What fair share? Tariffs dont do that. You hit Canada with Tariffs, they hit you with Tariffs. The citizens of all countries are the ones who suffer because we end up paying more. The tariffs are not good. When Canada puts Tariff on Oil guess what happens. Americans pay more. This trade war is a result of incompetence. Free trade agreement benefited both countries.

The US loses with Tariffs too because now Canadians are boycotting American products.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Part of the problem is our government has allowed us to be put into a very vulnerable position with regards to trade. The assumption that the US would never use their superior economic might against us was an assumption that is proving to be ill advised.
Canada can’t go overboard on oil tariffs simply because Alberta’s # 1 (and actually only) cliebnt is the US….

Fair share as in what they contribute to nato. Other countries send peace keeping troops to Ukraine, the US will be sending none.

Canada will lose more on Tariffs. Who is Canada's number 1 consumer of gas, the US. We could simply not purchase.

Is it fair that other countries charge more for a product than we can?

Is it fair that other countries can sell products in the US but we can't sell products in some countries?

What does Canada have that the US can't live without? Who needs who more.
- WhiskeyMan

Only problem is at this point….the US needs Canadian oil because your consumption far exceeds your production. The US also sells (actually private US corporations) sell at extreme profits to the world….the business model works…One day you may be energy independent….that day is far down the road….and most if not all the oil industry is fine with the current set up.

I am curious from the Canadien perspective, Trudeau has resigned and apparently a new govt will form. Was Trudeau a success? What direction will the country be going forward? Status quo?
- Trox88

Liberal party is finding a new leader. Trudeau is in charge until they do and then there will be an election I believe. Mark Carny seems to be the front runner for the Liberal Party.

I wouldnt call Trudeau a success but he wasnt the worst either. Carbon Tax for example didnt appear to work as expected. It drove up prices of things such as gas. It seems like scraping the tax is a big part of every parties platform now.

Liberal party is finding a new leader. Trudeau is in charge until they do and then there will be an election I believe. Mark Carny seems to be the front runner for the Liberal Party.

I wouldnt call Trudeau a success but he wasnt the worst either. Carbon Tax for example didnt appear to work as expected. It drove up prices of things such as gas. It seems like scraping the tax is a big part of every parties platform now.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Trudeau is responsible for the current problem we now face with the US. To me that will be what he is remembered for.

Great game….not a big fan of booing the US anthem….why lower yourself to the Orange menace? Canadiens need to stop listening to the president….its about actions not words and rhetoric. Great game between two teams that repped their countries the right way. A couple of iffy goals reinforced Canada’s biggest fear….goaltending.
That’s what hockey used to be….before the great commercialization of the sport….i get it, but I don’t have to like it.
Hopefully Canada gets geared up for Monday’s game so we get to see round two Thursday night.
- landros 2

Who is that?

Liberal party is finding a new leader. Trudeau is in charge until they do and then there will be an election I believe. Mark Carny seems to be the front runner for the Liberal Party.

I wouldnt call Trudeau a success but he wasnt the worst either. Carbon Tax for example didnt appear to work as expected. It drove up prices of things such as gas. It seems like scraping the tax is a big part of every parties platform now.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I appreciate the feedback. When gov't leadership changes, there should be an expectation of making a country better going fwd from its citizens. I believe the current US/Canada situation highlights issues that have been neglected by politicians in both countries for decades.

Who is that?
- Striiker

Fukktard….Trump. lol….actually for the most part I like a lot of what he’s doing…just not the part where’s he’s screwing with the world economy. I’m a little surprised at his ignorant comments about the whole 51rst state stuff….i frankly don’t see its purpose. I would think a sitting president would have a little more dignity and respect, despite having a personal issue with Trudeau.
As far as if he will be successful in a lot of his plans? I hope he is…what has always been and always will be, if the US does well, Canada does well. Four years of Trump won’t change that.

Fukktard….Trump. lol….actually for the most part I like a lot of what he’s doing…just not the part where’s he’s screwing with the world economy. I’m a little surprised at his ignorant comments about the whole 51rst state stuff….i frankly don’t see its purpose. I would think a sitting president would have a little more dignity and respect, despite having a personal issue with Trudeau.
As far as if he will be successful in a lot of his plans? I hope he is…what has always been and always will be, if the US does well, Canada does well. Four years of Trump won’t change that.
- landros 2

America first. Great concept and he is following through on it. People don't like it, oh well. That is part of why he was elected.

The 51st state stuff is hysterical. He constantly throws thing out there for the reaction. More times than not he gets said reaction. He probably laughs his ass off seeing the responses. Funny thing is what could Canada even do if the USA wanted/took Canada.

When all is said and done, he will go down as one of the greatest presidents. At least in my opinion.

America first. Great concept and he is following through on it. People don't like it, oh well. That is part of why he was elected.

The 51st state stuff is hysterical. He constantly throws thing out there for the reaction. More times than not he gets said reaction. He probably laughs his ass off seeing the responses. Funny thing is what could Canada even do if the USA wanted/took Canada.

When all is said and done, he will go down as one of the greatest presidents. At least in my opinion.
- Striiker

The US could take any country….then what is Trump? That would make him a dictator. Those are always fun places to live….That’s not how democracies work. His comments are as hysterical as Canadians booing your national anthem.
He may go down as a great President in your eyes but the rest of the world and half of your country see’s him for what he is an Azzhole.

The US could take any country….then what is Trump? That would make him a dictator. Those are always fun places to live….That’s not how democracies work. His comments are as hysterical as Canadians booing your national anthem.
He may go down as a great President in your eyes but the rest of the world and half of your country see’s him for what he is an Azzhole.
- landros 2

They may view him as that as they just don't like being held accountable. Hope he puts the screws to them all so to speak. Catering to the minority is hopefully coming to an end. He is so mean. Boo hoo.

Take him any day over who and what held that office prior.

Could careless anyone outside the country booing the national anthem. Means nothing at the end of the day. Actually, one can take it as the US doing their job.

The US could take any country….then what is Trump? That would make him a dictator. Those are always fun places to live….That’s not how democracies work. His comments are as hysterical as Canadians booing your national anthem.
He may go down as a great President in your eyes but the rest of the world and half of your country see’s him for what he is an Azzhole.
- landros 2

Whatever it takes to get you through it. His approval ratings say otherwise.

They may view him as that as they just don't like being held accountable. Hope he puts the screws to them all so to speak. Catering to the minority is hopefully coming to an end. He is so mean. Boo hoo.

Take him any day over who and what held that office prior.

Could careless anyone outside the country booing the national anthem. Means nothing at the end of the day. Actually, one can take it as the US doing their job.
- Striiker

No argument as far as him being better then the last guy….not sure his economic plan will have its desired effects…or if it won’t damage the US economy as well. …but if he does a lot of the other things he’s attempting it’s a small price to pay in my book….anyways….i don’t have to like or respect him…but if he can end the war in Ukraine (or help) , stabilize the Middle East and stop an influx of criminals at your Southern border…then to me he will be successful.
To me he’s doing a lot of good…and some not so good….interesting 4 years ahead.

Whatever it takes to get you through it. His approval ratings say otherwise.
- MBFlyerfan

One thing about Trump….he's a tad thin skinned…does make for some interesting comments.

Exactly. The way the administration is treating a traditional ally and friend is absurd. Trump being a wiener is why they are booing. They’re not booing the US per se nor its people or even this hockey team.
- Hextall271

God forbid the President of the United States puts his countries interests ahead of others

God forbid the President of the United States puts his countries interests ahead of others
- corduroy

You would think all leaders would have that mindset.

You would think all leaders would have that mindset.
- landros 2

Did you ever wonder why other leaders who have that mindset are criticized? Orban in Hungary does not seem to be well liked by the rest of the world. I guess my basic point is if a leader of a country is "liked and respected' by the supposed rest of the world, I would be rather concerned what direction my country is going as a citizen in today's environment.

It amazes me how brainwashed people are when it comes to Trump. The guy is destroying the US from the inside and making things less beneficial for the common man and things easier for the Rich.

Trump is trying to remove Income tax in favor of a higher sales tax. Guess who that benefits? The Rich. Someone making 11k or less a year was being taxed 10%, they would be paying 23% in sales tax instead which is costing them more money where as people like Trump who are taxed 37% on income tax only pay less with the sales tax increase and no income tax.

Trump has also cut several programs designed to help Americans such as disability programs, programs to help students get education and training for Educators. 50% of Americans have a literacy level of a 3rd grader or lower. This is only going to get worse.

Just a week into his term there were 3 plane crashes after decades of 0 incidents and some how thats the fault of DEI. Idiots eat that up because they dont even understand what DEI is. People act like they just grab people off the street with no qualifications and put them in a job. That isnt how it works. I dont like DEI because to me it seems like fighting Racism with Racism but at the end of the day, it gives qualified minorities an advantage when getting jobs.

Silly? Are you nuts?
- Stayin alive

I watched a hockey game after a long time last night. After watching Michkov completely lose his verve and confidence and getting systematically destroyed was just too depressing for me to continue watching. (Besides, I am still on a high with the Eagles. Honestly, there are times when I re-watch parts of the SuperBowl and there are tears streaming down my face. That team has never had it easy in all the decades of my fandom. At best, they won barely. Usually, they underachieved. I can still barely process this effortless annihilation).

Anyway, about yesterday, it was a very tight checking game, but I was disappointed at how un-cohesive the otherworldly talent in the Canadian forward line was. High skill teams like Tampa and Colorado in recent years have shown that skill can overcome grit if they play a certain way. Much is being made of Binnington and his issues, but to me looked like they desperately missed Makar. The entries of the Canadian team were always so awkward. And once they were in, they really did not seem to know what to do. There were shades of the Leafs in playoff mode. Like: the other team is defending really soundly, tight checking, angles covered but .... we are going to out-finesse them by looking for that perfect pass. The puck movement was too slow, people hung onto the puck for too long, and they never stretched out the D. I guess these players never practiced together and that is probably worse with individually gifted players.

Hopefully Makar will recover soon. I know he was scratched gameday, so hoping it is a temporary thing.

Reading the comments here makes it seem that the issues with current US policy stem from the temperament of 1 guy, that is Trump. And that it is not reflective of national policy. I would humbly disagree. I think Trump is reflective of a permanent change in what the US stands for today.

Consider what the US has done in the last 1 month:

1. Repeatedly threatened to assimilate Canada, using economic coercion. When Trump was asked what Canada could do to avoid tariffs, his exact words were "I don't know."

2. Threatened to put tariffs because of fentanyl coming across the border. The amount of fentanyl that came across from Canada is so ridiculously small that it would not fuel the addicts in Kensington for a week. Further, no matter how strict the border is, you are not going to be able to reduce such activity to zero, because no one in the history of mankind ever has. (In countries like Iran/Saudi Arabia etc, drug trafficking is punishable by torture and executions - it still goes on in much greater quantities than the 43 pathetic lbs of fentanyl seized in the US Canadian border in 2024).

2. Repeatedly threatened to take over Greenland, part of Denmark, a NATO country, and refused to rule out military force in doing so.

3. Asked for $500 billion worth of rare earths from Ukraine in exchange for protection (thus almost exactly being a mafia protection racket).

4. Revoked temporary protected status for Venezuelans and offered to take in white farmers from South Africa (Venezuela is far, far more violent today than what the white south African farmers face, which means the protection is not based on danger)

5. Repeatedly advocated for ethnic cleansing of Gaza, a place where Muslims (of many sorts) have lived continuously for 2000 years and replaced them with Israelis. And offered to built hotels over their homes.

6. Sent illegal deportees back to India, including women and children, who were shackled throughout the flights, including when going to the bathroom, leading to massive negative publicity in a country which the US is wooing hard to counter China.

7. Threatened to put 100% tariffs on Taiwanese chips, which are critical in the technology race. Not to speak of Taiwan's importance to China.

8. Publicly interfered with elections in West Europe and lectured them about what to do. Imagine if the German Chancellor came to the US and met with say the Green Party leader, and publicly scolded the US while addressing Congress for not giving equal tv time to 3rd party candidates?

Such policies do not stem from the vagaries of 1 man. This is what the US is today, or at least a substantial part.

A mental readjustment is necessary, and I am happy to see it has started everywhere. The political will hopefully follow, though it will take time.

I don’t blame Canadian’s for feeling some resentment. They love their country. Nothing wrong with that. It’s a great country.
- Dkos

I am happy they were booed. I hope it continues, and spreads throughout the world, extending to US tourists etc.

I spent some of my high school years abroad in Asia (dad taught ESL). It was interesting to see how much goodwill the US had, in many cliched ways. From D-day to Star Wars to Rambo to Rock and roll, it had already won the cold war in hearts before it was officially won.

Now, if you talk to the same folks around the world, and start talking about the US standing for values etc, the reaction, rightly, will be Bwahahahah!

Given the excessive trust the world had placed on the US being a force for good in the past 75 years, the world will need time to readjust to the new reality. Political leaders around the world will need to placate Trump. For the same reason that the tech guys need to do so. They have too much to lose and they must pay lip service. But the common people, the educated, the young, those who grow up with a certain image of the US, that image has changed, and it will surely but slowly manifest itself in national politics. This booing is the first step.

It is nice to see how united Canadians have become over this issue, and how little daylight there is between Poilievre, Freeland, Carney, Ford, even Danielle Smith - on such matters. It is good to see Europeans starting to think of a democratic world order without the US, and countries around the world start to grift and hedge their bets.

People forget that the modern notion of the US as a guarantor of world democracy, human rights, the so called "arsenal of democracy" etc is not what the US always was. Before WW2, it refused to take in Jewish refugees (who were returned to concentration camps, where they perished). It refused to take sides in Europe before Pearl Harbor.

There is something in the US national character that is isolationist and insular, even when it is immoral and short sighted to be so. It stems from our very poor basic education that never fully teaches Americans about the rest of the world. This is a reality. In the world order that emerges from this, I hope such realities will be more hedged against.

I am an American, but I am a human being long before I am an American, and if moral principles lead one way, and nationality the other, there is no particular dilemma for me, personally speaking.

This is what Rhett Butler said to Scarlett was a gotterdamerung, and while it is going to be disastrous for the US, it is in many ways really quite thrilling.

Trudeau is responsible for the current problem we now face with the US. To me that will be what he is remembered for.
- landros 2

That is absolute nonsense. You may dislike Trudeau and I am agnostic about him myself (though I think Mark Carney would be your best bet to take on Trump), but there is not a shred of evidence to what you say. Trump never linked his tariffs or his global expansionism to a single policy of the Trudeau years and definitely not the underfunding of NATO. As I wrote earlier, when he was asked what Canada can do to avoid tarriffs, he said: "I don't know."

Here is a succinct summary of the situation: Trump threatens to take over Canada because he wants to blackmail/coerce you to extremely one-sided deals regarding your natural resources. It is the way his movement thinks. They think of the world as a zero sum game between China and the US. Everything else: fairness, human rights, democracy, past ties etc. is roadkill. If you think this insulting etc is the worst of it, you just wait.

Not to be a Richard, but I have to say I take a personal pleasure in the current state of matters when I think of you and Hextall271. It was less than a year ago, and both of you thought guys like me had TDS. You explicitly said so, and Hextall271 thought that people anti Trump were watching too much tv (esp CNN).

Again, no offense, just the truth: You are a great guy but you are poorly informed. And the only way guys like you will realize the reality of the situation is from bitter lived experience.

Once the economic screws are turned on, and once you see the livelihood of your kids not just threatened but actually affected, and not just marginally but in sharp, absolute terms, then and only then will you accept the sweeping change that is occurring in the world.

Do your own research.

As far as the tariffs, did Canada and Mexico decide to reevaluate and change some things on the border to avoid said tariffs for now? In fact, yes they did, so in that respect the threat of the tariffs as benefitted.

Who's incompetence?
- Striiker

Have you yourself?

Here is the EU versus US aid to Ukraine, in absolute terms and relative (in percentage of GDP)

Did you ever wonder why other leaders who have that mindset are criticized? Orban in Hungary does not seem to be well liked by the rest of the world. I guess my basic point is if a leader of a country is "liked and respected' by the supposed rest of the world, I would be rather concerned what direction my country is going as a citizen in today's environment.
- Trox88

Have you ever bothered to investigate why he is not liked?

Hungary under Orban is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe. The country is ruled by an oligarchy like Russia. You need to have personal access to that circle to get anything done. The press is like the Russian press: state owned, and spewing government propaganda constantly. The entire country has been parceled out to 1 party: Fidesz. Broadcasting rights, industry, arms procurement : everything is owned by his cronies. All judges are appointed by the political party. There is no independent watchdog, no autonomous body.

Fair share as in what they contribute to nato. Other countries send peace keeping troops to Ukraine, the US will be sending none.

Canada will lose more on Tariffs. Who is Canada's number 1 consumer of gas, the US. We could simply not purchase.

Is it fair that other countries charge more for a product than we can?

Is it fair that other countries can sell products in the US but we can't sell products in some countries?

What does Canada have that the US can't live without? Who needs who more.
- WhiskeyMan

And how is this relevant to tariffs on Canada, to pick an example? You may recall that there is a free trade agreement with Mexico/US/Canada. Signed (renegotiated) by ..gee, Trump 45!


There was never any truth on all this "unfairness in world trade etc." The reason, for example, that Japan sells more cars in the US and US sells few in Japan is not because of tariffs or restrictions (there are none towards US cars in Japan). It is because Japanese cars are better.

The US set up the world trading system. It competed and in many cases, lost fair and square.

It now wants to rig the rules to cheat because it is strong and powerful. That is all there is to it.

That is absolute nonsense. You may dislike Trudeau and I am agnostic about him myself (though I think Mark Carney would be your best bet to take on Trump), but there is not a shred of evidence to what you say. Trump never linked his tariffs or his global expansionism to a single policy of the Trudeau years and definitely not the underfunding of NATO. As I wrote earlier, when he was asked what Canada can do to avoid tarriffs, he said: "I don't know."

Here is a succinct summary of the situation: Trump threatens to take over Canada because he wants to blackmail/coerce you to extremely one-sided deals regarding your natural resources. It is the way his movement thinks. They think of the world as a zero sum game between China and the US. Everything else: fairness, human rights, democracy, past ties etc. is roadkill. If you think this insulting etc is the worst of it, you just wait.

Not to be a Richard, but I have to say I take a personal pleasure in the current state of matters when I think of you and Hextall271. It was less than a year ago, and both of you thought guys like me had TDS. You explicitly said so, and Hextall271 thought that people anti Trump were watching too much tv (esp CNN).

Again, no offense, just the truth: You are a great guy but you are poorly informed. And the only way guys like you will realize the reality of the situation is from bitter lived experience.

Once the economic screws are turned on, and once you see the livelihood of your kids not just threatened but actually affected, and not just marginally but in sharp, absolute terms, then and only then will you accept the sweeping change that is occurring in the world.
- PT21

You need to actually research before making a Comment like this….no I don’t like him, but that stems from his pandering to the far left while ignoring trade and commerce…it’s great you want to provide free dental now to everyone, as I’m sure every country would….but then don’t cry poor on the world stage and fail to live up to the agreements our governments of the past made…..continually taxing the living shiit out of people while allowing our health care system to become falter to new lows.
Canada used to be about a hand up….now it’s about hand outs.
Do I think a trade war is stupid for both sides? Yes I do, but now as you put it, the economic screws are in deed being turned and the guy that’s been in charge for the last decade has allowed us to be put here….thats what we get for electing a drama teacher with a political name.