- nyisles7

So you’re saying younger players don’t get injured?????
Dobson, Romanov, Hogberg, Barzal and Holmstrom all injured this year. Nelson, Palms and Lee have played every game.
Injuries know no age. Your theory doesn’t hold water in my opinion.
Additionally, the Islanders until this year, have had low man games lost to injuries.
- nyisles7

NYIsles, the team needs move on from the players that are consistently out with injury as it is impacting the lineup. There are older players Pullock and Pelech, that are breaking down to frequently and it is impacting the team's performance.

We all know that injuries occur in both young and old players. Moving on to younger players that can fill these roles gives the team better odds. Does it completely eliminate that the possibilty of injury. No.

If they don’t make the POs there will be changes 100%. But these can also be made after the season if they do make the POs.
Typically the trade deadline brings team draft picks and prospects because they don’t want to take away from their roster.
Going to be interesting how and when the trades are made and who goes and for what.
- nyisles7

The buyers are more desperate at the trade deadline. Get draft picks and prospects are solid acquisitions as it gives the team more options.

Draft picks and prospects can be moved at the draft for either better draft position or players.

It also, opens up monies for free agency. So would prefer the deals made now instead of then.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....jacob-fowler-ryan-leonard

Quinn Finley, LW (New York Islanders)

Finley was one of the USHL’s best players in 2022-23, but his high-end production was muted a bit as a rookie with the University of Wisconsin last year. Now, he’s firmly in the national scoring race while playing at a near 30-goal pace. Finley had one of the best one-shot releases from the 2022 NHL Draft and it has only gotten better as his hockey sense has improved. Now, he’s getting himself into better scoring lanes, but he’s also recognizing when taking a shot isn’t the best course of action and when it’s better to use his teammates. Finley’s skating is still a downside, though.

Seems like the Isles have something in Finley. Not likely to be a star, but the kind of depth that could make for a solid middle-six forward in the next 3-5 years.

NYIsles, the team needs move on from the players that are consistently out with injury as it is impacting the lineup. There are older players Pullock and Pelech, that are breaking down to frequently and it is impacting the team's performance.

We all know that injuries occur in both young and old players. Moving on to younger players that can fill these roles gives the team better odds. Does it completely eliminate that the possibilty of injury. No.
- Nfdbulldawg

Islanders this year have had a lot of. Injuries.
In the past the Isles have had minimal man games list to injury.
This year younger players have been injured more than the older players.
Again as you agreed younger players and older players get injured. Age has nothing to do with it. We can agree on this.
If you look at every teams injuries in the NHL it is a mix of young and old players.
So with your theory once a player gets old or has an injury it’s time to bring him behind the barn

The buyers are more desperate at the trade deadline. Get draft picks and prospects are solid acquisitions as it gives the team more options.

Draft picks and prospects can be moved at the draft for either better draft position or players.

It also, opens up monies for free agency. So would prefer the deals made now instead of then.
- Nfdbulldawg

I have no problem getting assets and or prospects. All are valuable in retooling and or rebuilding a team.
I don’t think there is desperation at the trade deadline or draft as far as trades. Teams have a need and look to fill it.
At the deadline teams are looking to add final pieces that will make them more competitive in the PO run. As you said typically picks and prospects come back for a desired player.
At the draft teams that failed to get to their goals will trade and retool and move nhl ready players.
Trading for what you need can come from both the trade deadline or draft.
At the draft teams can also carry 10% over the cap ( until day one of the season) so there is more cap room to play with. That said there will be an increase of 5 to 8 million dollars to the cap this year which will give teams a lot more cap space at the draft vs the deadline.
It’s going to be interesting to see how much the additional cap space effects trades at the draft and or off season. The cap increase will also affect the free agent market as players know teams have more to spend. The agents are going to have a field day.
There hasn’t been an increase in the cap like this in years.

Islanders this year have had a lot of. Injuries.
In the past the Isles have had minimal man games list to injury.
This year younger players have been injured more than the older players.
Again as you agreed younger players and older players get injured. Age has nothing to do with it. We can agree on this.
If you look at every teams injuries in the NHL it is a mix of young and old players.
So with your theory once a player gets old or has an injury it’s time to bring him behind the barn
- nyisles7

Well, that's a slight exaggeration. The older we get, the more easily we get injured. And more importantly, the older we get, the slower we are to heal. Of all people, an old fart like you should know this.

But your basic point is valid. Injuries can happen to anyone, and it's not a reason to trade someone. A better reason to trade them is your roster is old and stale and needs revamping.........and for guys who are UFAs at the end of the season, you risk losing them for nothing.

Well, that's a slight exaggeration. The older we get, the more easily we get injured. And more importantly, the older we get, the slower we are to heal. Of all people, an old fart like you should know this.

But your basic point is valid. Injuries can happen to anyone, and it's not a reason to trade someone. A better reason to trade them is your roster is old and stale and needs revamping.........and for guys who are UFAs at the end of the season, you risk losing them for nothing.
- JohnScammo

Once you hit 55 you’re (frank)ed!

We should have a young vibrant roster like Buffalo

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Well, that's a slight exaggeration. The older we get, the more easily we get injured. And more importantly, the older we get, the slower we are to heal. Of all people, an old fart like you should know this.

But your basic point is valid. Injuries can happen to anyone, and it's not a reason to trade someone. A better reason to trade them is your roster is old and stale and needs revamping.........and for guys who are UFAs at the end of the season, you risk losing them for nothing.
- JohnScammo

If the Islanders can be a legit Cup team with vets, I'm all for it. This current roster has not shown they can be a legit Cup threat. The two ECF teams had a different roster and coach and were younger in key spots and did not have the same millage as the current team. Islanders have a couple of reasons to want to re-tool as you mentioned John.

Well I would get rid of all 3. They seem to be the brunt of every problem on this team.
Trade them and the Cup is ours!
Avg age of NHL teams is about 29 years old and the older teams typically are in the POs and fair better in the POs. Edmonton is the oldest team in the league at 30.8 avg age and Buffalo the youngest at 25.5. Florida Panthers 29 avg age and the Islanders are 29.4 avg age.
As far as trading Lee, Nelson and Palms.
If the Isles are out of the PO picture than it’s time to make moves. Although I want moves made that bring back pieces that make sense and build with the pieces that are here. Namely Barzal, Horvat, Dobson, Romy, Holmstrom etc.
- nyisles7

You obviously know that's a dishonest summary of what Ses and others are arguing, yet you post a version of it nearly every day. Part of me wonders why, but the rest of me admires your commitment to the bit

You obviously know that's a dishonest summary of what Ses and others are arguing, yet you post a version of it nearly every day. Part of me wonders why, but the rest of me admires your commitment to the bit
- UIF

Thank you.
Quite honestly I could say it’s the 3 players mentioned, the GM, Bridgeport and its coaches.
The scouts, player development etc.
Everything sucks and we were going to suck ever since Lou got here. Do you remember the summer of shat signings and trades? Is Lee still in the NHl? I mean the guy was worthless last year. Couldn’t skate, a 4th liner, terrible contract blah blah blah.
The same garbage is still being written about the team:
That’s why I keep up my “Bit” as you call it.
Someone has to have a positive thing to say once in a while.

Once you hit 55 your (frank)ed!

We should have a young vibrant roster like Buffalo

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- nyisles7

You obviously know that's a dishonest summary of what Ses and others are arguing, yet you post a version of it nearly every day. Part of me wonders why, but the rest of me admires your commitment to the bit
- UIF

- JohnScammo

Call it a “Bit’ but,
I’ve been reading about Scott Perunovich who Lou picked up for a conditional 5th rounder.
Kid seems to have the tools. Hopefully a new home can bring out the best of him.
Like Tony D it seems like another low risk pickup that can wind up being a steal.

Call it a “Bit’ but,
I’ve been reading about Scott Perunovich who Lou picked up for a conditional 5th rounder.
Kid seems to have the tools. Hopefully a new home can bring out the best of him.
Like Tony D it seems like another low risk pickup that can wind up being a steal.
- nyisles7

Lou is going for it. 83 years old and he’s still fighting for that 8th seed. Obviously we will know more as the deadline approaches, but it certainly looks like he’s all in for that playoff run.

Lou is going for it. 83 years old and he’s still fighting for that 8th seed. Obviously we will know more as the deadline approaches, but it certainly looks like he’s all in for that playoff run.
- kindlyrick

I don't know if Deangelo and Perunovich are as much "going for it" as they are Lou trying to replace two injured top four defenseman with functional NHL'ers. Cholowski has been OK but doesn't move the needle a ton and there really isn't another reasonable option after that. Bolduc and Hutton are garbage.

If we see Lou go out and make an actual impactful move then he's definitely going for it, but until then I think he's just plugging holes. I like the Perunovich move a lot, I think there's good value there and the potential for him to shine. I have my doubts about Deangelo, on and off the ice, but he does have some talent so I'm willing to see how that one pans out.

I don't know if Deangelo and Perunovich are as much "going for it" as they are Lou trying to replace two injured top four defenseman with functional NHL'ers. Cholowski has been OK but doesn't move the needle a ton and there really isn't another reasonable option after that. Bolduc and Hutton are garbage.

If we see Lou go out and make an actual impactful move then he's definitely going for it, but until then I think he's just plugging holes. I like the Perunovich move a lot, I think there's good value there and the potential for him to shine. I have my doubts about Deangelo, on and off the ice, but he does have some talent so I'm willing to see how that one pans out.
- eichiefs9

Totally hear you. I just meant adding those two on D are obviously to replace injuries, and fill voids on the PP (at little to no cost) is not giving up on the season. Both players are intriguing and add value. The million dollar question is how long do you give this team a shot at sneaking in the 8th seed, or draw the line in the sand and fish or cut bait. Lou’s moves tell me he’s not in sell mode.

Lou is going for it. 83 years old and he’s still fighting for that 8th seed. Obviously we will know more as the deadline approaches, but it certainly looks like he’s all in for that playoff run.
- kindlyrick

Is he supposed to throw his hands up and say, ok we have all these injuries (frank) it let’s not try to make the Po’s.?
I give him credit for trying to fill some holes without depleting the future and try to make the PO’s. Gotta win games and give your fans a reason to come to the Arena.
Hes not gonna be in sell mode until they are out.

You obviously know that's a dishonest summary of what Ses and others are arguing, yet you post a version of it nearly every day. Part of me wonders why, but the rest of me admires your commitment to the bit
- UIF

UIF looking out for me and other posters.

Is he supposed to throw his hands up and say, ok we have all these injuries (frank) it let’s not try to make the Po’s.?
I give him credit for trying to fill some holes without depleting the future and try to make the PO’s. Gotta win games and give your fans a reason to come to the Arena.
Hes not gonna be in sell mode until they are out.
- nyisles7

Waiting till the 23rd hour loses you leverage. Everyone knows they’ll wanna move Nelson and Palmieri etc. Yes teams want to win in order to keep fans coming. The isles are in an interesting predicament. I think it comes down to different schools of thought. Lou is old school and going down with the ship. I respect it but I don’t agree with it. Not this time. Pretending at this point is inauthentic and shortsighted. Yes it’s about dollars always, but the answer here is use your assets to continue building for a better result. “Believing” in this group is a lateral move into continued mediocrity.

- nyisles7

Helluva pass by Nellly

Terrible icing call but once again Mayfield leaves his post to chase a forward up to the blueline

Dang Holmy