MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Oh stop the BS already with Torts. Look, the system Torts has deployed for this team is an aggressive forecheck, aggressive step up (check forward) in the nuetral zone to create turnovers, and a protect the house (straight lines on either side of the net from the backwall to the top of each circle and then a diagonal to the midpoint on the blue line) scheme in the d-zone, which attempts to keep pucks to the outside while blocking passing and shooting lanes. The only problem I have with this approach is it sometimes leads to the Flyers getting pinned in their own zone for minutes at a time which eventually could lead to breakdowns defensively due to tired players. So it's critical in this system that the wingers are aggressive when they have the chance break up a play and chip the puck out of the d-zone. Carolina deploys a very aggressive d-zone scheme for example. The Flyers are more passive but still there is room for smart aggressive play. I often notice Michkov goes to a spot and stops well short of pressuring the puck, not just on this play, but all the time. It's very hard for a player that is stationary to get his feet moving again quickly and react to a play. In this case Michkov with more hunger for the puck could have broke up that play, and if he was not stationary would not have had to dive for a puck when just by taking 1 or 2 strides more he would have got that lose puck before it was recovered by the Devils.
I am not here to pick on Michkov, he is a 20 year old kid. Instead my only goal is to explain why I think Michkov is not playing big minutes in the 3rd period when the Flyers are tied or leading. Michkov played less than 10 minutes the game before when the Flyers were leading in the 3rd. Last night Michkov played 14:31 with the Flyers down big. - jd250
You have zero clue how the Flyers play compared to the rest of the league. Nor do you have any clue on how Tortorella is handling Michkov.
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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That letter flat out pissed me off. - MBFlyerfan
Why does it piss you off? Because the Flyers after only 19 months with the new leadership in place, and after over a decade of front office imcompetence, are not yet the top team in the league? Their goal is to build a great team, why not give them the chance to do so? |
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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Moscow, ID Joined: 06.07.2007
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I go back and forth. Do the Flyers and Hilferty really believe that or is it just a marketing ploy? The other question I have is are the season ticket holders really that stupid? - MJL
They 3 Amigos IMO 100% think they are the smartest in the room and their way will produce results. Hilferty is just a fan boy fool.
Season ticket holders are without a doubt not the brightest. They still are drawing 18k so that explains a lot. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Why does it piss you off? Because the Flyers after only 19 months with the new leadership in place, and after over a decade of front office impotentance, are not yet the top team in the league? Their goal is to build a great team, why not give them the chance to do so? - jd250
Because they're gaslighting Flyers fans
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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Moscow, ID Joined: 06.07.2007
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Why does it piss you off? Because the Flyers after only 19 months with the new leadership in place, and after over a decade of front office imcompetence, are not yet the top team in the league? Their goal is to build a great team, why not give them the chance to do so? - jd250
You make the days go by fast with you continued Flyer's support.
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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You have zero clue how the Flyers play compared to the rest of the league. Nor do you have any clue on how Tortorella is handling Michkov. - MJL
I have more clue in a my little pinky finger nail than you will ever accumulate in your entire lifetime. I watch how Michkov plays in all 3 zones and frankly I have not been happy with his play for well over a month. He has a lot to learn about being a professional and a good NHL hockey player. He is nowhere close right now and I don't blame Torts for that. In fact I don't blame anyone for that. The kid needs to develop and its going to take time, more time than apparently you and others on this forum are willing to give.
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Because they're gaslighting Flyers fans - MJL
How? |
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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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Why does it piss you off? Because the Flyers after only 19 months with the new leadership in place, and after over a decade of front office imcompetence, are not yet the top team in the league? Their goal is to build a great team, why not give them the chance to do so? - jd250
Are the following players great?
Nick "The Shot Blocker" Seeler
Ryan "Stonehedge/Stone Hands" Poehling
The Room™
Garrett "The Granite" Hathaway
Erik "At least I am not that Gustafsson guy" Johnson
Marc "I am not a toilet" Stahl
These are all players that gmdb extended and or signed or refuses to traded
The builder of this great team said the way to acquire elite talent is through the draft -- you do not find elite talent in the picking in the teens you get players like The Room™ and Hugh Jessimons
You are an utter fool for believing everything they tell you |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I have more clue in a my little pinky finger nail than you will ever accumulate in your entire lifetime. I watch how Michkov plays in all 3 zones and frankly I have not been happy with his play for well over a month. He has a lot to learn about being a professional and a good NHL hockey player. He is nowhere close right now and I don't blame Torts for that. In fact I don't blame anyone for that. The kid needs to develop and its going to take time, more time than apparently you and others on this forum are willing to give. - jd250
You have zero knowledge of hockey systems or anything in hockey for that matter. The language you used in your previous post is invented along with buzzwords that you pick up from Tortorella that you parrot, such as checking forward. Tortorella has turned Michkov in a very short time from an aggressive, free wheeling attack offensive player into a cautious non aggressive safe player in the mold that Tortorella wants him to be. To use one of your pet lines. Anyone who watches him play can see it. |
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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Moscow, ID Joined: 06.07.2007
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You have zero knowledge of hockey systems or anything in hockey for that matter. The language you used in your previous post is invented along with buzzwords that you pick up from Tortorella that you parrot, such as checking forward. Tortorella has turned Michkov in a very short time from an aggressive, free wheeling attack offensive player into a cautious non aggressive safe player in the mold that Tortorella wants him to be. To use one of your pet lines. Anyone who watches him play can see it. - MJL
He should probably watch the tutorials that are readily available to educate himself. |
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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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He should probably watch the tutorials that are readily available to educate himself. - furio16
He needs to watch some Peter Puck videos |
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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Moscow, ID Joined: 06.07.2007
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He needs to watch some Peter Puck videos - corduroy
He is just a dedicated blind Flyers fan. There are worse things in life.
Worst era of Flyers hockey we are witnessing. |
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Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Wyomissing, PA Joined: 06.23.2017
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He needs to watch some Peter Puck videos - corduroy
Love those vids!!!
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Not sure. If a healthy scratch then another questionable decision. - furio16
Zamula (upper body) is not expected back in the lineup versus the Devils on Wednesday, per NHL.com.
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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He should probably watch the tutorials that are readily available to educate himself. - furio16
So tell me genious, what did I post about how the Flyers play that was not 100% accurate. Also, I stated Michkov is playing passive and very poor defensively. Am I wrong? The only thing I think we disagree on is I don't blame Torts for what is going on with Michkov. |
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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He is just a dedicated blind Flyers fan. There are worse things in life.
Worst era of Flyers hockey we are witnessing. - furio16
You apparently have not witnessed much Flyers hockey. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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So tell me genious, what did I post about how the Flyers play that was not 100% accurate. Also, I stated Michkov is playing passive and very poor defensively. Am I wrong? The only thing I think we disagree on is I don't blame Torts for what is going on with Michkov. - jd250
All of it was invented. The rest about Michkov is just denial on your part.
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Briere
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.02.2011
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Why does it piss you off? Because the Flyers after only 19 months with the new leadership in place, and after over a decade of front office imcompetence, are not yet the top team in the league? Their goal is to build a great team, why not give them the chance to do so? - jd250
as a long time but now ex-sth, i'll tell you why. they haven't been good for a long time. they just raised sth prices a couple seasons ago and now they're raising them again on an already very expensive and mediocre at best product. what have they done to deserve a price increase?
the other issue is you cant unload your seats for anywhere near face value for the games you cant go to. if your seats and parking pass (don't get me started on that it's another scam). You're buying high and then selling low. It's a fool's game.
if i was still a sth, and i am ecstatic i am not, i would be livid to get stuck with another price increase.
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Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Wyomissing, PA Joined: 06.23.2017
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So tell me genious, what did I post about how the Flyers play that was not 100% accurate. Also, I stated Michkov is playing passive and very poor defensively. Am I wrong? The only thing I think we disagree on is I don't blame Torts for what is going on with Michkov. - jd250
might want to fix the bolded part before calling somebody else a "genious"
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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That loss was just what was needed, remove all doubt that they need to sell. I want zero reason that DB would give this team a shot because they’re close and the return would not be enough. That is the one thing that could be different from last season, that team was a surprise and had some cohesion. This team is just a bunch of parts, look no further than the PP (though Rocky seems clueless). Find the teams who think they have underachieved this season, who look like they can get in, get their first and hope they collapse down the stretch. |
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SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 12.30.2023
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Danny shows his incompetence everyday by continuing to employ Rocky. An utter disgrace this guy is still an NHL coach for the Flyers. - furio16
Agree, i d9nt understand how he is not fired yet.
It's my only problem with danny |
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SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 12.30.2023
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Did you see the letter sent out to the season ticket holders for the price raise by Hilferty? He says the Flyers "are building something special" - MJL
I dont want to hear ppl cry about tickets, i wish I lived in Philadelphia where I could afford season tickets, but I live in Toronto and they raise up tickets prices every year
25 years ago it used to cost me 180 a ticket for the seats I choose now the same seats are over 400 a ticket and they are not great seats keep that in mind |
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Briere
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.02.2011
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I dont want to hear ppl cry about tickets, i wish I lived in Philadelphia where I could afford season tickets, but I live in Toronto and they raise up tickets prices every year
25 years ago it used to cost me 180 a ticket for the seats I choose now the same seats are over 400 a ticket - SlNlSTER
See my post upthread. It’s season ticket holders that take the brunt of these increases. If you’re going to buy one or two games a year its not worth getting upset about increases plus when the flyers are as mediocre as they are now you can get tickets below face value on stub hub. Season ticket holders don't have thar option
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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That loss was just what was needed, remove all doubt that they need to sell. I want zero reason that DB would give this team a shot because they’re close and the return would not be enough. That is the one thing that could be different from last season, that team was a surprise and had some cohesion. This team is just a bunch of parts, look no further than the PP (though Rocky seems clueless). Find the teams who think they have underachieved this season, who look like they can get in, get their first and hope they collapse down the stretch. - wcorvette
They don't have a chance to make the playoffs. They're not close and haven't been for a while.
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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Moscow, ID Joined: 06.07.2007
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So tell me genious, what did I post about how the Flyers play that was not 100% accurate. Also, I stated Michkov is playing passive and very poor defensively. Am I wrong? The only thing I think we disagree on is I don't blame Torts for what is going on with Michkov. - jd250
Nothing you ever post is 100% accurate.
Flyers are not aggressive. They play a sit back boring brand of hockey. They play not to win. Torts coaches losing hockey.
The coach is mainly to blame for the play of MM. He has somewhat neutered him. He doesn’t play him to his strengths. He is much diff player today when compared to Oct/Nov. Stop trying to make him what he isn’t and never will be. Build him to what he does best.
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