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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Today @ 12:01 PM ET
Yeah, but I think MLB needs to dial it back a little.

Seems like over the past 10 years, there's been 2-3 minnows in the World Series, and the rest of the time it's just the big market clubs.

To me, that's just a little too skewed in favour of the big market clubs (unless it was the NHL, and then it would be 100% fair).

- Atomic Wedgie

For sure its skewed for big market clubs, but we've seen plenty of smaller market teams go on quality runs.. rays, cards, royals, rockies, braves, diamondbacks.
The jays front office has just been poop lately.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Today @ 12:05 PM ET
Bullpoop. If the jays had signed Ohtani, soto and sasaki you wouldnt be in here whining about it.
Same if the leafs could build a super team and win a few cups.

- Fakepartofme

Dude speak for yourself. Do not put words into my mouth.

I wouldn't want my teams being in a league like that, wouldn't want my team to be the Dodgers.

Much happier with how the NHL works 10 times over.

I have lost a lot of interest in MLB as a whole. All the marketable players are going to the same couple teams, and mostly the Dodgers. It is boring.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Today @ 12:09 PM ET
For sure its skewed for big market clubs, but we've seen plenty of smaller market teams go on quality runs.. rays, cards, royals, rockies, braves, diamondbacks.
The jays front office has just been poop lately.

- Fakepartofme


Totally agree on Jays office defecating the bed repeatedly, I also don't put the Jays into the small market category at all - just a terrible managed team really.

One problem is that when those small market clubs go on quality runs it's often a one and done or a couple and done because the players who drastically overperformed vs their salary want the huge $'s and move on to the big players (like the Dodgers).

It's frustrating to see teams do great jobs drafting and developing players to then feel like feeder teams to the big boys is all.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Today @ 12:13 PM ET
Totally agree on Jays office defecating the bed repeatedly, I also don't put the Jays into the small market category at all - just a terrible managed team really.

One problem is that when those small market clubs go on quality runs it's often a one and done or a couple and done because the players who drastically overperformed vs their salary want the huge $'s and move on to the big players (like the Dodgers).

It's frustrating to see teams do great jobs draft and develop players to then feel like feeder teams to the big boys is all.

- Cush29


It is also a team full of players that the average MLB fan has no clue they even existed.

It is either you get the same couple teams and you get to watch the big players or you get a collection of guys on great contracts that you never knew existed. It is a lose lose for me.

I was really getting into baseball the last decade too, I am out unless it is the Jays.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Today @ 12:18 PM ET
Tampa resting Vasi tonight!!!

So, easy Tampa win
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 12:19 PM ET
It is also a team full of players that the average MLB fan has no clue they even existed.

It is either you get the same couple teams and you get to watch the big players or you get a collection of guys on great contracts that you never knew existed. It is a lose lose for me.

I was really getting into baseball the last decade too, I am out unless it is the Jays.

- Santo_44


at least its the Dodgers. Not really a problem unless they make the WS and the Jays did also. it was worse when it was the Yankees and Red sox constantly buying the best players.

its nothing really new. just a new top Dog for the time being
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Today @ 12:31 PM ET
For sure its skewed for big market clubs, but we've seen plenty of smaller market teams go on quality runs.. rays, cards, royals, rockies, braves, diamondbacks.
The jays front office has just been shit for 3 decades.

- Fakepartofme



Ftfy
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Today @ 12:31 PM ET
at least its the Dodgers. Not really a problem unless they make the WS and the Jays did also. it was worse when it was the Yankees and Red sox constantly buying the best players.

its nothing really new. just a new top Dog for the time being

- senstroll


Did the Yanks ever defer salary on one of the best players ever?

Also Santander is a Jay
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Today @ 12:33 PM ET
Santander is a Jay

Go get me Bregman and a pitcher and I am content and will watch next season

Need another big FA though, can not just be Santander
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Today @ 12:33 PM ET
They finally got somebody!
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Today @ 12:35 PM ET
They finally got somebody!
- BINGO!

Fails physical

Signs with the Dodgers for 1 year
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Today @ 12:36 PM ET
Fails physical

Signs with the Dodgers for 1 year

- Santo_44

mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Today @ 12:38 PM ET
Santander is a Jay

Go get me Bregman and a pitcher and I am content and will watch next season

Need another big FA though, can not just be Santander

- Santo_44

Alonso> Bregman
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Today @ 12:38 PM ET
Santander is a Jay

Go get me Bregman and a pitcher and I am content and will watch next season

Need another big FA though, can not just be Santander

- Santo_44

And need to re-sign Vladdy or I'm done.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 12:39 PM ET
Santander proj 2.4 war, about the same as Alonso.. but more flexible position wise.

ok sure
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 12:41 PM ET

havent seen the $$ yet, but some projections

mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Today @ 12:41 PM ET
Santander proj 2.4 war, about the same as Alonso.. but more flexible position wise.

ok sure

- senstroll

Bregman contract will look just like Springer
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Today @ 12:42 PM ET
And need to re-sign Vladdy or I'm done.
- Whipper


Yeah, they have some work to do to keep fans.

But they have the money so there is no excuse. Pay Vladdy and another big FA.

You had 2 options to kee fans engaged and supporting you....either fire sale or spend spend spend. They made their choice, do not half ass it.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 12:45 PM ET
Bregman contract will look just like Springer
- mr.sir


kinda like Santandar, 5 years... Jays have to go extra to get decent players...


Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Today @ 12:48 PM ET
kinda like Santandar, 5 years... Jays have to go extra to get decent players...
- senstroll

Credit where credit is due, though. They (finally) did a thing...
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Today @ 12:50 PM ET
Bullpoop. If the jays had signed Ohtani, soto and sasaki you wouldnt be in here whining about it.
Same if the leafs could build a super team and win a few cups.

- Fakepartofme


I have said numerous times on this site in the past that while I recognize that the Leafs could be in the top-2 spenders every year and build a team from free agency consistently - like they were doing under Pat Quinn - that is not healthy for a sport.

Talk to your friends in small markets who followed their teams through the 90s and watched their teams be farm teams for the money teams. They draft the player, grow the player, fall in love with the player and then trade him to a team that can afford him and start all over again. It grows the market in the largest and richest of cities but it doesn't grow the sport significantly outside of those areas.

Baseball is quintessentially American - the attitude of if you have the money you are better than everyone else and should be treated as such.

Don't get me wrong - if you offer me the chance to play in a baseball mecca like LA or New York compared to the average perception of Canada, I have a pretty good idea that NY with it's loud attitude and scented subways or LA and it's nice weather and beautiful fires will win out all the time.

But to the specifics of your point - I want the Leafs to win, and I do lament a little that they can't outspend other teams - but I firmly believe that the health of the sport is better for the hard cap.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 12:50 PM ET
Credit where credit is due, though. They (finally) did a thing...
- Whipper


well sure, but they had to wait for their tops targets to move off the board first.

the 1st girl they asked to the prom said no, so they are asking thier backup options to go instead
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Today @ 12:55 PM ET
well sure, but they had to wait for their tops targets to move off the board first.

the 1st girl they asked to the prom said no, so they are asking thier backup options to go instead

- senstroll

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Today @ 12:56 PM ET
Here's all you need to know:

The Blue Jays and 29 other teams have been adding areas in their stadiums so that you can do stuff other than watch the game.

- Atomic Wedgie


So like, my living room, or anywhere else where I can be found, ever.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Today @ 12:57 PM ET
kinda like Santandar, 5 years... Jays have to go extra to get decent players...
- senstroll


I always like when teams sign the guy who puts up most of his numbers against them and then wonder why he doesn't put up numbers as good as he used to.

Santander has hit more home runs against the Jays than he has against anyone else in the league - and it's not Skydome - because he only has 6 there and 2 at Sahlen field. He hits well against the Jays in Baltimore.

For the record I sort of like Santander as well, though. He compares pretty evenly to a guy like Teoscar.
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