What your talking about is a tear down to the studs tank, and that was never the plan and for very good reason. Briere was close to trading Sanheim but that trade was nixed by Corey Krug. With the contract Fletcher signed Sanheim including the NMC, we are stuck with him. At least Sanheim is playing better now since this trade fell through. TK could have been traded, but I was happy he stayed here and I think he can absolutely be an important part of the team when they contend. Laughton could have been traded, but it wouldn't had made a difference in the end if its last year or this year, given he has a very low cap hit. I think he will be traded this deadline. Bedard and Celebrini were number 1 picks. This team would have never been bad enough to get to this point.
- jd250

I disagree i personally would and still would trade tk

I really like him he is a good player, but in 2 or 3 years time he will be on the decline as our team is on the incline

The players you claim that have developed are nothing more than bottom 6 forwards at the moment - TK was a close to a PPG play under av -- so no he has not developed of anything he has stagnated

Prospects -- MM in and out of the dog house -- needs to "play the right way" that is a gross misuse of a "prospect" The Room Jr™ is barely a PPG player in his draft + 1 year - so I am not buying that yet -- what has bonk done? Barkey? Our goaltending S% is below .890 and Kosolov is the 3rd string goalie

How many times has the medical staff listed a player day to day only to be out for weeks?
- corduroy

Par for the course for medical communication from pro teams. No team accurately states what a player's condition is. Also take into account the Flyers held out Drysdale earlier in the season to work on his game, though he was healthy and could have played. And then you have the concussions to Tippet and Poehling that are impossible to project.

Kolosov will benefit from playing the AHL and will get better if he stays there. He showed that he has the skills to be a good NHL goalie, just needs to get used to the game and develop. Don't forget the Flyers have Zavragin who has a .915 save% in the KHL and Bjarnason who has a .910 save % on a bad team. Barkey is scoring 1.6 points/game this season, the same great pace he had last season for the London Knights. Bonk point wise is behind his pace of last season, but as a defenseman that doesn't mean much because he might be developing well in other areas. For comparison though, D1ckinson exceeding his point pace from last season. Luchanko is actually exceeding his point pace from last season for a bad Geulph team. So my point is hte Flyers have prospects that are are showing promise and more will be added this draft.

Lines at practice, where is the kid? O no, MM not with the guy who knows how to play with already, Torts just being stubborn, Ami right ?

SO a player who will not hit their career high in points is progressing? Forester has "played the right way" since he was called up -- that it the reason him not scoring was overlooked by torts and company - to say he is growing in other areas is disingenuous.

torts has done more harm than good - if he is so great why is the team in the exact same position YEAR AFTER YEAR?
- corduroy

That's a dumb question, how do ypu expect to be better

losing hart to jail or soon to be most likely does that make the team better?

Trading a top 4 defenseman for a 1st rd pick make the team better right now

Like I don't care who the coach is when you take good players away and don't replace them you gonna get worse.

Do you think if we had our team the same from beginning last season till the end of the season we make the playoffs, i do.

Wake up and smell the b.s. you saying

The flyers made themselves even worse trading frost and bee away, and that's good in increases our picks.

But yet you still complain

Sid and Geno out, the Pens are even better than the Flyers at tanking, Ami right ?

I disagree i personally would and still would trade tk

I really like him he is a good player, but in 2 or 3 years time he will be on the decline as our team is on the incline
- SlNlSTER

It's possible, but I said the same thing about Bergeron in Boston, and take a look at his numbers into his 30s, a model of consistent play and production. TK can easily be part of the solution here. Besides, there are no generational talents in this draft, so getting the #1 pick in this draft really doesn't matter. Being in the top 5 however is very important for the Flyers so they can get a kid with a high ceiling.

Sid and Geno out, the Pens are even better than the Flyers at tanking, Ami right ?
- wcorvette

I hope so

IMO Cates and Brink have taken significant steps this season. I didn't think either player were NHL payers coming into this season. Foerster is on place to do slightly better scoring wise from last year, but he is growing in other areas of his game that don't necessarily show up on the stat sheet. I would still like to see Foerster find space for his shot more. Torts has had a positive impact on several players on the Flyers currently, and its hysterical that you will not at least give Torts credit for this.
- jd250

You're a poor judge of talent so that isn't surprising.

Hysterical you can't acknowledge the players who have regressed or stayed static.

It's possible, but I said the same thing about Bergeron in Boston, and take a look at his numbers into his 30s, a model of consistent play and production. TK can easily be part of the solution here. Besides, there are no generational talents in this draft, so getting the #1 pick in this draft really doesn't matter. Being in the top 5 however is very important for the Flyers so they can get a kid with a high ceiling.
- jd250

By that logic there is still hope for Coots

Ppl dont look at that as a positive, they say you have to full out tank, then cry the team losing.

Im ok with the way things are going, I have the feeling they really trying to turn over every stone in there prospect pool to see what the have and what they don't have.

I expect 2026 off season be the 1 that we turn the corner
- SlNlSTER

I agree, I mean it has to be right? Briere has got to make some bold moves this offseason and build around Michkov, and now he has the space and assets to do it. Even Torts has stated the Flyers don't have the players to play at Michkov's level and that is hurting him a bit, because he gets down on himself when he can't score. Michkov himself said after last night's game he had more pep in his legs because he was scoring. This is where Michkov has to learn to be a pro and have that pep in his legs all the time and not get down on himself. Torts also stated the other day that if Michkov doesn't score by mid way through the game he loses energy.

By that logic there is still hope for Coots
- wcorvette

I think Couts can get better, but I think the back surgeries have clearly taken their toll and Couts has lost a step he honestly could not afford to lose.

I agree, I mean it has to be right? Briere has got to make some bold moves this offseason and build around Michkov, and now he has the space and assets to do it. Even Torts has stated the Flyers don't have the players to play at Michkov's level and that is hurting him a bit, because he gets down on himself when he can't score. Michkov himself said after last night's game he had more pep in his legs because he was scoring. This is where Michkov has to learn to be a pro and have that pep in his legs all the time and not get down on himself. Torts also stated the other day that if Michkov doesn't score by mid way through the game he loses energy.
- jd250

lets here your plan for the bold moves he should make Surely you some thoughts on it.

Leran to be a pro are more Flyers and Torts buzzwords.

You're a poor judge of talent so that isn't surprising.

Hysterical you can't acknowledge the players who have regressed or stayed static.
- furio16

Why, you thought differently about Cates and Brink? Don't make me laugh

I think Couts can get better, but I think the back surgeries have clearly taken their toll and Couts has lost a step he honestly could not afford to lose.
- jd250

Needs to be moved to the wing.

Par for the course for medical communication from pro teams. No team accurately states what a player's condition is. Also take into account the Flyers held out Drysdale earlier in the season to work on his game, though he was healthy and could have played. And then you have the concussions to Tippet and Poehling that are impossible to project.

Kolosov will benefit from playing the AHL and will get better if he stays there. He showed that he has the skills to be a good NHL goalie, just needs to get used to the game and develop. Don't forget the Flyers have Zavragin who has a .915 save% in the KHL and Bjarnason who has a .910 save % on a bad team. Barkey is scoring 1.6 points/game this season, the same great pace he had last season for the London Knights. Bonk point wise is behind his pace of last season, but as a defenseman that doesn't mean much because he might be developing well in other areas. For comparison though, D1ckinson exceeding his point pace from last season. Luchanko is actually exceeding his point pace from last season for a bad Geulph team. So my point is hte Flyers have prospects that are are showing promise and more will be added this draft.
- jd250

1. How is Kosolov going to play in the AHL when he is the third goalie on the
NHL roster?

2. Barkey could not even make the WJC roster in his d+1 year and your telling me he is a top prospect?

3. Hope and luck is not a recipe for success especially for defensemen

4. The Room Jr™ has been less than stellar this year, regardless of how his team is doing

5. So they are going to add high end prospect in a weak draft?

I think I insulted the dolts of the world when I called you one

lets here your plan for the bold moves he should make Surely you some thoughts on it.

Leran to be a pro are more Flyers and Torts buzzwords.
- furio16

They are not buzzwords, and you would know that if you actually ever played a sport at even a middling level.

I don't know what Briere is going to do to be honest. Offer sheets, hockey trades, drafting high? Could be one of these things. Could be all of these things. I just believe one way or the other the team will look very different next season.

Why, you thought differently about Cates and Brink? Don't make me laugh
- jd250

They clearly showed they were NHL level players prior to this year.

That's a dumb question, how do ypu expect to be better

losing hart to jail or soon to be most likely does that make the team better?

Trading a top 4 defenseman for a 1st rd pick make the team better right now

Like I don't care who the coach is when you take good players away and don't replace them you gonna get worse.

Do you think if we had our team the same from beginning last season till the end of the season we make the playoffs, i do.

Wake up and smell the b.s. you saying

The flyers made themselves even worse trading frost and bee away, and that's good in increases our picks.

But yet you still complain
- SlNlSTER

English really is your second language

They are not buzzwords, and you would know that if you actually ever played a sport at even a middling level.

I don't know what Briere is going to do to be honest. Offer sheets, hockey trades, drafting high? Could be one of these things. Could be all of these things. I just believe one way or the other the team will look very different next season.
- jd250

Playing at a JV level or tee ball that you did does not constitute playing sports.

Whatever the 3 stooges do you will lap it up and defend it all day,

1. How is Kosolov going to play in the AHL when he is the third goalie on the
NHL roster?

2. Barkey could not even make the WJC roster in his d+1 year and your telling me he is a top prospect?

3. Hope and luck is not a recipe for success especially for defensemen

4. The Room Jr™ has been less than stellar this year, regardless of how his team is doing

5. So they are going to add high end prospect in a weak draft?

I think I insulted the dolts of the world when I called you one
- corduroy

If you knew anything about this draft class, which you clearly don't, there is high end talent (not generational) in the first 6 or so picks. Then there is a drop off to very good talent until about pick 15, and then there is another drop off. It's a weaker draft, but that doesn't mean there are not good players to be selected.

Why, you thought differently about Cates and Brink? Don't make me laugh
- jd250

They were bottom 6 forwards in October just as they are now

If you knew anything about this draft class, which you clearly don't, there is high end talent (not generational) in the first 6 or so picks. Then there is a drop off to very good talent until about pick 15, and then there is another drop off. It's a weaker draft, but that doesn't mean there are not good players to be selected.
- jd250

Flyers disagree. They been touting this draft class for a long while as franchise altering.

They are not buzzwords, and you would know that if you actually ever played a sport at even a middling level.

I don't know what Briere is going to do to be honest. Offer sheets, hockey trades, drafting high? Could be one of these things. Could be all of these things. I just believe one way or the other the team will look very different next season.
- jd250

He could also trade the vaunted 7 p!ck$ for Mcdavid and a sack of beans

They clearly showed they were NHL level players prior to this year.
- furio16

Oh come on, they played in the NHL last year but both were marginal. Both have taken significant steps forward this year.

They were bottom 6 forwards in October just as they are now
- corduroy

Correct. Nothing wrong with that at all. Brink I think has more to offer offensively just needs a better coach.