nyisles7
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Location: Wrong timing, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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Let's face it ... they aren't a contender. Sell what they can and try to build back. - JimmyP
Give it a bit. After a loss Cpt and Tenille should be on pretty soon. |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Let's face it ... they aren't a contender. Sell what they can and try to build back. - JimmyP
Well, I technically agree but we can wait and see how it plays out a bit more. My guess is we'll play right up to March 7th and then see where we go from there.
"Yes", I think we should deal Brock and Palms. I also think that if you can land a top tier forward, the addition of Deangelo and Perunovich makes Dobson tradeable. (I really like both of those guys).
Fact is they're not a contender and I don't think we're just one player from becoming that. That said, they've played themselves back into the mix, so we can watch it unfold a bit more |
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PeteM
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Location: NY Joined: 07.10.2007
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Well, I technically agree but we can wait and see how it plays out a bit more. My guess is we'll play right up to March 7th and then see where we go from there.
"Yes", I think we should deal Brock and Palms. I also think that if you can land a top tier forward, the addition of Deangelo and Perunovich makes Dobson tradeable. (I really like both of those guys).
Fact is they're not a contender and I don't think we're just one player from becoming that. That said, they've played themselves back into the mix, so we can watch it unfold a bit more - keaner17
Agreed. I like the kid, and despite the small sample size, I believe that DeAngelo, Perunovich and Bogvist have made Dobson expendable. This team hasn't had this many puck movers on D in a long time. |
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Well, I technically agree but we can wait and see how it plays out a bit more. My guess is we'll play right up to March 7th and then see where we go from there.
"Yes", I think we should deal Brock and Palms. I also think that if you can land a top tier forward, the addition of Deangelo and Perunovich makes Dobson tradeable. (I really like both of those guys).
Fact is they're not a contender and I don't think we're just one player from becoming that. That said, they've played themselves back into the mix, so we can watch it unfold a bit more - keaner17
I like what Deangelo and Perunivich have shown but it’s a fairly small sample size to commit to a decision trading a 25 yr old defenseman imo. Not big on the idea of trading Dobson we have plenty of other tradeable assets Lou should be focused on unloading imo. I get it he has had a tough season but it’s not out of the ordinary for young defenseman to take a step back. We’ve seen this before hate to see it play out the same way again.
It would be so Lou to resign a couple guys in their mid thirties and trade a 25 year old. 😆
Edit: I’ll say if Dobson is looking for a long term commitment instead of another prove it contract then that makes him expendable at that point. |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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I like what Deangelo and Perunivich have shown but it’s a fairly small sample size to commit to a decision trading a 25 yr old defenseman imo. Not big on the idea of trading Dobson we have plenty of other tradeable assets Lou should be focused on unloading imo. I get it he has had a tough season but it’s not out of the ordinary for young defenseman to take a step back. We’ve seen this before hate to see it play out the same way again.
It would be so Lou to resign a couple guys in their mid thirties and trade a 25 year old. 😆
Edit: I’ll say if Dobson is looking for a long term commitment instead of another prove it contract then that makes him expendable at that point. - Cptmjl
DeAngelo is 29 and has always been a known talent as a former 1st rounder. Perunovich is only 26 and a former 2nd rounder.
In a perfect world both Mayfield and maybe a contract like Pulock would be the ones dealt out but no one is taking Mayfield's contract.
Dobson is damn talented and I'm not suggesting we deal him at all costs, but given his repeated struggles in his own zone over the past few years and an upcoming contract that is going to cost BIG money, I'm totally willing to send him out for a premier forward like say Petterson. |
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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DeAngelo is 29 and has always been a known talent as a former 1st rounder. Perunovich is only 26 and a former 2nd rounder.
In a perfect world both Mayfield and maybe a contract like Pulock would be the ones dealt out but no one is taking Mayfield's contract.
Dobson is damn talented and I'm not suggesting we deal him at all costs, but given his repeated struggles in his own zone over the past few years and an upcoming contract that is going to cost BIG money, I'm totally willing to send him out for a premier forward like say Petterson. - keaner17
Not sure if Dobson has put himself in a position for a BIG contract. Like I said in my earlier post if that were the case sign me up as far as trading him. I can see him getting another two year “prove it” contract after this season. I’ve always been a Deangelo fan(honestly didn’t expect this much from him this time around) but he’s done exactly this before with the Canes recently. Played great to start and took a step back followed by locker room issues. I’m not fully bought in that isn’t going to happen again. I’m rooting for him he can be a real big help for this team. Guess I’m just not ready to give up Dobson unless he forces our hand to do so. |
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batteryjackson
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Location: MEDICINE HAT MEDICINE PUSHERS, AB Joined: 09.30.2014
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keep the new D and trade dobson for sure |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Not sure if Dobson has put himself in a position for a BIG contract. Like I said in my earlier post if that were the case sign me up as far as trading him. I can see him getting another two year “prove it” contract after this season. I’ve always been a Deangelo fan(honestly didn’t expect this much from him this time around) but he’s done exactly this before with the Canes recently. Played great to start and took a step back followed by locker room issues. I’m not fully bought in that isn’t going to happen again. I’m rooting for him he can be a real big help for this team. Guess I’m just not ready to give up Dobson unless he forces our hand to do so. - Cptmjl
Yeah. Like I said, I don't consider this a 'we must trade Dobson' situation by any means. Prior to his injury, Dobson was close to tops in the NHL Dmen for minutes played per game. He's coming off a 7p pt season. He will likely expect at least $7m on his next contract. The term may be a bridge. I think that definitely has to go into consideration. I definitely think if those Petterson rumors are true, I'd be very interested |
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JohnScammo
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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Yeah. Like I said, I don't consider this a 'we must trade Dobson' situation by any means. Prior to his injury, Dobson was close to tops in the NHL Dmen for minutes played per game. He's coming off a 7p pt season. He will likely expect at least $7m on his next contract. The term may be a bridge. I think that definitely has to go into consideration. I definitely think if those Petterson rumors are true, I'd be very interested - keaner17
The Petterson rumor was that he wasn't getting along with JT Miller, and one of them had to be moved. Now that Miller got traded, I have to presume Petterson is off the market. |
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kasperrko
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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Rumor has it that we are buyers at trade deadline. Nelson is going to be offered a 2 - 3 year extension. All D men up for grabs except new guys and Romanov. Palms still on trade block and possibly a shocker out of no where |
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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kasperrko
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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 - eichiefs9
Yup that’s the word going around. Unreal |
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Dumb if true. |
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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If I’m Brock Nelson, I’m looking to get market value and then some. 3 years is light for a 30 goal scorer. He can probably get 5 years in free agency. This is a big contract for him. I don’t see how he would take a team friendly 3 year deal when he can get almost double that in the open market. Lou has to move him |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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The Petterson rumor was that he wasn't getting along with JT Miller, and one of them had to be moved. Now that Miller got traded, I have to presume Petterson is off the market. - JohnScammo
I thought this initially as well, however there are still suggestions he could be had |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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If I’m Brock Nelson, I’m looking to get market value and then some. 3 years is light for a 30 goal scorer. He can probably get 5 years in free agency. This is a big contract for him. I don’t see how he would take a team friendly 3 year deal when he can get almost double that in the open market. Lou has to move him - kindlyrick
I have a hard time seeing Brock getting a real significant salary for a term that would take him to 40yoa. Also, Brock WAS a 30 goal scorer. He won't come close to that this year and will likely continue to fade further from that line with each year that passes. That said, if we can find a team that still sees him as such, it's all the more reason to recoup 'fair value' |
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kasperrko
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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I have a hard time seeing Brock getting a real significant salary for a term that would take him to 40yoa. Also, Brock WAS a 30 goal scorer. He won't come close to that this year and will likely continue to fade further from that line with each year that passes. That said, if we can find a team that still sees him as such, it's all the more reason to recoup 'fair value' - keaner17
I don’t think he signs the extension he wants to test free agency he even has said it. He will be traded |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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I don’t think he signs the extension he wants to test free agency he even has said it. He will be traded - kasperrko
Supposedly he prefers to remain, but at what cost? |
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Supposedly he prefers to remain, but at what cost? - keaner17
The cost of the team’s future success. 😆 |
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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I have a hard time seeing Brock getting a real significant salary for a term that would take him to 40yoa. Also, Brock WAS a 30 goal scorer. He won't come close to that this year and will likely continue to fade further from that line with each year that passes. That said, if we can find a team that still sees him as such, it's all the more reason to recoup 'fair value' - keaner17
I just feel that part of the allure of another team might be their willingness to give him longer term. Obviously those deals don’t usually payoff towards the end, but that might be what it takes to land Brock via free agency. Just my opinion but I feel like Brock has some good hockey left in him. His stats are also based off the perennial punchless isles, with limited PP time.
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kasperrko
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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Supposedly he prefers to remain, but at what cost? - keaner17
He won’t think about it this team is light years away from a cup. He is getting older doesn’t have much time. He will be elsewhere by trade deadline |
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Nfdbulldawg
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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I have a hard time seeing Brock getting a real significant salary for a term that would take him to 40yoa. Also, Brock WAS a 30 goal scorer. He won't come close to that this year and will likely continue to fade further from that line with each year that passes. That said, if we can find a team that still sees him as such, it's all the more reason to recoup 'fair value' - keaner17
I would not say Brock won't come close to 30. He 13 goals away with 27 games left. That said, I still look to move him to restock the team. His value is not going to get any better than it is now.
If Lou really wants him back, let him try in July.
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Nfdbulldawg
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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The cost of the team’s future success. 😆 - Cptmjl
It will be equal to the Tavares situation, because Lou will be giving a guy in his mid 30s term on a team that is not close to winning anything, let alone a championship. When Lou should be stocking up the farm and picks.
If we were on the verge of winning something I would sign him. A Blind deaf mute can see the writing on the locker stall.
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Cptmjl
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It will be equal to the Tavares situation, because Lou will be giving a guy in his mid 30s term on a team that is not close to winning anything, let alone a championship. When Lou should be stocking up the farm and picks.
If we were on the verge of winning something I would sign him. A Blind deaf mute can see the writing on the locker stall. - Nfdbulldawg
Exactly. It would be dumb for multiple reasons. Hopefully Nelson forces him to make the right decision. |
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Nfdbulldawg
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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Exactly. It would be dumb for multiple reasons. Hopefully Nelson forces him to make the right decision. - Cptmjl
What if Nelson is okay with being with this group? What if he does not want to leave right now because he has a young family? While I love the loyalty, this team cannot afford any more setbacks. A lot of hard decisions need to be made about this team's future.
Hopefully there will be some positive clarity come the trade deadline.
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