After the playoffs last year:

"Tocchet, who joined general manager Patrik Allvin in meeting with the media Thursday after all the players spoke, said that Pettersson was dealing with “tendinitis,” and explained that team brass and medical staff “felt it was fine to keep going. … We didn’t feel we had to shut him down.”"

From January (though not specific to which injury):

“I see signs after his injury here that he’s playing a solid two-way hockey game, pushing the pace harder, and he will continue to work on his game,” Allvin said. “And for me, I’m more about the process and playing the right way. And when you do so, the points will come.”
- NewYorkNuck

Then why is it being used as an excuse?

After the playoffs last year:

"Tocchet, who joined general manager Patrik Allvin in meeting with the media Thursday after all the players spoke, said that Pettersson was dealing with “tendinitis,” and explained that team brass and medical staff “felt it was fine to keep going. … We didn’t feel we had to shut him down.”"

From January (though not specific to which injury):

“I see signs after his injury here that he’s playing a solid two-way hockey game, pushing the pace harder, and he will continue to work on his game,” Allvin said. “And for me, I’m more about the process and playing the right way. And when you do so, the points will come.”
- NewYorkNuck

When ? He scores a point every three games now so he is on pace for 43 points. Combine that with the last half of last year and they are terrible stats.

I thought Hronek had a really solid game last night, he was good the last game I thought, but even better tonight.

Second straight game Chytil had 20+ minutes, he's been fantastic thus far.
- Pacificgem

When ? He scores a point every three games now so he is on pace for 43 points. Combine that with the last half of last year and they are terrible stats.
- VANTEL

11 million reasons to be optimistic lol.

When ? He scores a point every three games now so he is on pace for 43 points. Combine that with the last half of last year and they are terrible stats.
- VANTEL

Loui Eriksson 2.0

Then why is it being used as an excuse?
- Marwood

Just because there's an injury you can play through doesn't mean it might not effect your play. Maybe they thought it was fine but worsened over time and by then it was too late to do much about it?

I mean McCaffery in the NFL – last year's best RB – had achilles tendonitis this year, said he was good to go game one.. then sat last minute.. then went on IR for 11 weeks.. then game back, was meh, then blew out his knee. Things like this aren't necessarily as linear as a broken bone.

Also, you asked me to find a quote, so I did, so you can dispel that myth that the team didn't know about it now.

Then why is it being used as an excuse?
- Marwood

Have you ever played sports at a high level? At this point in the season there's probably 35-40% of the guys are dealing with some sort of nagging injury or bumps and bruises. It's not excuses, it's just reality. The numbers, the eye test, everything would point to him dealing with something.

On top of that he's been the prime focus/contributor in a room that the players just acknowledged has been a really difficult year. The kid is mentally weak, that's just who he is, he's going to have to recover mentally and that's not going to happen, in my opinion, until next season.

Whatever happens, playoffs or not, I just hope he can reset this summer and train like he means it, be a pro and grow up.

Loui Eriksson 2.0
- VanHockeyGuy

He comes to camp out of shape. Slow doesn't shoot. Gets outplayed by his other third liners.

Just because there's an injury you can play through doesn't mean it might not effect your play. Maybe they thought it was fine but worsened over time and by then it was too late to do much about it?

I mean McCaffery in the NFL – last year's best RB – had achilles tendonitis this year, said he was good to go game one.. then sat last minute.. then went on IR for 11 weeks.. then game back, was meh, then blew out his knee. Things like this aren't necessarily as linear as a broken bone.
- NewYorkNuck

I wish there was no such thing as NMCs. The fact that he has no protection now but will have it at season’s end is what makes this waiting game so difficult. If the team waits, NMC kicks in, and Pouty’s play does not improve… it’s a gamble that has a huge payout or a huge loss.

He comes to camp out of shape. Slow doesn't shoot. Gets outplayed by his other third liners.
- VANTEL

There's reasons for all of it, doesn't make it right, but there are circumstances that have lead to this point...which everyone is ignoring.

There's reasons for all of it, doesn't make it right, but there are circumstances that have lead to this point...which everyone is ignoring.
- Pacificgem

Basically boils down to if people believe in his injury account or not.

If so, it's pretty easy to follow the logic that knee injury led to poor play, wasn't able to effectively offseason train (as tendinitis flairs with more use), came to camp in not great shape, still impacting him.

If not, he's soft and a supposed injury like that shouldn't impact someone that much. His play is down because of him.

I wish there was no such thing as NMCs. The fact that he has no protection now but will have it at season’s end is what makes this waiting game so difficult. If the team waits, NMC kicks in, and Pouty’s play does not improve… it’s a gamble that has a huge payout or a huge loss.
- bloatedmosquito

Canucks look like they have mostly built a Jacques Lemaire like NJD team which is fine. Even Tochett is a defensive style coach, but there is a glaring square peg trying to fit into a round hole.

If Petey was being paid 3-4 mil and played this type of game the screaming would be a lot less.

Time to fix that one last mistake.

There's reasons for all of it, doesn't make it right, but there are circumstances that have lead to this point...which everyone is ignoring.
- Pacificgem

Exactly, why would that be?

Have you ever played sports at a high level? At this point in the season there's probably 35-40% of the guys are dealing with some sort of nagging injury or bumps and bruises. It's not excuses, it's just reality. The numbers, the eye test, everything would point to him dealing with something.

On top of that he's been the prime focus/contributor in a room that the players just acknowledged has been a really difficult year. The kid is mentally weak, that's just who he is, he's going to have to recover mentally and that's not going to happen, in my opinion, until next season.

Whatever happens, playoffs or not, I just hope he can reset this summer and train like he means it, be a pro and grow up.
- Pacificgem

This has been an excuse for his sub par play since February of last season.

Basically boils down to if people believe in his injury account or not.

If so, it's pretty easy to follow the logic that knee injury led to poor play, wasn't able to effectively offseason train (as tendinitis flairs with more use), came to camp in not great shape, still impacting him.

If not, he's soft and a supposed injury like that shouldn't impact someone that much. His play is down because of him.
- NewYorkNuck

His weak mental state and the problems he had with Miller is by far, again in my opinion, is the biggest reason for his downward trend. He needs to get his swagger back, and that's not going to happen in a game or two.

I enjoyed last night's game. EPT and MPT have a nice stabilizing effect back there on D. Chytil has looked very good, Hronek played well, as did Demko.
Look forward to next game.

This has been an excuse for his sub par play since February of last season.
- Marwood

This has been refuted several hundred times. But you guys just keep ignoring it. Which is why I said early, how many times can we just keep circling back and talking about the same things over and over again. I broke his point totals down Jan-Feb-Mar-April of last year. He started to struggle in April and it continued into the playoffs.

His weak mental state and the problems he had with Miller is by far, again in my opinion, is the biggest reason for his downward trend. He needs to get his swagger back, and that's not going to happen in a game or two.
- Pacificgem

That's who you want to drive the bus.

His weak mental state and the problems he had with Miller is by far, again in my opinion, is the biggest reason for his downward trend. He needs to get his swagger back, and that's not going to happen in a game or two.
- Pacificgem

I’m starting to get the Alexandre Daigle vibe off this kid. All the talent in the world but lacks deep passion for the game. Daigle went on to have a respectable hockey career but did not reach the high level he could have if focused and determined.

Just looked at his stats page and didn’t realize that Daigle is 50 years old. Time flies.

Exactly, why would that be?
- VanHockeyGuy

I don't know? People need immediate satisfaction and want immediate results. In reality it just doesn't work that way and it's different for every person. He's a weak-minded kid. The issues with Miller obviously affected him and the rest of the team as not many guys have had a good year. The room was a mess.

On top of that his knee is obviously bothering him, he doesn't have the speed he once did. And part of that is clearly on him. He either didn't rest it enough or he didn't rehab it and train enough...either way that's on him and it's not going to change midway through the season. It's going to take an off-season of rest and hard training to fix.

This has all been discussed at nauseum though.

This has been refuted several hundred times. But you guys just keep ignoring it. Which is why I said early, how many times can we just keep circling back and talking about the same things over and over again. I broke his point totals down Jan-Feb-Mar-April of last year. He started to struggle in April and it continued into the playoffs.
- Pacificgem

The fact that this is an issue day after day shows there is still some unfinished business on the table.

Ignoring the issues works both ways.

His weak mental state and the problems he had with Miller is by far, again in my opinion, is the biggest reason for his downward trend. He needs to get his swagger back, and that's not going to happen in a game or two.
- Pacificgem

... or in Vancouver, in my opinion.

... or in Vancouver, in my opinion.
- Marwood

For many reasons. Coaching roster, public pressure.

That's who you want to drive the bus.
- VANTEL

That's a Canuck decision, not mine. Some people need to be lifted up continually, positive reinforcement, some don't, they obviously knew his traits before they gave him his contract and they obviously knew of the room issues before they gave him that contract.

That's on Rutherford and Allvin. Like I've said many times, maybe a trade is the best thing for him to reset himself. As long as the return is good I'm all for it. I just want the team to win, regardless of whose names are on the back of the sweaters.

... or in Vancouver, in my opinion.
- Marwood

If they can get a good return for him, a mid 20's center, and a young winger, I'm all for it!! The Miller trade looks fantastic in the small window I've seen.