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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 27 @ 8:26 PM ET
How is there not a cross check on Palms there!!! Man I get the Isles are on a PP but wow!
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 27 @ 8:39 PM ET
A major on Nelly???????

Reduced to a minor.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 27 @ 8:40 PM ET
Wow NHL shows it’s abysmal officiating on that call on Brock. Joke!
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 27 @ 8:41 PM ET
A major on Nelly???????

Reduced to a minor.

- JohnScammo

No call/major/minor/wtf
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 27 @ 8:45 PM ET
No call/major/minor/wtf
- Upstate_isles



There wasn’t even a minor penalty called on the play. Decided to call a major because the guy was hurt. Ridiculous!
Should have been a penalty on Sharek. 2 minutes for opening the bench door too soon.
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Feb 27 @ 8:45 PM ET
NHL refereeing is an absolute clown show
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:30 PM ET
Bruins goal:

Butch: "Sorokin has to have that from that angle "

Hickey: "actually that deflected off something..."

Replay shows DeAngelo redirected a cross crease pass directly in

Butch: " well...Sorokin still has to have that...."

Put the drink down Butch
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 27 @ 9:36 PM ET
Bruins goal:

Butch: "Sorokin has to have that from that angle "

Hickey: "actually that deflected off something..."

Replay shows DeAngelo redirected a cross crease pass directly in

Butch: " well...Sorokin still has to have that...."

Put the drink down Butch

- keaner17


JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 27 @ 9:46 PM ET
Sorokin with a .974 save %. Isles need to play Skarek (or whatever his name is) for the rest of the season.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:47 PM ET
Sorokin with a .974 save %. Isles need to play Skarek (or whatever his name is) for the rest of the season.
- JohnScammo

Yep. Rest that back, Ilya.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:49 PM ET
You know, Hudson Fasching was a refreshing boost of effort when he first joined the Isles two years ago, but he brings very little at this point.
19gp. 0g. 0a. 0pts +/- -6
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 27 @ 9:53 PM ET
You know, Hudson Fasching was a refreshing boost of effort when he first joined the Isles two years ago, but he brings very little at this point.
19gp. 0g. 0a. 0pts +/- -6

- keaner17

Agreed, and MacLean is only a little better. In 57 games, he has 3 goals, 5 assists and a -12 +/- rating.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 27 @ 10:39 PM ET
Agreed, and MacLean is only a little better. In 57 games, he has 3 goals, 5 assists and a -12 +/- rating.
- JohnScammo

Almost like you can find a new energy guy every year and not spend money on them. The best 4th line in hockey was an anomaly
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 27 @ 10:50 PM ET
Almost like you can find a new energy guy every year and not spend money on them. The best 4th line in hockey was an anomaly
- Upstate_isles

Exactly. What was once the Islanders' strength, the 4th line is now a weakness.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:34 AM ET
As we start to move towards the end of the season and gear up towards resetting for next season. The thought process is to get the best available.

Now when you are making a trade, I can see you have a luxury of trying to acquire the play you think will fill the hole.

However, when you are drafting, which I hope the Islanders will have more picks going into the draft this year and next year draft. The concept has is the best available. However, do you stock up on the best available and move those assets to fill the holes. Or do you draft the best available to what you need?
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:37 AM ET
Exactly. What was once the Islanders' strength, the 4th line is now a weakness.
- JohnScammo


The team is an example of poor drafting skills, poor development, and poor free agency signings. The result is not having the right pieces to plug and play to keep the machine moving forward.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:41 AM ET
As we start to move towards the end of the season and gear up towards resetting for next season. The thought process is to get the best available.

Now when you are making a trade, I can see you have a luxury of trying to acquire the play you think will fill the hole.

However, when you are drafting, which I hope the Islanders will have more picks going into the draft this year and next year draft. The concept has is the best available. However, do you stock up on the best available and move those assets to fill the holes. Or do you draft the best available to what you need?

- Nfdbulldawg


Personally I think you draft the best available. I don’t have faith in the isles scouting as seen by the drafting since they took Robert Nilsson over Zach Parise. It’s been an awful ride of busts and low risk/high reward players that never panned out. Sure there were a few hits over the years, but overall it’s been abysmal.

The Dipietro drafting was the perfect example. You already had Luongo……anyone with half a brain would have plaid the hand simply. Keep Luongo and use the pick for a dynamic forward (Which was their need). The micro managing bit them in the rear……you never split kings in blackjack.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 28 @ 8:43 AM ET
The team is an example of poor drafting skills, poor development, and poor free agency signings. The result is not having the right pieces to plug and play to keep the machine moving forward.
- Nfdbulldawg



BINGO!!! Eric Cairns being director of player development says it all. The iconic Cairns/Corson fight picture got him tenured lol
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 28 @ 9:33 AM ET
The team is an example of poor drafting skills, poor development, and poor free agency signings. The result is not having the right pieces to plug and play to keep the machine moving forward.
- Nfdbulldawg


No room for facts on this board. Team got to two ECF. What more do you want?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 28 @ 9:41 AM ET
BINGO!!! Eric Cairns being director of player development says it all. The iconic Cairns/Corson fight picture got him tenured lol
- kindlyrick


When the GM makes a comment he does not care about Bridge that says a lot.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:45 AM ET
When the GM makes a comment he does not care about Bridge that says a lot.
- ses111


Bridgeport has been bad year after year but I’m not sure if they’re usually last in the league bad, which they are.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 28 @ 9:49 AM ET
Bridgeport has been bad year after year but I’m not sure if they’re usually last in the league bad, which they are.
- kindlyrick


All is know is that other teams can rely on players from their farm team a lot more than the Islanders.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
When the GM makes a comment he does not care about Bridge that says a lot.
- ses111



If you are a big market team, you can afford to neglect your farm system in that you are probably signing big free agents. Plus you are probably trading your draft capital and prospects as you are probably in contention year after year.

Small market team like the Isles, need their farm system to thrive. You cannot hand out crappy contracts and not have pieces in the pipeline to fill in or eventually take the place of a bad contract.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
If you are a big market team, you can afford to neglect your farm system in that you are probably signing big free agents. Plus you are probably trading your draft capital and prospects as you are probably in contention year after year.

Small market team like the Isles, need their farm system to thrive. You cannot hand out crappy contracts and not have pieces in the pipeline to fill in or eventually take the place of a bad contract.

- Nfdbulldawg


Still not a good idea to neglect the farm team. The Rangers do not. Islanders need to overhaul the scouting and player development staff. You cannot just focus on the coach and expect the coach to be a miracle worker if the roster is not good enough. Islanders have tried different coaches, but the roster has remained pretty much the same. If Patrick is not good enough, Lou was the one who picked him, and Lou fired Barry and replaced him with Lane.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
Still not a good idea to neglect the farm team. The Rangers do not. Islanders need to overhaul the scouting and player development staff. You cannot just focus on the coach and expect the coach to be a miracle worker if the roster is not good enough. Islanders have tried different coaches, but the roster has remained pretty much the same. If Patrick is not good enough, Lou was the one who picked him, and Lou fired Barry and replaced him with Lane.
- ses111


In all fairness, Trotz' departure wasn't so much a firing by Lou but rather a change in direction because Barry wasn't committed to the team. Lambert was considered by many organizations the next big thing. To this dare, I'm still not sure how bad Lane really was.
I'll also say, the Isles farm has been awful since long before Lou came along. That said, he's done very little to help it
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