No, I don't agree. The message has been clear and consistent, i.e. we are not adding to this team because we don't have the cap space, and the goal of this year was to continue to develop and evaluate the players on this team. That is exactly what they have done.
- jd250

They haven’t developed anyone. Who is playing above their weight. Been evaluating these same players for 3 years now. You eat up everything they say.

Imagine being this bad a team with limited cap space. Very efficient

Overall attendance from last season is up 0.1% from last season. I do believe there was excitement on Michkov starting his NHL career to start the season. I do wonder if that excitement is still as high with how the season has played out. I really do not know. Does a HC move the needle as far as fan excitement over players? I tend to side with players have much more impact, but I would like to hear the other side HCs can have a significant impact also.
- Trox88

Players drive excitement that’s why we are hearing the Briere is going to go big the offseason. But he can only do so much with this roster. A HC can also play an exciting brand of hockey instead of whatever crap the Flyers have been playing this year.

Actually Torts had a great presser today. He admitted that he made a mistake by not playing Michkov in the 3rd period the other night, which I thought was a big step for him. But no, nothing has changed on my opinion. The Flyers have put all of their eggs into this draft, and teams are gearing up for what is projected to be a deeper draft in 2026. Thus the Flyers need to tank hard to maximize at least their picks, and try to use the other picks they have in trades. Risto, Laughton and Poehling (if he recovers in time) should be traded at this deadline so free up more cap space open up more spots for some Phantoms.

Russ Cohen today had an interesting observation as to why the Flyers brought up Ginning instead of Grans, who is the better defenseman. He thinks the Flyers brought up Ginning because he is a physical defenseman and they are seeing if he can fill in the spot for Risto, so that may be an indication Briere is looking to move Risto. One thing he also brought up is a Grans is a RFA next year so the Flyers need to be careful and should look to bring him back up soon.
- jd250

Archaic and stupid thinking if true. The best players should be playing not ones who fit into a predetermined box - especially an outdated one like physicality

Players drive excitement that’s why we are hearing the Briere is going to go big the offseason. But he can only do so much with this roster. A HC can also play an exciting brand of hockey instead of whatever crap the Flyers have been playing this year.
- psuhockey

dump, chase, dump, chase... the most boring brand of hockey Philly has ever played.

No, I don't agree. The message has been clear and consistent, i.e. we are not adding to this team because we don't have the cap space, and the goal of this year was to continue to develop and evaluate the players on this team. That is exactly what they have done.
- jd250

What players have they developed?

Exactly, so as of right now Sullivan is as good as Torts and Torts only has TK. Would Torts have a better record if he had Crosby?
- WhiskeyMan

Talent usually wins. But, and keep up, we are talking about developing players and playing a brand of hockey that is not just dump and chase. Torts knows nothing about the offensive side of the game and has admitted as much in the past.

People still defending this coaching staff is admirable. For the love of God please give them at minimum a 2 year extension. Let Torts finish the job and reap the rewards.
- furio16

I dont think anyone is saying we shouldnt move on from Rocky or Torts. However I have liked what Shaw has done with the Defense. He would be someone worth keeping IMO

I dont think anyone is saying we shouldnt move on from Rocky or Torts. However I have liked what Shaw has done with the Defense. He would be someone worth keeping IMO
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Shaw I have no problem with. Rocky should have been fired into the sun last year and it is Torts who keeps him around. It amazes me that fans do not get this. But to argue that "I don't think anyone is saying we should not move on from Torts or Rocky" is... well, he is posting on the board today.

Players drive excitement that’s why we are hearing the Briere is going to go big the offseason. But he can only do so much with this roster. A HC can also play an exciting brand of hockey instead of whatever crap the Flyers have been playing this year.
- psuhockey

I was around when Flyers acquired Lindros. It was insane the excitement that was generated for the team. That's why I believe Risto and Laughts are going at the deadline. Create as much cap space as possible. Building a roster to play a brand of hockey that fans want to see. As a Flyers fan, am I filled with pride my team is leading the league in blocked shots. No. Flyers are around 20th in the league in goal scoring-not great. I believe Briere will soft tank the rest of this year, and in the summer will add a high end center and a competent NHL goalie at the very least. Rebuild is over after the draft, IMO.

They haven’t developed anyone. Who is playing above their weight. Been evaluating these same players for 3 years now. You eat up everything they say.

Imagine being this bad a team with limited cap space. Very efficient
- furio16

Konecny. No one here expected him to be a Point per game player especially on this team. You could Argue Sanheim is playing above his weight. Hes doing a fairly good job in a #1D spot that people claim he isnt. York as well, maybe a drop off from last season but no one expected him to be that good. Not sure anyone had any expectations for Ersson and while his stats probably dont reflect it, hes played above what most people would have thought he was.

It isnt like we've had a ton of high potential players either. We are years away from seeing what Foerster, Brink, Andrae and Drysdale can do and No matter how good Michkov ends up kind of expected that.

I dont think anyone is saying we shouldnt move on from Rocky or Torts. However I have liked what Shaw has done with the Defense. He would be someone worth keeping IMO
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Can you break it down for me what Shaw has done exactly? Haven’t seen any progression from York and Zamula. JD hasn’t taken any big steps

Exactly, so as of right now Sullivan is as good as Torts and Torts only has TK. Would Torts have a better record if he had Crosby?
- WhiskeyMan

Sullivan won two Stanley cups in the last ten years while Tortorella’s biggest achievement in that time was a 1st round playoff win. If you want to counter with Tortorella teams in that time didn’t have the same level of talent then ask yourself why a more talented team never tried to hire him.

Flyers 4-5-1 last 10, better than it feels

Konecny. No one here expected him to be a Point per game player especially on this team. You could Argue Sanheim is playing above his weight. Hes doing a fairly good job in a #1D spot that people claim he isnt. York as well, maybe a drop off from last season but no one expected him to be that good. Not sure anyone had any expectations for Ersson and while his stats probably dont reflect it, hes played above what most people would have thought he was.

It isnt like we've had a ton of high potential players either. We are years away from seeing what Foerster, Brink, Andrae and Drysdale can do and No matter how good Michkov ends up kind of expected that.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Give me a break TK is what a 10 year vet? Sanheim. That’s your list? 2 vets.

Majority have regressed or stagnate. Clearly talking about younger players.

Give me a break TK is what a 10 year vet? Sanheim. That’s your list? 2 vets.

Majority have regressed or stagnate. Clearly talking about younger players.
- furio16

regarding Sanheim - if anything I put his play squarely on his shoulders. after nearly being traded he went to work to build up his body. he proved the flyers wrong by taking it upon himself to get stronger and better.

regarding Sanheim - if anything I put his play squarely on his shoulders. after nearly being traded he went to work to build up his body. he proved the flyers wrong by taking it upon himself to get stronger and better.
- Flyfly

That’s all the Flyers defenders seem to have. Shaw being this defensive guru is also a myth.

would be good to see some OT games tonight, you have some teams near the Flyers in the standings that are playing better teams or each other, all need to get 2 points.


LETS GO FLYERS

Konecny. No one here expected him to be a Point per game player especially on this team. You could Argue Sanheim is playing above his weight. Hes doing a fairly good job in a #1D spot that people claim he isnt. York as well, maybe a drop off from last season but no one expected him to be that good. Not sure anyone had any expectations for Ersson and while his stats probably dont reflect it, hes played above what most people would have thought he was.

It isnt like we've had a ton of high potential players either. We are years away from seeing what Foerster, Brink, Andrae and Drysdale can do and No matter how good Michkov ends up kind of expected that.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Is this serious? No one expected him to be that good? He was the 14th overall pick in his draft who had two good years at Michigan and captained a WJC team to a gold medal. I'd argue many expected him to be better at this point as he has little to no offense in his game. I know a lot of fans still remember who was picked right after him too.

Ersson has almost 100 games played at this point and has a career save percentage of .893 His numbers this year are right in line with his career averages. Not bad for a 5th round pick I guess but it's not like he's exactly blowing people out of the water. And he did have some hype coming out of his last year in Sweden. He's also prone to nagging injuries it seems.

Is this serious? No one expected him to be that good? He was the 14th overall pick in his draft who had two good years at Michigan and captained a WJC team to a gold medal. I'd argue many expected him to be better at this point as he has little to no offense in his game. I know a lot of fans still remember who was picked right after him too.

Ersson has almost 100 games played at this point and has a career save percentage of .893 His numbers this year are right in line with his career averages. Not bad for a 5th round pick I guess but it's not like he's exactly blowing people out of the water. And he did have some hype coming out of his last year in Sweden. He's also prone to nagging injuries it seems.
- TobyFlenderson

Evaluating players, like trades, is hard

Is this serious? No one expected him to be that good? He was the 14th overall pick in his draft who had two good years at Michigan and captained a WJC team to a gold medal. I'd argue many expected him to be better at this point as he has little to no offense in his game. I know a lot of fans still remember who was picked right after him too.

Ersson has almost 100 games played at this point and has a career save percentage of .893 His numbers this year are right in line with his career averages. Not bad for a 5th round pick I guess but it's not like he's exactly blowing people out of the water. And he did have some hype coming out of his last year in Sweden. He's also prone to nagging injuries it seems.
- TobyFlenderson

Please dont give me that crap. No one thought Konecny was a PPG player. People thought he was good sure but nowhere near the level hes playing at now.

People have been crying all year about how you cant get elite talent at 14th overall but now that Konecny is elite and it goes against the narrative now you all of a sudden can and its expected... Give me a break

Please dont give me that crap. No one thought Konecny was a PPG player. People thought he was good sure but nowhere near the level hes playing at now.

People have been crying all year about how you cant get elite talent at 14th overall but now that Konecny is elite and it goes against the narrative now you all of a sudden can and its expected... Give me a break
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Torts did a great job developing TK.

Having an elite year does not make one an elite player

https://www.reddit.com/r/...nterview_with_jeff_marek/

-Marek talks about how coaches and GMs are getting younger than they were years ago. Danny says there is a trend there, but he is excited to be surrounded by Jonesy, Bob Murray, and Dean Lombardi who have experience, along with Clarke, Holmgren, and Barber.

Country club


-Michkov is going wonderfully. The reality is it's a tough league and not used to playing 82 NHL games. So happy he came over early and to work with the Flyers coaching staff. He works hard, blocks shots, backchecks hard. The future is so bright for him.

lol thank goodness he blocks shots! Wtf?

Jett Luchanko is going to decide if he slots in next season. Danny says he probably deserved to stay in the lineup this year, but the team wanted to give him a chance to go back to junior. It will probably be a tough decision next year with a longer look

The Room Jr a lock next year

https://www.reddit.com/r/Flyers/comments/1ijcwzs/briere_interview_with_jeff_marek/

-Marek talks about how coaches and GMs are getting younger than they were years ago. Danny says there is a trend there, but he is excited to be surrounded by Jonesy, Bob Murray, and Dean Lombardi who have experience, along with Clarke, Holmgren, and Barber.

Country club


-Michkov is going wonderfully. The reality is it's a tough league and not used to playing 82 NHL games. So happy he came over early and to work with the Flyers coaching staff. He works hard, blocks shots, backchecks hard. The future is so bright for him.

lol thank goodness he blocks shots! Wtf?

Jett Luchanko is going to decide if he slots in next season. Danny says he probably deserved to stay in the lineup this year, but the team wanted to give him a chance to go back to junior. It will probably be a tough decision next year with a longer look

The Room Jr a lock next year
- StepfordSam

This putz is in over his head. Gonna suck all offense out of MM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Flyers/comments/1ijcwzs/briere_interview_with_jeff_marek/

-Marek talks about how coaches and GMs are getting younger than they were years ago. Danny says there is a trend there, but he is excited to be surrounded by Jonesy, Bob Murray, and Dean Lombardi who have experience, along with Clarke, Holmgren, and Barber.

Country club


-Michkov is going wonderfully. The reality is it's a tough league and not used to playing 82 NHL games. So happy he came over early and to work with the Flyers coaching staff. He works hard, blocks shots, backchecks hard. The future is so bright for him.

lol thank goodness he blocks shots! Wtf?

Jett Luchanko is going to decide if he slots in next season. Danny says he probably deserved to stay in the lineup this year, but the team wanted to give him a chance to go back to junior. It will probably be a tough decision next year with a longer look

The Room Jr a lock next year
- StepfordSam

Sigh


I don't want Michkov to ever block a shot in his entire career.


As for Jett, he was overmatched from game one of the regular season. Preseason was fine, but once the real pros started playing at full speed he wasn't ready. How could he be? The coaches and other players can tell him to expect it, but until you experience it, you really have no idea.

Never mind how well Torts developed Panarin, or Werenski in Columbus. It's complete nonsense to state Torts can't coach offense and shows a complete lack of understanding of the NHL game.
- jd250

Yeah, he was a pretty crappy player in Chicago...good thing Lord Torts saved him.