Why Marner can't transition to center has always boggled my mind... Marner 2C, Tavares 3C.
- gravyface

We said the same thing about Kessel.

I mean a legit C like Schenn would be good change, they don't have anyone for that 3C spot.

If Tre can have upgrades come in for Holmberg, Timmins, Robertson, ect he will do it.

I mean it is pretty obvious at this point Timmins can't be your 3RD in a healthy playoff lineup.
- Santo_44

Tre will make a change for sure and ya timmins has dropped off.

For tonight, we are all Albertans.

Unfortunately now, you have wannabe fascists and political trolls in here just to post made up nonsense, stir up poop or whine about the government. Most dont have common ground with these people, except for other than wannabe fascist and other political trolls (about 3 or 4 people- one of which is most likely an alt of the other)
- Fakepartofme

Unfortunately now, you have wannabe Marxists and TDS trolls in here just to post made up nonsense, stir up poop or whine about Trump. Most dont have common ground with these people, except for other than wannabe Marxists and other TDS trolls (about 3 or 4 people- one of which is most likely an alt of the other)

Pot, meet kettle.

We said the same thing about Kessel.
- Atomic Wedgie

Did we? Were were drunk? Marner can play D for ffs, he's a cerebral two-way forward, Kessel was a one dimensional sniper.

They werent saying that. They were saying they would have to include one.

They wouldn't include Cowan thats for sure lol. 1st and Grebs maybe.
- Santo_44

And I quote:

"The price tag on a potential Schenn deal is believed to be significant, potentially requiring the Leafs to put together a package that includes an attractive draft pick (such as their first-round pick in 2026) plus one of their three most sought-after prospects – Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten and Ben Danford – and perhaps Nikita Grebenkin, too. There would likely be an additional price to be paid as a sweetener to make the money work on Schenn’s contract."

1st round pick + Cowan, Minten or Danford ++ (Grebenkin and a likely sweetener)

That folks is Dougie negotiating through the media and is a patently absurd ask.

And I quote:

"The price tag on a potential Schenn deal is believed to be significant, potentially requiring the Leafs to put together a package that includes an attractive draft pick (such as their first-round pick in 2026) plus one of their three most sought-after prospects – Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten and Ben Danford – and perhaps Nikita Grebenkin, too. There would likely be an additional price to be paid as a sweetener to make the money work on Schenn’s contract."

1st round pick + Cowan, Minten or Danford ++ (Grebenkin and a likely sweetener)

That folks is Dougie negotiating through the media and is a patently absurd ask.
- gravyface

I mean yeah they can mention Cowan if they want, but they wouldn't trade him in that deal.

Also its not out of the ordinary for GMs to use the media, especially Toronto media to get out a large asking price. Schenn has a NMC so they are using their only tactic they have and thats a high ask.

1st and Minten would be the high end they would get along with some other meh pieces. Also depends on how much they retain.

And I quote:

"The price tag on a potential Schenn deal is believed to be significant, potentially requiring the Leafs to put together a package that includes an attractive draft pick (such as their first-round pick in 2026) plus one of their three most sought-after prospects – Easton Cowan, Fraser Minten and Ben Danford – and perhaps Nikita Grebenkin, too. There would likely be an additional price to be paid as a sweetener to make the money work on Schenn’s contract."

1st round pick + Cowan, Minten or Danford ++ (Grebenkin and a likely sweetener)

That folks is Dougie negotiating through the media and is a patently absurd ask.
- gravyface

If a GM is going to blow up his team, he's always going to expect the world for his veterans, especially if there are multiple teams involved. The big ask plus the bidding war is what he expects.

If the Leafs gave up their entire draft and prospect capital but it brought in Parayko and Schenn, I think both teams could claim victory.

Matthews should be placed on LTIR not only for the deadline cap space but also to guarantee he's 100% for the playoffs.

1st, Cowan, Danford, Kampf, Robertson, Jarnkrok whatever else it is for Parayko and Schenn makes sense. Both players are not UFAs which means the Leafs get more for their picks and prospects, multiple kicks at the can. Both players are proven winners under Berube. Both players fill significant needs for the Leafs.

I look at what Vegas did multiple times where they seemingly sold the farm but it worked. They won a Cup and most of the players they acquired, they retained. The Leafs have spent these types of assets for pending UFAs and it didn't work out (ROR for example). Maybe it's time the Leafs sold the farm but retained what comes back the other way for once.

Unfortunately now, you have wannabe Marxists and TDS trolls in here just to post made up nonsense, stir up poop or whine about Trump. Most dont have common ground with these people, except for other than wannabe Marxists and other TDS trolls (about 3 or 4 people- one of which is most likely an alt of the other)

Pot, meet kettle.
- Rare_Jewel

Nope.
Thats all you and everyone knows it.

1st, Cowan, Danford, Kampf, Robertson, Jarnkrok whatever else it is for Parayko and Schenn makes sense. Both players are not UFAs which means the Leafs get more for their picks and prospects, multiple kicks at the can. Both players are proven winners under Berube. Both players fill significant needs for the Leafs.
- Rare_Jewel

Might as well blow our load and try to make a deep run this year. 1st round pick could work out, or could be a bust. I'm not sold on Cowan. Danford is going to be a stud, might hurt to lose him. We'd miss Kampf's defense, but Schenn is an upgrade offensively, obviously. Robertson's value is at an all time high. Jarnkrok hasn't played for us this year, so nobody would notice his impact or lack thereof.

Parayko is a stud, I've wanted him for years. Not sure how that contract ages, but go big now, this is the year. Getting a huge impact Dman like him improves the whole D corps.

I mean a legit C like Schenn would be good change, they don't have anyone for that 3C spot.

If Tre can have upgrades come in for Holmberg, Timmins, Robertson, ect he will do it.

I mean it is pretty obvious at this point Timmins can't be your 3RD in a healthy playoff lineup.
- Santo_44

I’m not sure I’m comfortable with JT and Schenn in the 2C and 3C spots for about $13M for the next 3 years.

Nope.
Thats all you and everyone knows it.
- Fakepartofme

You, among many other left wing locks around here, have TDS and it's obvious.

Might as well blow our load and try to make a deep run this year. 1st round pick could work out, or could be a bust. I'm not sold on Cowan. Danford is going to be a stud, might hurt to lose him. We'd miss Kampf's defense, but Schenn is an upgrade offensively, obviously. Robertson's value is at an all time high. Jarnkrok hasn't played for us this year, so nobody would notice his impact or lack thereof.

Parayko is a stud, I've wanted him for years. Not sure how that contract ages, but go big now, this is the year. Getting a huge impact Dman like him improves the whole D corps.
- Whipper

If the Leafs are okay with having Tanev signed until the end of time, Parayko shouldn't be a problem.

It's a big price to pay but you get multiple kicks at the can, at least 3 years including this one. That's a pretty big window compared to the usual UFA rental the Leafs always get burned on.

You, among many other left wing locks around here, have TDS and it's obvious.
- Rare_Jewel

A lot of people have AIDS in here too.

Might as well blow our load and try to make a deep run this year. 1st round pick could work out, or could be a bust. I'm not sold on Cowan. Danford is going to be a stud, might hurt to lose him. We'd miss Kampf's defense, but Schenn is an upgrade offensively, obviously. Robertson's value is at an all time high. Jarnkrok hasn't played for us this year, so nobody would notice his impact or lack thereof.

Parayko is a stud, I've wanted him for years. Not sure how that contract ages, but go big now, this is the year. Getting a huge impact Dman like him improves the whole D corps.
- Whipper

Nylander, Robertson, Cowan, Kampf, Jarnkrok, 1st for Parayko, Schenn, Buchnevich, Neighbours

Aw man Gene Hackman

Gonna watch Get Shorty

I’m not sure I’m comfortable with JT and Schenn in the 2C and 3C spots for about $13M for the next 3 years.
- Canada Cup

I am.

Would be one of the best 1,2,3 punches in the NHL.

I am.

Would be one of the best 1,2,3 punches in the NHL.
- Santo_44

I am too. Player decline for skilled guys is not nearly as bad as it is for other roles (shutdown D, power forwards, etc.) and the cap is going way up. We need stability at center.

I just don't want to give up the farm for B. Schenn. If it was Parayko and B. Schenn, different story.

Aw man Gene Hackman

Gonna watch Get Shorty
- Zezel

Unforgiven
Hoosiers
The Royal Tenenbaums

I am too. Player decline for skilled guys is not nearly as bad as it is for other roles (shutdown D, power forwards, etc.) and the cap is going way up. We need stability at center.

I just don't want to give up the farm for B. Schenn. If it was Parayko and B. Schenn, different story.
- gravyface

I don't think they would be giving up the farm. And If they can get guys like Tropochenko and Kessel in the deal I think that pays off huge.

C's are hard to get. you have to pay 9M in FA for a Bennett or you develop your own. Minten is years away from even potentially being able to be that stud 3C in playoffs.

Schenn would be awesome. As long as they do not deal Cowan.

I wonder if the 2027 1st has more value here considering there is more uncertainty.