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- NewYorkNuck

Thank you

He clearly wants out. The Canucks want him out. Would be helpful for the team if he was more open about where he went.
- NewYorkNuck

It's going to take a huge leap of faith on another GM's part to want to take his personality on. But there's always that one guy.

The Bleacher Report said the biggest winner in the Miller to NY Rangers trade rumour would have been Elias Pettersson.

But his past two seasons were excellent. I think most GMs take the big picture into account more than half-season struggles. Time will tell.

Boy, I wish GMs would stop handing out these no trade/movement clauses. That more than anything lowers the return on trades. Get rid of it in the next CBA.

#makeCBAgreatagain
- bloatedmosquito

This.

I think the minute a player requests a trade, the NMC is voided.
- bloatedmosquito

I don't believe so, once a trade is consummated, then yes, his clause is voided.

I don't believe so, once a trade is consummated, then yes, his clause is voided.
- Pacificgem

I believe it has to be agreed with the new team regarding his trade protection. They can still carry it forward to the new team if I remember correctly

I don't believe so, once a trade is consummated, then yes, his clause is voided.
- Pacificgem

But a players should not be able to request a NMC in contract negotiations only to later weaponize it in requesting a trade from the team. That gives way too much leverage to the player.

Edit: I’m not saying that’s the way it is. I’m saying it should be changed.

I believe it has to be agreed with the new team regarding his trade protection. They can still carry it forward to the new team if I remember correctly
- NewYorkNuck

That is correct

I don't believe so, once a trade is consummated, then yes, his clause is voided.
- Pacificgem

It’s up to the acquiring club to recognize it or not after the trade. Usually they’ll agree to extend it.

I believe it has to be agreed with the new team regarding his trade protection. They can still carry it forward to the new team if I remember correctly
- NewYorkNuck

Yes.

It's going to take a huge leap of faith on another GM's part to want to take his personality on. But there's always that one guy.
- Pacificgem

Nah. Many bigger douchebags than him have found new homes willing to take them.

But a players should not be able to request a NMC in contract negotiations only to later weaponize it in requesting a trade from the team. That gives way too much leverage to the player.

Edit: I’m not saying that’s the way it is. I’m saying it should be changed.
- bloatedmosquito

That’s the entire point of it though. The players want that power to have a say where they go at certain points in their careers. It’s not going away. GM’s just need to be more careful and forceful with who they give them to and the structure.

That’s the entire point of it though. The players want that power to have a say where they go at certain points in their careers. It’s not going away. GM’s just need to be more careful and forceful with who they give them to and the structure.
- TurdFergeson

Players also generally take less money in exchange for trade protection. So if GMs want to pony up even more money for players, then they can. But that would not only impact their cap situation, but also be harder to trade a player with more $$

The longer the drama continues, the less the return will be.
- VanHockeyGuy

What was the high offer?

Players also generally take less money in exchange for trade protection. So if GMs want to pony up even more money for players, then they can. But that would not only impact their cap situation, but also be harder to trade a player with more $$
- NewYorkNuck

Very good way to put it not so cut & dried.

It's going to take a huge leap of faith on another GM's part to want to take his personality on. But there's always that one guy.
- Pacificgem

Benning

What was the high offer?
- Nighthawk

They only got one didn't they?

Cam Strickland reporting the same thing as Dhaliwal and Drance. Rangers trade fell apart because of the conditions around the 1st round pick.

Then mentions...

"From what I hear is he's destined to go to Carolina"

(Cam & Stick pod)

I will always remind them of their disgusting choice of a GM. It's a civic duty.
- Marwood

Yes. Just horrible what happened to those kids. Even more horrible that Bowman had an open door with the Oilers to walk back into the league with the same job. Didn't even have to work his way back. Gross. Just absolutely putrid.

Announcement coming shortly...apparently.

And if Pouty remains stagnant, does he become even more expendable?
- Reubenkincade

If Miller gets traded soon, I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded Petey too if the right package came back.

If Miller gets traded soon, I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded Petey too if the right package came back.
- Shuswap Wap

Package Petey and Miller together

Zadorov interview, touches on Vancouver: https://rg.org/news/hocke...ver-and-thrived-in-boston

Love For Vancouver

The irony of fate: when Zadorov was growing up in Moscow, he was a Canucks fan, the team he played for last spring. When the veteran defenseman made the request to be traded from the Calgary Flames last season, he had no idea he would be traded to a divisional rival and his boyhood club.

“I was ready to sign with Calgary. I told the general manager that I wanted to stay and was ready to consider extending my contract. But no one offered us [with agent Dan Milstein] anything,” said Zadorov.

“Every other pending free agent was getting contract offers at the time, so Dan and I decided that we had to leave before the deadline.”

Ultimately, Zadorov and his agent saw it best to request a trade and head somewhere that could help Zadorov maximize his value before becoming a free agent in the summer of 2024.

But some things simply can’t be written that poetically. Zadorov ended up in Vancouver, a move that he feels profoundly changed him as a hockey player.

“Those were probably the coolest six months of my career. It's a blast to play hockey there. The fans are awesome, the city is cool, the team is cool too. The team, the coaching staff - everything was super. Head coach [Rich] Tocchet, [Daniel and Henrik] Sedins, [Adam] Foote, [Sergei] Gonchar - wherever you look, there’s a Hall of Famer,” said Zadorov regarding his admiration for the Canucks organization. “You can learn a lot from everyone. When Sergei Gonchar came in, he worked a lot with all the defensemen individually. I think those six months were a big boost for my career, I changed a lot as a player.”

Heading to Vancouver changed his view on the game, and helped him discover new aspects of his ability on the ice. Beyond his own development, Zadorov recalls the culture and fan base surrounding the Canucks as being especially memorable.
“The playoffs in Vancouver were crazy in terms of atmosphere. I remember that before, the atmosphere during the Cup in San Jose, Nashville, Vegas, Edmonton, Calgary seemed really cool to me. But what happened in Vancouver was on another level,” said Zadorov on the fans in Vancouver. “In terms of energy, in terms of volume, in terms of how the city lived hockey. During the playoffs, you try to eat at home, but, when you go out for dinner, you don’t have a single chance to pay for it yourself. Either the restaurant owners will come over right away, or someone at the next table will pay for you. The city lived for hockey, and I’ve never seen anything like it.”

When free agency came around in July 2024, Zadorov faced an intriguing decision: stay in Vancouver or test the waters to see if a big-market team would make an offer.

The Canucks remained aggressive in their approach, offering a similar contract to the one Zadorov ultimately signed with the Boston Bruins. Some things about playing in Boston simply provided too many added benefits to turn down.

“Yes, Vancouver showed interest,” he answered, confirming that he talked to about twenty teams. “And in terms of money, it was basically the same contract that I got in Boston. Vancouver didn't offend me, everything they offered was very good. There were a couple of moments in the negotiations that I didn't like - both the way they were conducted and the way the information was presented to me. But that wasn't the main thing.”

For Zadorov, there was a clear preference for playing in the United States over Canada, as is customary in the NHL. Zadorov thought about where best to raise his young family, and the attractiveness of Boston stood out much more as one of the major hubs of the United States.

“In the end, when it was time to make a decision, we weighed everything up, and a couple of factors played into the fact that it was more comfortable for our family to play in the US than in Canada,” said Zadorov. “You make a list and check off the boxes: this is more suitable here; this is more suitable there. In the end, we chose what was more relevant for hockey and more relevant for life.”

Another unexpected, yet welcomed benefit, is that playing in the Eastern Conference requires far less travel than the Pacific Division in the Western Conference.

Announcement coming shortly...apparently.
- Pacificgem

From who?

Three teams, that's good...

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