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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Friday @ 3:01 PM ET
Long and short is we will probably need to move on from Pettersson and Boeser at this point. Issue is will MNGT provide Hughes the team he needs to win here? Hughes is literally a top 10 player in the league now and need to keep the guy happy and wanting to stay.
- LordHumungous

Hughes is top 5 in the league.

The only names that you could argue are better would be Makar(dead even IMO) Mackinnon, Draisatl and McDavid.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Friday @ 3:07 PM ET
I don't think he'll be traded, but if he is, it'll be for another guy who's struggling, like Mason McTavish. There's always a GM out there looking to make a deal and there's always players out there who are struggling.

Petey's salary is the big caveat but with a rising cap, if you read hockey news, teams are ready, willing, and able to spend going forward. Someone will take a chance on him, He's only 26.

- Pacificgem


You Crack me up with your hickey IQ, or lack thereof. Comparing a player who just turned 22 and coming off an ELC, to a player who is/was adored by the dumbest hockey fans in the world, making 11.6 per.
Any GM who would trade for Pouty is dumber than most Canucks fans.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Friday @ 3:08 PM ET
Hughes is top 5 in the league.

The only names that you could argue are better would be Makar(dead even IMO) Mackinnon, Draisatl and McDavid.

- Retinalz


Should get a boatload for him
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Friday @ 3:17 PM ET
You Crack me up with your hickey IQ, or lack thereof. Comparing a player who just turned 22 and coming off an ELC, to a player who is/was adored by the dumbest hockey fans in the world, making 11.6 per.
Any GM who would trade for Pouty is dumber than most Canucks fans.

- Reubenkincade


Ah yes, Mason McTavish and his whopping career high of 43 points in a season.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Friday @ 3:18 PM ET
One step forward, two steps back.
- Marwood

Not entirely accurate. Remember how the Canucks missed the playoffs for a decade? At least they're in a wildcard spot with absolutely everything going wrong
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Friday @ 3:20 PM ET
Hughes is top 5 in the league.

The only names that you could argue are better would be Makar(dead even IMO) Mackinnon, Draisatl and McDavid.

- Retinalz

Hughes has been unquestionably better than Makar for 2 years now. He's top 3 on a good day, top 4 at worst.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Friday @ 3:20 PM ET
You Crack me up with your hickey IQ, or lack thereof. Comparing a player who just turned 22 and coming off an ELC, to a player who is/was adored by the dumbest hockey fans in the world, making 11.6 per.
Any GM who would trade for Pouty is dumber than most Canucks fans.

- Reubenkincade

It's just an example of another young player who's struggling, and it wouldn't be a one-for-one deal in that case, clearly, but I know everything has to be explained to you like you're six years old.

There's cap to be considered, there's organizational depth to be considered, there's many things to consider when asking why a team would make a deal for a guy who's struggling.

But rest assured, when a young guy like Petey scores 102 points at 24 and he's the 9th fastest active player to reach 400 NHL points, along with all the side-show organizational crap that's gone on in Vancouver, someone will say we can fix that kid.....guaranteed.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Friday @ 3:20 PM ET
Should get a boatload for him
- Reubenkincade

You don't trade players of his value.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Friday @ 3:21 PM ET
I don't think he'll be traded, but if he is, it'll be for another guy who's struggling, like Mason McTavish. There's always a GM out there looking to make a deal and there's always players out there who are struggling.

Petey's salary is the big caveat but with a rising cap, if you read hockey news, teams are ready, willing, and able to spend going forward. Someone will take a chance on him, He's only 26.

- Pacificgem


One has to wonder what the Canucks would look like if they traded Miller instead of Bo. Not that Bo is the better player, but the complete fallout and drama since then... probably could have got a very similar return and still gotten Hronek.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Friday @ 3:26 PM ET
Sure hope they realize they need to be sellers
- Reubenkincade

I'm pretty sure they know they need to be sellers, it's just hard when your hands are tied.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Friday @ 3:26 PM ET
One has to wonder what the Canucks would look like if they traded Miller instead of Bo. Not that Bo is the better player, but the complete fallout and drama since then... probably could have got a very similar return and still gotten Hronek.
- NewYorkNuck

Bo probably would have vibed well with Tocchet
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Friday @ 3:31 PM ET
Ah yes, Mason McTavish and his whopping career high of 43 points in a season.
- NewYorkNuck



Reuby loves McTavish so he thinks he's worth more than EP40, if they were making the same amount of money, EP40 is actually currently worth more than McTavish. Petey's struggling but even with his struggles he's still better than McTavish. Who I like as well.

Rumblings in Anaheim they're not happy with their progress despite all these good draft picks, they may make a deal with one of them to try and progress things. Just speculation. They also have 16 million in cap space. As I said to the six year old, lots of thing to consider when a team makes a deal like that.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Friday @ 3:39 PM ET
You don't trade players of his value.
- NorthNuck


Sure
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Friday @ 3:41 PM ET
Ah yes, Mason McTavish and his whopping career high of 43 points in a season.
- NewYorkNuck


Ya, not sure why Lefty used him as an example, Dylan Cozens would have been a better example, but Lefty isn't the sharpest tool in the shed
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Friday @ 3:43 PM ET


Reuby loves McTavish so he thinks he's worth more than EP40, if they were making the same amount of money, EP40 is actually currently worth more than McTavish. Petey's struggling but even with his struggles he's still better than McTavish. Who I like as well.

Rumblings in Anaheim they're not happy with their progress despite all these good draft picks, they may make a deal with one of them to try and progress things. Just speculation. They also have 16 million in cap space. As I said to the six year old, lots of thing to consider when a team makes a deal like that.

- Pacificgem


Go Ducks Go

Go Columbus Go

Go Flames Go
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Friday @ 3:46 PM ET
Sure
- Reubenkincade

They walk as free agents.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Friday @ 3:50 PM ET
They walk as free agents.
- Marwood

He's signed for 2 more years, a lot can change in that time
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Friday @ 3:53 PM ET
Ya, not sure why Lefty used him as an example, Dylan Cozens would have been a better example, but Lefty isn't the sharpest tool in the shed
- Reubenkincade

You're right, that is a better example, I just had McTavish on my brain because I'm reading about Anaheim and the fact the Ducks would entertain moving him as he's been a disappointment.

Also, just because you like him, doesn't make him more valuable. Teams potentially trading for McTavish will ask the same questions that are being asked of Petey, why is a 3rd overall pick with a good tool kit struggling so much in his third season. At this point he's a diminishing asset.

Petey on the other hand, has proven he's very capable of already being what Anaheim hopes McTavish will one day be...that's why teams with a ton of cap will take a chance on Petey. Despite his salary.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Friday @ 3:55 PM ET

#freequinnhughes
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Friday @ 3:57 PM ET
Go Ducks Go

Go Columbus Go

Go Flames Go

- Reubenkincade


I didn't think it was possible but I think you might cheer for the same amount of teams as Lefty. That's kinda embarrassing.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Friday @ 3:58 PM ET
You're right, that is a better example, I just had McTavish on my brain because I'm reading about Anaheim and the fact the Ducks would entertain moving him as he's been a disappointment (McTavish).

Also, just because you like him, doesn't make him more valuable. Teams potentially trading for McTavish will ask the same questions that are being asked of Petey, why is a 3rd overall pick with a good tool kit struggling so much in his third season. At this point he's a diminishing asset.

Petey on the other hand, has proven he's very capable of already being what Anaheim hopes McTavish will one day be...that's why teams with a ton of cap will take a chance on Petey. Despite his salary.

- Pacificgem


I hope you are right, but that is highly unlikely, you being right
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Friday @ 4:15 PM ET
I'm pretty sure they know they need to be sellers, it's just hard when your hands are tied.
- A_SteamingLombardi


They have done a pretty good job of tying their own hands
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Friday @ 4:18 PM ET
I didn't think it was possible but I think you might cheer for the same amount of teams as Lefty. That's kinda embarrassing.
- Load Management



When the team you start cheering for since 1970, has sucked, it makes it easier to cheer for some teams with players I actually like
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Friday @ 4:20 PM ET
I didn't think it was possible but I think you might cheer for the same amount of teams as Lefty. That's kinda embarrassing.
- Load Management

Don’t forget Boston too, everyone but the Canucks
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Friday @ 4:23 PM ET
You don't trade players of his value.
- NorthNuck

This. There’s a very good reason you rarely see players this good move.
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