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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Yesterday @ 4:30 PM ET
Ruebs is a smart poster.

The fighter Florian Xhekaj is not the main piece, he is the third part of the trade. The first piece is the first round RHD, the second piece is the RFA third line center, then the fighter.

If teams were trading pieces like Schneider a deal would have been done already. I think you are going to be very disappointed when you see the return for either player.

I think Princess also has a 10 mil signing bonus coming up this summer. What GM is dumb enough to pay 21.6 mil for a player on pace for 57 points. There is one, but unfortunarely he is the GM for the Canucks.

- VANTEL

Terrible return, keep Petey and do what we can to help him figure it out. Buffalo fans willing to spend Cozens + Byram + small add or Cozens + Power is a much better deal for us now and in the long run.

EDIT: You're also ignoring the fact that i was saying KK + Morrow + 1st for Miller, not EP.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Yesterday @ 4:33 PM ET
Nice cartridge good for you. Never heard the old JVC tables myself glad you are happy with the setup.
- LordHumungous


They're actually pretty good with some plinth dampening. I'm running it through a Moon 110lp v2. Into a tank of a Denon PMA 880 which is never gonna leave my main listening setup. They just don't make them like that anymore and they're not easy to find.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Yesterday @ 4:49 PM ET
Terrible return, keep Petey and do what we can to help him figure it out. Buffalo fans willing to spend Cozens + Byram + small add or Cozens + Power is a much better deal for us now and in the long run.

EDIT: You're also ignoring the fact that i was saying KK + Morrow + 1st for Miller, not EP.

- Retinalz


KK is a bad contract. Morrow has not proven anything yet. The first round pick will be close to a second round pick. Jake Evans has exactly the same amount of points as KK.

Cozens has one more point than Evans and KK, his contract is 7 mil per . Byram has not played more than 55 games in 6 years and wants a big pay raise. The Buffalo deal is terrible. It is jumping out of the pot and into the fire.

Habs deal is much better. Opens up a ton of cap and gives you players for the future. Next years D should have D Petey and Willander on it, so trading EP for two prospects a third line center and cap space is a lot better.

You can find a pretty decent Dman for 11.6 mil in free agency or even go the Blues route and offer sheet a center or Dman or both.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Yesterday @ 4:56 PM ET
KK is a bad contract. Morrow has not proven anything yet. The first round pick will be close to a second round pick. Jake Evans has exactly the same amount of points as KK.

Cozens has one more point than Evans and KK, his contract is 7 mil per . Byram has not played more than 55 games in 6 years and wants a big pay raise. The Buffalo deal is terrible. It is jumping out of the pot and into the fire.

Habs deal is much better. Opens up a ton of cap and gives you players for the future. Next years D should have D Petey and Willander on it, so trading EP for two prospects a third line center and cap space is a lot better.

You can find a pretty decent Dman for 11.6 mil in free agency or even go the Blues route and offer sheet a center or Dman or both.

- VANTEL


Jesus....look what the cat dragged in.

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Yesterday @ 4:57 PM ET
KK is a bad contract. Morrow has not proven anything yet. The first round pick will be close to a second round pick. Jake Evans has exactly the same amount of points as KK.

Cozens has one more point than Evans and KK, his contract is 7 mil per . Byram has not played more than 55 games in 6 years and wants a big pay raise. The Buffalo deal is terrible. It is jumping out of the pot and into the fire.

Habs deal is much better. Opens up a ton of cap and gives you players for the future. Next years D should have D Petey and Willander on it, so trading EP for two prospects a third line center and cap space is a lot better.

You can find a pretty decent Dman for 11.6 mil in free agency or even go the Blues route and offer sheet a center or Dman or both.

- VANTEL

You don't seem to understand anything I am saying and just spouting nonsense. i am talking about a MILLER trade, NOT a Pettersson. Understand that first.

Second, KK contract aint great, but Evans is equivalent player and may ask for the same or more, so that is literally a wash. Mailloux and Reinbacher haven't proven anything either. So that point makes no sense about Morrow.

Third, Byram played 73 games last season and hasn't missed a game this season, so again your not making any valid points.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Yesterday @ 5:03 PM ET
You don't seem to understand anything I am saying and just spouting nonsense. i am talking about a MILLER trade, NOT a Pettersson. Understand that first.

Second, KK contract aint great, but Evans is equivalent player and may ask for the same or more, so that is literally a wash. Mailloux and Reinbacher haven't proven anything either. So that point makes no sense about Morrow.

Third, Byram played 73 games last season and hasn't missed a game this season, so again your not making any valid points.

- Retinalz


I doubt Car or Buf have interest in JTM.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Yesterday @ 5:05 PM ET
@sportsnetmurph
Sounds like the most recent trigger for the rift in the room happened as a result of the fans chanting JT Miller on several occasions, this season. Petterson had a hard time dealing with the lack of respect from the fans.

- Reubenkincade



Bravo.

Scary thing is, with these two, the above is entirely plausible.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Yesterday @ 5:11 PM ET
I doubt Car or Buf have interest in JTM.
- VANTEL

Carolina and NYR are the main two teams that have been reported to be in on JTM. Buffalo has been reported to have shown interest in EP.

Cozens + Byram + or Cozens + Power is a much better deal than Evans + Mailloux + some dumb fighter for EP
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Yesterday @ 5:14 PM ET
@DonnieandDhali
"I don't think Jim Rutherford does anything without intent.."

@JShannonhl on Jim Rutherford's interview with Gary Mason and why he would make these comments.



John Shannon goes on to say he thinks Jim Rutherford has something in mind he wants to occur, he's a calculated man. He didn't just do that to spill the beans.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Yesterday @ 5:15 PM ET
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Yesterday @ 5:16 PM ET
@DonnieandDhali
"I don't think Jim Rutherford does anything without intent.."

@JShannonhl on Jim Rutherford's interview with Gary Mason and why he would make these comments.



John Shannon goes on to say he thinks Jim Rutherford has something in mind he wants to occur, he's a calculated man. He didn't just do that to spill the beans.

- Pacificgem


100 percent. The guy knows what he's doing. He even stated in his follow up everyone already knows this, just no one was saying it directly. Doesn't impact the team, doesn't impact a trade.

If anything it gets all this poop out in the air so maybe the players don't have to pretend like everything is fine and can just (frank)ing play
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Yesterday @ 5:20 PM ET
Aquilini traded yet?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Yesterday @ 5:28 PM ET
Aquilini traded yet?
- A_SteamingLombardi



K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Yesterday @ 5:31 PM ET
Aquilini traded yet?
- A_SteamingLombardi


Probably have to add a sweetener.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Yesterday @ 5:33 PM ET
Carolina and NYR are the main two teams that have been reported to be in on JTM. Buffalo has been reported to have shown interest in EP.

Cozens + Byram + or Cozens + Power is a much better deal than Evans + Mailloux + some dumb fighter for EP

- Retinalz


It is really not, You go from one bad contract to handcuffing yourself even more. Soon as you mention Cozens the offer should be off the table.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Yesterday @ 5:38 PM ET
Jesus....look what the cat dragged in.
- Load Management

Thundachunk and Vantel make their return.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Yesterday @ 5:39 PM ET
It is really not, You go from one bad contract to handcuffing yourself even more. Soon as you mention Cozens the offer should be off the table.
- VANTEL

I think people feel that once Cozens gets out of Buffalo he’s going to explode like Reinhart or Eichel. Could happen but not as likely. If you can get him on the cheap would be a good investment, but Pete should get you more than a chance.
Also, welcome back.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Yesterday @ 5:48 PM ET
I think people feel that once Cozens gets out of Buffalo he’s going to explode like Reinhart or Eichel. Could happen but not as likely. If you can get him on the cheap would be a good investment, but Pete should get you more than a chance.
Also, welcome back.

- K-man25


DC is not cheap though. He is 7 mil per. His contract is worse than KK and Evans. All three have around 10 goals 25 points. That is around Pius Sutter numbers who is paid almost the same as Evans. No need for KK or Cozens.

We will see how long the stay is but thanks.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Yesterday @ 5:56 PM ET
They're actually pretty good with some plinth dampening. I'm running it through a Moon 110lp v2. Into a tank of a Denon PMA 880 which is never gonna leave my main listening setup. They just don't make them like that anymore and they're not easy to find.
- Load Management

Nice. Some good pieces you have here, my second system revolves around an all-Denon stack with the PMA2000ivr. Plus Denon CD player and tuner. A beast of a piece and just love the sound of the PMA-2000ivr. The Simaudio 110 another excellent piece. Main system in the downstairs listening room here is another beast altogether lol...topic for another day.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Yesterday @ 5:56 PM ET
Thundachunk and Vantel make their return.

- Shuswap Wap

Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Yesterday @ 5:58 PM ET
It is really not, You go from one bad contract to handcuffing yourself even more. Soon as you mention Cozens the offer should be off the table.
- VANTEL

I agree 100%, Cozens has been mediocre his whole career, save one season. If people are complaining about Petey they’d lose their shit after a month of watching Cozens at 7 million dollars.

Now, if you add in Power and a prospect or a pick. It’s much easier to stomach.

If they frame it like Powers is the main piece, a young 6’6” first overall pick, you could sell that.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Yesterday @ 5:59 PM ET
Nick Kypreos also says he still believes there's a package out there with Buffalo for EP116 and Dylan Cousins.

"There's something there"
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Yesterday @ 6:00 PM ET
DC is not cheap though. He is 7 mil per. His contract is worse than KK and Evans. All three have around 10 goals 25 points. That is around Pius Sutter numbers who is paid almost the same as Evans. No need for KK or Cozens.

We will see how long the stay is but thanks.

- VANTEL


I knew you'd be back.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Yesterday @ 6:05 PM ET
I agree 100%, Cozens has been mediocre his whole career, save one season. If people are complaining about Petey they’d lose their shit after a month of watching Cozens at 7 million dollars.

Now, if you add in Power and a prospect or a pick. It’s much easier to stomach.

- Pacificgem


You aren't getting a 1C back for Petey. Cozens is 23, a bigger body, and has potential. He's a 2C with 1C upside. Getting that with Power – a legit top 4 and potential top 2 dman – is the get here.

If they add Quinn or a pick, that's likely the best package to address what the Canucks need.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Yesterday @ 6:10 PM ET
I agree 100%, Cozens has been mediocre his whole career, save one season. If people are complaining about Petey they’d lose their shit after a month of watching Cozens at 7 million dollars.

Now, if you add in Power and a prospect or a pick. It’s much easier to stomach.

- Pacificgem


Byram and Powers would be fine but keep Cozens.

I heard a unverified rumor yesterday that JR did his speech yesterday to expose FA. I heard for a while now JR wants to rebuild but can't get FA to agree, so he made it public about the feud.

It makes perfect sense to go that route. You have 3 or 4 good prospects like Willander and EP25. Keep an eye on Alriksson next year or the following one. Likker is probably 2 years away ( if you were trading a prospect he is the one I would move).

I think Hughes in two years will opt to play with his brothers ( gut feeling) and win a cup in NJ.

So my opinion is hell yeah rebuild, even more so with all the noise around the team.

I do give credit to JTM for having the balls to call out EP40 and the Canucks. Jay Beagle did not like Petey also.
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