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BaronVonShiznit
Location: The Desert Southwest
Joined: 09.07.2014

Feb 5 @ 5:26 PM ET
The team is in the same spot since he took over. Bottom of the league.

He has gotten everything out of them. Yet they still are a bottom feeding team. So, is it fair to say he hasn't gotten everything out of them? Look at the PP as one example of he hasn't gotten everything out of them.

His communication is terrible. What was it he said? He doesn't do one on ones or something to that effect unless they come to him.

He refuses to use analytics. Something he admits.

This is the only level he can take this team. That has been proven over 3 seasons.

The question I have does Danny have 100% authority to dismiss him from his job? or does he need others to sign off.

Either way it is scary to think that Briere and Jones are on board with him as coach.

- furio16


This is the only thing that needs to be considered. He absolutely can not be here beyond this season (if he's not shown the door earlier).
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Feb 5 @ 5:58 PM ET
Tony D killing it for the Islanders so far. Didn't see that coming.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/player/_/id/3114769

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 5 @ 6:13 PM ET
Tortello, Tortella, chocolate, strawberry

Lets call the whole thing offff.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 5 @ 6:17 PM ET
If he is so bad why would people want to get rid if him. Let him finish his contract so they get better draft picks.
- WhiskeyMan



Because I think he has too much input on what kind of players this team looks to draft. The last thing we need is more "Torts type" players.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Feb 5 @ 6:34 PM ET

Alexander Appleyard
@avappleyard
Michkov got most of his
@khl
PP points off RHB.

5/6 PP goals this year? From the right. (other walking off righ)

Has been neutered recently with move to playing mostly LHB.

0 PP points in last 10 games.
2 PP points in last 24 games.

Absolutely ridiculous really. #Flyers


Was the move based on feedback from the power play consultants? Have to wonder if they had this data available via the crack analytics staff.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Feb 5 @ 6:36 PM ET
Because I think he has too much input on what kind of players this team looks to draft The last thing we need is more "Torts type" players.
- MBFlyerfan

Plenty of teams would like to improve their bottom 6 one would think. Tampa Rangers NJ Florida off the top of head. Maybe Wash.

Flyers have some pieces they can sell if they desire.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Feb 5 @ 7:05 PM ET
Tortsmustgo

Hire a young innovative coach
tajidog
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: solebury, PA
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 5 @ 7:42 PM ET
I think we needed him when we hired him but I think we're ready to move on. Not sure who would replace him but maybe promote Bradshaw
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Feb 5 @ 7:50 PM ET
If Torts remains in the organization giving up HC title, does he lose say? The current structure is a triumvirate that reports to Hilf. In fact, I would suggest the HC has more authority then Jones to build the team. With Torts ego, is he an equal.of the GM still in a new role? If I'm Briere I would be very concerned if his authority gets cut further with a new HC taking over for Torts. Torts gets kicked upstairs and has influence in a new title. I would be very surprised if Torts would be satisfied in some consultant role as Bob Murray.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 5 @ 8:09 PM ET
York has NOT looked like a stud as of late. Not sure what you are watching.
- Flyfly

york has been blocking shots like crazy dude
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 5 @ 8:13 PM ET
Hey York haters

mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Feb 5 @ 9:16 PM ET
york has been blocking shots like crazy dude
- 2Real


Isn’t that the goalie’s job?
If that’s the case, why pay York when the Flyers can sign 5 more Seelers?
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Feb 5 @ 9:20 PM ET
Really? Tortello....Tortella? Regardless of how his name is spelled, he needs to go asap. I never bought into the Torts is ruining Frosty, York, etc, but now that he's screwing with Michkov, I totally want him out of here. Torts' love for shot-blocking is ridiculous...I don't want our future star player to end up like Lappy.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Feb 5 @ 9:28 PM ET
Isn’t that the goalie’s job?
If that’s the case, why pay York when the Flyers can sign 5 more Seelers?

- mikeyo27


Spot on assessment! The announcers keep bragging about how we lead the league in blocked shots....ticks me off every time. If we could provide decent offense, we wouldn't have to block so many shots. Last night's game was horrible despite Hartnell saying the Flyers played a great game.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 5 @ 9:36 PM ET
Hey York haters


- 2Real



Carolina certainly doesn't need Ristolainen.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Feb 5 @ 9:47 PM ET
Alexander Appleyard
@avappleyard
Michkov got most of his
@khl
PP points off RHB.

5/6 PP goals this year? From the right. (other walking off righ)

Has been neutered recently with move to playing mostly LHB.

0 PP points in last 10 games.
2 PP points in last 24 games.

Absolutely ridiculous really. #Flyers


Was the move based on feedback from the power play consultants? Have to wonder if they had this data available via the crack analytics staff.

- StepfordSam


I'm not sure why anyone feels it's a good idea to have Torts continue coaching.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 6 @ 12:10 AM ET
Spot on assessment! The announcers keep bragging about how we lead the league in blocked shots....ticks me off every time. If we could provide decent offense, we wouldn't have to block so many shots. Last night's game was horrible despite Hartnell saying the Flyers played a great game.
- Don Nachbaur

so it's not York's fault?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 6 @ 7:06 AM ET
I would get a whole new set of coaches going into next year. I also do not want Torts having anything to do with personnel decisions after he is let go as the coach.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 6 @ 7:07 AM ET
Carolina certainly doesn't need Ristolainen.
- MBFlyerfan


But he would bring so much experience in the playoffs.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Feb 6 @ 7:11 AM ET
When Torts came, some of us loved the idea (me) some of us hated the idea. The Flyers were perceived as a country club and there was never any accountability (at least it seemed that way). The Flyers were is disarray, A rudderless ship that was supposedly undergoing an “aggressive retool.”

One of the chief complaints by the doubters on Torts was that he is horrible with young players. Flyers at the time or early in Torts’ tenure had exciting young players and prospects like Frost, Farabee, Brink, Foerester, later players like Michkov, Foerester, Gauthier, Bonk, Luchenko, Andrae, And Drysdale were drafted, elevated or brought in via trade.

Gauthier never made it to the team and there’s no evidence that was the coach’s fault. The rest of the players all have had at least a training camp with Torts. Can’t judge Bonk and Luchenko so take them out of the equation.

Of the remainders, who of these players has Torts coached up to their young potential. Are the Flyers that inept at drafting. Were those players really not worthy of the hype, draft position or trade value? No one can deny the raw talent of all those young players. So I ask the Torts supporters (I jumped that ship a long time ago):

Who of these young players has Torts coached up to their potential and put them where they should be at this point in the careers?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 6 @ 7:12 AM ET
Really? Tortello....Tortella? Regardless of how his name is spelled, he needs to go asap. I never bought into the Torts is ruining Frosty, York, etc, but now that he's screwing with Michkov, I totally want him out of here. Torts' love for shot-blocking is ridiculous...I don't want our future star player to end up like Lappy.
- Don Nachbaur


Torts cannot coach offensive players without stifling their offensive game. I am sure some of the issues with Michkov is fatigue. However, when was the last time you saw Michkov try a creative play on offense? I do not watch every second of every game but it has been a good long stretch since I've seen it.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Feb 6 @ 7:30 AM ET
Hey York haters


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First you say he is playing like a stud and that is not reality. He has been very average as of late. Now your metric is blocking shots. Bc he blocks a lot of shots he is a stud? Is Seeler a stud?

corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 6 @ 7:54 AM ET
Alexander Appleyard
@avappleyard
Michkov got most of his
@khl
PP points off RHB.

5/6 PP goals this year? From the right. (other walking off righ)

Has been neutered recently with move to playing mostly LHB.

0 PP points in last 10 games.
2 PP points in last 24 games.

Absolutely ridiculous really. #Flyers


Was the move based on feedback from the power play consultants? Have to wonder if they had this data available via the crack analytics staff.

- StepfordSam


Everything is the opposite here from russia -- their right is our left and their production on the PP is being m ade to learn how to not be good offensively

pretty straight forward stuff - do not understand why you are confused
wbroudy
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 6 @ 8:55 AM ET
time to move on from torts but team still needs a lot more talent.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Feb 6 @ 9:02 AM ET
time to move on from torts but team still needs a lot more talent.
- wbroudy

You think? 2 top 6 centers, #1 dman, #2/3 dman, and a legit goalie. Easy peasy.
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