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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 12:00 PM ET
It's not only a lack of hockey knowledge. It's a lack of reading comprehension and common sense. Are there only 10 games left in the season? LOL.
Your last statement is not correct. They're not in the playoff hunt as I just simply and plainly pointed out to you. You can't understand it. They have a 7% chance of making the playoffs

- MJL

What will the playoff odds be if the Flyers go on a 7-3 run?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Yesterday @ 12:01 PM ET
might want to fix the bolded part before calling somebody else a "genious"
- Flyfly


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Yesterday @ 12:07 PM ET
What will the playoff odds be if the Flyers go on a 7-3 run?
- jd250


Doesn't matter. They have to play at a .600 points percentage or better just to have a chance. Not over 10 games but over 30 games. This is more evidence of the fantasy world you live in. Even when something is explained to you in clear language, you can't comprehend it.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 12:11 PM ET
Doesn't matter. They have to play at a .600 points percentage or better just to have a chance. Not over 10 games but over 30 games. This is more evidence of the fantasy world you live in. Even when something is explained to you in clear language, you can't comprehend it.
- MJL

So the answer is you don't know. The other thing you are don't understand is how the other teams around them perform. I agree the Flyers have a low chance of making the playoffs, I am not arguing that. All I am saying is if the Flyers go on a run their chances improve significantly, which is easily correct.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Yesterday @ 12:12 PM ET
Regarding the letter, I have zero doubt management truly believes they are building a contender and doing it the right way. Like George Costanza says, it’s not a lie if you believe it.

Which makes it all the more entertaining or frightening depending on what you want to get out of this. They believe they are on the path, and Hilferty in particular is very amusing as he brought a corporate zero accountability triumvirate structure and applying it to hockey.

- StepfordSam

That letter might have been the first big PR misstep from this group. Backlash must have been pretty bad that they sent out their two mouthpieces on the same day to say the rebuild will be over in 18 months.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Yesterday @ 12:14 PM ET
So the answer is you don't know. The other thing you are don't understand is how the other teams around them perform. I agree the Flyers have a low chance of making the playoffs, I am not arguing that. All I am saying is if the Flyers go on a run their chances improve significantly, which is easily correct.
- jd250


Yep, clearly I don't understand. It's just fiction that they have a 7% chance if making the playoffs. Maybe they need to use your method. Things would look so much better. Tortorella would be the hands down favorite for the Jack Adams.
No, you've been saying the Flyera are in the playoff race. They arent
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Yesterday @ 12:14 PM ET
Sure he does he has the ability to fire the whole coaching staff if he wanted 2.

What makes u think danny can't wile other hockey gm can

- SlNlSTER

I don’t think Danny is all that bright. However, you can't be this dumb to see you need a new PP coach.

Either he is incompetent or doesn’t have the authority to make a change. I do not see any other possibility.

So based on what you said it is incompetence.

There is no way he can fire Torts without the buy in from Jones and Hilf.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 12:17 PM ET
Doesn't matter. They have to play at a .600 points percentage or better just to have a chance. Not over 10 games but over 30 games. This is more evidence of the fantasy world you live in. Even when something is explained to you in clear language, you can't comprehend it.
- MJL

So now I will embarrass you. Right now the Flyers are projected to finish with 83 points, and that gives them a 7% chance of making the playoffs. If they improve this by only 2 points to 85 points, they double their playoff odds to 14%. If they improve further to project to 90 points, they improve their odds to 47% which by definition is a playoff bubble team. If the Flyers go on a 7-3 run they would then project to finish with 88 points, which gives them a 33% playoff chance. So Suck on that!
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Yesterday @ 12:17 PM ET
That letter might have been the first big PR misstep from this group. Backlash must have been pretty bad that they sent out their two mouthpieces on the same day to say the rebuild will be over in 18 months.
- psuhockey

What did I miss? Who said what?
SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Yesterday @ 12:19 PM ET
I don’t think Danny is all that bright. However, you can't be this dumb to see you need a new PP coach.

Either he is incompetent or doesn’t have the authority to make a change. I do not see any other possibility.

So based on what you said it is incompetence.

There is no way he can fire Torts without the buy in from Jones and Hilf.

- furio16


Well that's a different conversation, personally most gm only get to bring there own guy in once and I like to think danny is waiting to pull out the ace on his sleeve or he is incompetent
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Yesterday @ 12:22 PM ET
Well that's a different conversation, personally most gm only get to bring there own guy in once and I like to think danny is waiting to pull out the ace on his sleeve or he is incompetent
- SlNlSTER

You believe he can fire the coaches. Based on that premise Danny is incompetent to keep Rocky around.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 12:22 PM ET
Sure he does he has the ability to fire the whole coaching staff if he wanted 2.

What makes u think danny can't wile other hockey gm can

- SlNlSTER

This stems from a stupid notion that Torts runs the entire organization and DB is just his puppet. And people say I live in fantasy land.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Yesterday @ 12:24 PM ET
All I am saying is its too early to judge them as liars, frauds and incompetent leaders. I think we need to see how this off season goes before we know what they are.
- jd250


What makes you think this off season will be any different than the last two?
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Yesterday @ 12:25 PM ET
What did I miss? Who said what?
- furio16

Anthony DiMarco and Anthony SanFilippo in two separate articles on the same day mentioned an 18 month timeline. SanFilippo article was about the ticket increases and DiMarco was about the deadline.

Not a coincidence that was put out there right after the ticket increases came out.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Yesterday @ 12:26 PM ET
This one I agreed 100% on ... and I posted it last night during the game. The Flyers power play is tragically comical right now. Rocky may be a good coach and good guy, but the Flyers need a new voice there. And I think that will happen this off season. The fact that the Flyers have Briere, LeClair and Sharpe meeting with Rocky monthly about the PP and hearing the tone in Tort's voice when he is asked about it, I think the writing is on the wall already.
- jd250


They had leclair and sharp employed since June of 23 -- has the PP gotten any better?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Yesterday @ 12:27 PM ET
Teams are always interested in improving defensive depth going into the playoffs. GMs will tell you to make a serious cup run you need to be 10 defenseman deep at least. Seeler is a good veteran defenseman that is pretty cheap. The Flyers can move him any time they want.
- jd250


They do not want to though -- that is the problem
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Yesterday @ 12:28 PM ET
Anthony DiMarco and Anthony SanFilippo in two separate articles on the same day mentioned an 18 month timeline. SanFilippo article was about the ticket increases and DiMarco was about the deadline.

Not a coincidence that was put out there right after the ticket increases came out.

- psuhockey

Are you saying they were feed that timeline by someone in the organization!!! 18 months is freaking hysterical.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 12:29 PM ET
You believe he can fire the coaches. Based on that premise Danny is incompetent to keep Rocky around.
- furio16

I want to point out the PP has been bad for several years now, before Rocky joined the coaching staff. It has not improved I grant you that. But its clear Briere took steps, against Tort's wishes I suspect, to bring in other voices this season. Given the PP still has not improved, I would think Rocky will be replaced in the off season. If not, then I agree it makes no sense.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Yesterday @ 12:29 PM ET
Sure he does he has the ability to fire the whole coaching staff if he wanted 2.

What makes u think danny can't wile other hockey gm can

- SlNlSTER


What other team employs a triumvirate to run hockey ops?
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Yesterday @ 12:30 PM ET
This stems from a stupid notion that Torts runs the entire organization and DB is just his puppet. And people say I live in fantasy land.
- jd250

Than give me 1 valid reason why Rocky still has a job running the PP if Danny can fire him
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Yesterday @ 12:30 PM ET
When they hired Torts the only thing they are "rebuilding" is the culture. Not rebuilding anything else

This really is a Mickey Mouse franchise. Good luck to the people who support this and think this management team has them on the path to contention. You are either blind or dumb. Probably more likely both.

Hilferty is a joke and total laughingstock.

- furio16


Can’t disagree
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 12:30 PM ET
What teams will be interested in a 3rd pair dman who is overpaid with term? Seeler will be another Flyers lifer.

Flyers value role players over top end players. Wish I could find the quote Danny made about not wanting to be the Oilers or Leafs in terms of elite talent; rather build with depth.

None of it matters is typical Flyers homerism. All the small stuff adds up. Nah doesn't matter. When do the Flyers ever win at the margins?

- furio16


None of it matters is homerism? If you need to pay rent are you going to spend your time focusing on a job to get a paycheck so you can pay the rent or on trying to sell off a few small items for $1-$2 for a lottery ticket and hope you win with 1-2 plays?

Flyers need rent money aka elite talent. The focus is on what needs to be done to get that not selling off run of a mill players for pieces that are essentially buying 1 play for the lottery. Flyers need 1st round picks, not 5th and 6th round picks.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Yesterday @ 12:33 PM ET
I want to point out the PP has been bad for several years now, before Rocky joined the coaching staff. It has not improved I grant you that. But its clear Briere took steps, against Tort's wishes I suspect, to bring in other voices this season. Given the PP still has not improved, I would think Rocky will be replaced in the off season. If not, then I agree it makes no sense.
- jd250

Since Torts and his staff arrived the PP has been putrid. You don't have to try to defend everything they do.

There is no valid reason for Danny to not fire him unless he isn't allowed. Not sure how you or anyone else can't see it is one of 2 scenarios.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Yesterday @ 12:35 PM ET
None of it matters is homerism? If you need to pay rent are you going to spend your time focusing on a job to get a paycheck so you can pay the rent or on trying to sell off a few small items for $1-$2 for a lottery ticket and hope you win with 1-2 plays?

Flyers need rent money aka elite talent. The focus is on what needs to be done to get that not selling off run of a mill players for pieces that are essentially buying 1 play for the lottery. Flyers need 1st round picks, not 5th and 6th round picks.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Trading plugs for mid round picks increases the likely hood of drafting in the top 5 to get elite talent. Keeping them or extending them to keep them longer has them picking in the teens where it really is winning the lottery in finding elite talent
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 12:36 PM ET
Than give me 1 valid reason why Rocky still has a job running the PP if Danny can fire him
- furio16

I think its unfair to fire any coach after only one or two seasons. However this will be Rockey's 3rd season running the offense, and unfortunately the PP has not improved, and frankly looks bad. Therefore I think after this season its fair to replace Rocky.
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