so on and so on ...
- jd250

Wrong....believe it or not, I want them to win and win it all. I want them to be dominant, not just hard to play against. I want to expect to win every game, not wonder what trip the coach is on this time.

In my opinion, they make a lot of mistakes, and they are the same ones they keep making over and over. Briere was supposed to be a new way of thinking, and it is just more of the same old same old.Yes I want them to take some risks, but not like they did with passing Buium. I do blame the Flyers for the Gauthier situation.

If they keep repeating mistakes that they lost doing before, how can they expect a different outcome?

But at the end of the day, I am a fan...I tried to walk away this past September, but I couldn't do it. It just sucks watching other teams have success, fail, and have success again, while the Flyers just keep failing.

Cutter with 2 and OT winner

York does a lot well. He hasnt really shown it this season but he did last season. You also have to remember you are also comparing a 28 year old to a 24 year old.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I’m well aware that it’s a player in his prime verse one who’s not, I don’t think there is a path for York to be any better of a player than Sanheim. That would be a hell of a player. Hes not going to miraculously be a powerplay contributor, so he’s going to surpass Sanheim in everything else, or enough things to be viewed as a better player? Highly highly doubt that.

Cutter hits back with 2 goals! Versus a great "team" in Carolina back 2 back! This league is so topsy-turvy it hurts! 😆 🤣

Cutter hits back with 2 goals! Versus a great "team" in Carolina back 2 back! This league is so topsy-turvy it hurts! 😆 🤣
- THE EVIL WITHIN

I read today that Gauthier is a non-competitive perimeter player with serious character issues. He has played 43 career NHL games and he has 5 less goals and 6 less points this season than our 8 year term 6+M a year forward.

Cutter with 2 and OT winner
- wcorvette

That means the flyers is better than the Canes who beat the mighty🦆 6 zip!!! 🙃

I read today that Gauthier is a non-competitive perimeter player with serious character issues. He has played 43 career NHL games and he has 5 less goals and 6 less points this season than our 8 year term 6+M a year forward.
- MJL

I would love to see him cap it off w an OT point bc they don’t matter apparently

I would love to see him cap it off w an OT point bc they don’t matter apparently
- Flyfly

Gauthier scored the game winner in OT against the Canes.

Kaako is an example of a bad trade. Drury really screwed up that deal. Farabee is a young player and GMs can see what he is capable of. The production may lead to a buy low offer but the value is how far a GM would be willing to go to add him which would be something similar to what the GM thinks Farabee is. If a GM thinks he is a top 6 winger, they will be willing to pay a price that one would cost. Doesnt mean they wont try to low ball Briere and win a trade. ALl GMs value players differently. Hence why we see deals like Hall for Larsson. One GM could think Farabee could be a top line LW while another thinks hes a 3rd line LW. GMs usually taking advice from the scouts they send to look at the guy as well. They dont just look at the stat sheet and say I want this guy or I dont
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You and JD are two peas in a pod. Flyers have you hook, line and sinker. It is comical…

Gauthier scored the game winner in OT against the Canes.
- MJL

Doesn’t count!!!!

Cutter hits back with 2 goals! Versus a great "team" in Carolina back 2 back! This league is so topsy-turvy it hurts! 😆 🤣
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Ok. So what, he just can’t handle the Philly fans? At least we did something right last night. He’s an NHL player and will have good nights. He just couldn’t handle last night. F Quitter. Who cares what he did tonight?

Torts is an ass. That atmosphere was purely organic from the fans. Sure the JJ and Boosh had their marching orders, but the players obviously were taking extra shots at Quitter. Without such a side sorry, this team, as currently constructed, will never inspire that kind of loud passion from the fans. Torts is an ass.
- mikeyo27

Yes the players took shots at Quitter. Again, what is wrong with that? Quitter deserved everything he got. Torts should be commended for not fueling the narrative, and letting the players handle it.

What I find interesting that no one on this forum has mentioned, is how badly Gauthier handled the situation. How he lacked even a little compete. This has been the knock on Gauthier, he's great when things are easy, but as soon as things get tough he cowers. You all saw it firsthand on Saturday. You also saw how well Drysdale handled the moment. I told you all and will tell you all again, the Flyers down the road will be very considered lucky that Gauthier demanded a trade.

You and JD are two peas in a pod. Flyers have you hook, line and sinker. It is comical…
- Flyfly

What is wrong with you? Are you a Flyers fan? Do you want the team to succeed?

Gauthier scored the game winner in OT against the Canes.
- MJL

Insert finger in cheek and pop! Wow! Quitter scored a 3 on 3 goal.

Last 10 Flyers games.


Sanheim GF/60 3.38 GA/60 2.46 GF% 57.89% xGF% 58.07 SCA/60 22.1

York GF/60 3.35 GA/60 2.26 GF% 61.11 xGF% 60.13 SCA/60 21.65

Ristolainen GF/60 2.45 GA/60 3.49 GF%41.18 xGF% 56.58% SCA/60 23.75

For the season, Ristolainen ranks 2nd worst on the team in GA/60 and he is 3rd on the team in SCA/60 with a team worst GF%.

While it is true that Ristolainen's offensive game is improving and he is on the ice for more scoting chances. Which is what has always been his best attribute. He is still a train wreck defensively and it is demonstratively false that he is the best at killing plays in his own end. If necessary, I can provide video evidence of the poor defense that he plays.
- MJL

Not disagreeing but, it's hard to get a accurate stat with goaltending being terrible.

Wrong....believe it or not, I want them to win and win it all. I want them to be dominant, not just hard to play against. I want to expect to win every game, not wonder what trip the coach is on this time.

In my opinion, they make a lot of mistakes, and they are the same ones they keep making over and over. Briere was supposed to be a new way of thinking, and it is just more of the same old same old.Yes I want them to take some risks, but not like they did with passing Buium. I do blame the Flyers for the Gauthier situation.

If they keep repeating mistakes that they lost doing before, how can they expect a different outcome?

But at the end of the day, I am a fan...I tried to walk away this past September, but I couldn't do it. It just sucks watching other teams have success, fail, and have success again, while the Flyers just keep failing.
- TheFreak

Again, there are alot of things that happen at the draft that you and I don't know. Buium looks so far like he is going to develop into a very good defenseman. But does that mean no other player picked in that draft will not be? Was Buium the only good player available and thus Briere screwed up? The fact is there are a lot of good players in a draft and some do develop into very good NHL players and some develop into all-stars and beyond. Luchanko has shown a lot of good things also in his early development and I think he will develop into a very good NHL ceiling. Right now after the WJCs some could say it looks like Buium will be a better NHL defenseman than Lauchanko will be an NHL center. But, dude, you just know yet, its way too early. What if Luchanko develops into a top 6 center like I believe he will and Buium develops into an all star defenseman which I also believe he will. Does that make Luchanko a bad pick? Hell no!

Look at thing from this perspective. Jones has stated this is a very important draft for the Flyers. Briere and Torts have stated there is no help coming from outside the organization. Torts has also added this season is for evaluating what the Flyers have. Has any of their actionscontradicted these statements? No! When Hart left the team, did Briere try to trade or sign a goalie? No. When the team was primed to make the playoffs last season, did Briere decide not to trade arguably their best defenseman at the time in Walker? No. This off season, did Briere sign free agents or make big trades to double down and try to make the playoffs this season? No. Will the Flyers be sellers at this deadline further enabling them to pick high in this draft? Yes.

So what's the problem? What has Briere done that in any way resembles the previous regimes? Just relax. They all have said they want to build this the right way. Let's give them a chance to do so and stop assuming they will do what the previous regimes did.

Insert finger in cheek and pop! Wow! Quitter scored a 3 on 3 goal.
- jd250

He did, the Flyers have won almost half of their games after regulation. That so called non competitive perimeter player now has 5 less goals and 6 less points than the Flyers forward signed to a 8 year 6+M deal and he's a rookie who has played 43 games.

He did, the Flyers have won almost half of their games after regulation. That so called non competitive perimeter player now has 5 less goals and 6 less points than the Flyers forward signed to a 8 year 6+M deal and he's a rookie who has played 43 games.
- MJL

What a useless observation. What does Tippet have to do with Guathier? When Tippet gets hot and pots 15-20 goals in the second half of this season and ends up with 25+ goal while Gauthier hits the rookie wall that they all do and ends up with 13 goals on the season, will it matter then?

Again, there are alot of things that happen at the draft that you and I don't know. Buium looks so far like he is going to develop into a very good defenseman. But does that mean no other player picked in that draft will not be? Was Buium the only good player available and thus Briere screwed up? The fact is there are a lot of good players in a draft and some do develop into very good NHL players and some develop into all-stars and beyond. Luchanko has shown a lot of good things also in his early development and I think he will develop into a very good NHL ceiling. Right now after the WJCs some could say it looks like Buium will be a better NHL defenseman than Lauchanko will be an NHL center. But, dude, you just know yet, its way too early. What if Luchanko develops into a top 6 center like I believe he will and Buium develops into an all star defenseman which I also believe he will. Does that make Luchanko a bad pick? Hell no!

Look at thing from this perspective. Jones has stated this is a very important draft for the Flyers. Briere and Torts have stated there is no help coming from outside the organization. Torts has also added this season is for evaluating what the Flyers have. Has any of their actionscontradicted these statements? No! When Hart left the team, did Briere try to trade or sign a goalie? No. When the team was primed to make the playoffs last season, did Briere decide not to trade arguably their best defenseman at the time in Walker? No. This off season, did Briere sign free agents or make big trades to double down and try to make the playoffs this season? No. Will the Flyers be sellers at this deadline further enabling them to pick high in this draft? Yes.

So what's the problem? What has Briere done that in any way resembles the previous regimes? Just relax. They all have said they want to build this the right way. Let's give them a chance to do so and stop assuming they will do what the previous regimes did.
- jd250

Briere did sign a goalie. He signed Fedetov, an unproven goalie to a 2 year contract for 3+M a year. So you're wrong there. You're also confusing not being able to make moves with making a conscious decision not to make moves. They haven't because their own past incompetence is preventing them from doing so. They don't have the cap space to make any considerable signings. When they do, they will and it will be the same old same old. The Flyers were not primed to make the playoffs. They were realistically out of it and Briere tried to re-sign Walker. They traded him because they couldn't come to an agreement. There is no reason whatsoever to give this team any benefit of the doubt. You're telling people to stop assuming and then doing the very same thing. You're assuming they're going to do it the right way when all the signs are there that they won't. That's what you do.

What a useless observation. What does Tippet have to do with Guathier? When Tippet gets hot and pots 15-20 goals in the second half of this season and ends up with 25+ goal while Gauthier hits the rookie wall that they all do and ends up with 13 goals on the season, will it matter then?
- jd250

The comment points more to how Tippett has regressed this year versus how good of a player Gauthier is now. You just got done telling another poster to not assume something now here you are assuming that Tippett will score 15-20 goals in the 2nd half. Just more hypocrisy and you contradicting yourself

Yes the players took shots at Quitter. Again, what is wrong with that? Quitter deserved everything he got. Torts should be commended for not fueling the narrative, and letting the players handle it.

What I find interesting that no one on this forum has mentioned, is how badly Gauthier handled the situation. How he lacked even a little compete. This has been the knock on Gauthier, he's great when things are easy, but as soon as things get tough he cowers. You all saw it firsthand on Saturday. You also saw how well Drysdale handled the moment. I told you all and will tell you all again, the Flyers down the road will be very considered lucky that Gauthier demanded a trade.
- jd250

what was there to handle form JD perspective? he got traded like thousands of other players.

yes, very lucky they wasted the 5th overall pick. way to go flyers

Again, there are alot of things that happen at the draft that you and I don't know. Buium looks so far like he is going to develop into a very good defenseman. But does that mean no other player picked in that draft will not be? Was Buium the only good player available and thus Briere screwed up? The fact is there are a lot of good players in a draft and some do develop into very good NHL players and some develop into all-stars and beyond. Luchanko has shown a lot of good things also in his early development and I think he will develop into a very good NHL ceiling. Right now after the WJCs some could say it looks like Buium will be a better NHL defenseman than Lauchanko will be an NHL center. But, dude, you just know yet, its way too early. What if Luchanko develops into a top 6 center like I believe he will and Buium develops into an all star defenseman which I also believe he will. Does that make Luchanko a bad pick? Hell no!

Look at thing from this perspective. Jones has stated this is a very important draft for the Flyers. Briere and Torts have stated there is no help coming from outside the organization. Torts has also added this season is for evaluating what the Flyers have. Has any of their actionscontradicted these statements? No! When Hart left the team, did Briere try to trade or sign a goalie? No. When the team was primed to make the playoffs last season, did Briere decide not to trade arguably their best defenseman at the time in Walker? No. This off season, did Briere sign free agents or make big trades to double down and try to make the playoffs this season? No. Will the Flyers be sellers at this deadline further enabling them to pick high in this draft? Yes.

So what's the problem? What has Briere done that in any way resembles the previous regimes? Just relax. They all have said they want to build this the right way. Let's give them a chance to do so and stop assuming they will do what the previous regimes did.
- jd250

tired of hearing they are evaluating. This is Tort's 3rd season. How much more evaluating is needed for the current roster? there has been minimal, and I mean minimal improvment. Just a lot of talk and hot air buzzwords.

why not try providing some context when you're making your points. as you're not giving the reasons behind why they do the things they do.

this organization does not warrant giving them the benefit of the doubt. they really have not done anything to rebuild. towing the line.

Cutter hits back with 2 goals! Versus a great "team" in Carolina back 2 back! This league is so topsy-turvy it hurts! 😆 🤣
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Thank you Quitter for vaulting the Ducks ahead of the Flyers in the standings. Pick 6 at the moment for the original orange and black. Those new ducks colors are things of nightmares