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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Friday @ 1:49 PM ET
Dobson a Canadian!

Edit: Slow Typer gif.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Friday @ 1:50 PM ET
Interesting that suggestions are he was willing to take less money to leave
- keaner17


Yeah although it made total sense for him to shoot for the moon. He was in high demand. That’s the recipe to pay up
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Friday @ 1:54 PM ET
Interesting that suggestions are he was willing to take less money to leave
- keaner17


Maybe he and Roy didn’t see eye to eye.
There’s also the fact that Lou loved Dobson.

keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Friday @ 1:54 PM ET
16, 17 and Heineman is the word
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Friday @ 1:56 PM ET
16, 17 and Heinaman is the word
- keaner17


Yes, so do you use those or some to go get The pick that you believe Hagens will be available with?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Friday @ 1:57 PM ET
16, 17 and Heineman is the word
- keaner17


Not bad for a 12th overall. Obviously nothing guaranteed but three assets coming back are adding fuel to the fire of Darche getting in the top 10.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Friday @ 1:57 PM ET
Yes, so do you use those or some to go get The pick that you believe Hagens will be available with?
- nyisles7

Im really worried the Flyers are locked in on Hagens at 6. So Im not sure where that leaves us
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Friday @ 1:58 PM ET
Yes, so do you use those or some to go get The pick that you believe Hagens will be available with?
- nyisles7



Certainly looks like that’s what they’re doing. Makes sense to me.
Jersey sales will be through the roof.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Friday @ 1:59 PM ET
Not bad for a 12th overall. Obviously nothing guaranteed but three assets coming back are adding fuel to the fire of Darche getting in the top 10.
- kindlyrick

Heinemen is sorta 'eh'. Could be a decent player. Hes likely a 3rd liner at best
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Friday @ 2:01 PM ET
Heinemen is sorta 'eh'. Could be a decent player. Hes likely a 3rd liner at best
- keaner17


Agreed but he’s Swedish…..never know with those Swedes. Could end up being a consistent secondary scoring guy. Add to that the back to back firsts and we have added assets to make more moves. Interesting to say the least. Lou woulda signed Dobson to 11 per and given his parents a job with the isles. Ha
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Friday @ 2:05 PM ET
Frank Seravalli

#NHL team draft value charts indicate that #isles packaging Nos. 16 and 17 overall are roughly worth the equivalent of one pick between No. 4-6 overall.

However, since everyone knows the target, there is an emotional and leverage premium that won't make it easy for NYI
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Friday @ 2:06 PM ET
Agreed but he’s Swedish…..never know with those Swedes. Could end up being a consistent secondary scoring guy. Add to that the back to back firsts and we have added assets to make more moves. Interesting to say the least. Lou woulda signed Dobson to 11 per and given his parents a job with the isles. Ha
- kindlyrick

Again, I think we have to remember that mid first round picks in this year's draft carry very little value compared to other years. If we want Hagens, we'll have to add something/someone else to that mix with decent value.
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Friday @ 2:09 PM ET
Frank Seravalli

#NHL team draft value charts indicate that #isles packaging Nos. 16 and 17 overall are roughly worth the equivalent of one pick between No. 4-6 overall.

However, since everyone knows the target, there is an emotional and leverage premium that won't make it easy for NYI

- kindlyrick

This will be the problem with doing it. Not sure what else they can include at this point to sweeten the deal.

Don't love Heinemen much, but he'll be good depth
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Friday @ 2:13 PM ET
If they want Hagens, I would think Utah or Boston have to be the targets while on the clock. That said, the Flyers really need a center and have the 6th pick
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Friday @ 2:14 PM ET
This will be the problem with doing it. Not sure what else they can include at this point to sweeten the deal.

Don't love Heinemen much, but he'll be good depth

- Gabe Athaus



They’re reporting the value of 16 and 17 combined gets you between 4-6 so the stars are seeming to align.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Friday @ 2:16 PM ET
This will be the problem with doing it. Not sure what else they can include at this point to sweeten the deal.

Don't love Heinemen much, but he'll be good depth

- Gabe Athaus

Maybe an upgrade from Engvall?
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Friday @ 2:20 PM ET
They’re reporting the value of 16 and 17 combined gets you between 4-6 so the stats are seeming to align.
- kindlyrick

The possibility is certainly there, it'll be interesting to watch tonight
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Friday @ 2:21 PM ET
Maybe an upgrade from Engvall?
- JohnScammo

I mean he could be a great bottom-6 winger for all I know. But it's still a bottom-6 winger

All good, let's see where it goes. It'll be a lot of fun.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Friday @ 2:24 PM ET
The possibility is certainly there, it'll be interesting to watch tonight
- Gabe Athaus


For sure. It was reposted from Stefen Rosner a report that Darche used the Habs offer and took it to Columbus to better. That sets you up for a possible overpayment/fleece. I like it.

Tonight will be interesting for sure. The dealings aren’t over
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Friday @ 2:26 PM ET
For sure. It was reposted from Stefen Rosner a report that Darche used the Habs offer and took it to Columbus to better. That sets you up for a possible overpayment/fleece. I like it.

Tonight will be interesting for sure. The dealings aren’t over

- kindlyrick


Aaron Portzline
@Aportzline
13m
Told #Isles wanted both #CBJ 1st rd picks (No. 14, No. 20) tonight, a roster player (Dmitri Voronkov was reported by The Fourth Period) and another piece (a prospect? a later pick?) in exchange for D Noah Dobson.

They wanted them to beat the #Canadiens offer, and #CBJ wouldn't.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Friday @ 2:28 PM ET
David Pagnotta

Islanders remain active. In addition to all their action, I’m told some teams have called the Islanders about Mat Barzal, including Utah and Vancouver. Don’t get the sense anything is close right now, but some clubs have inquired.
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Friday @ 2:33 PM ET
David Pagnotta

Islanders remain active. In addition to all their action, I’m told some teams have called the Islanders about Mat Barzal, including Utah and Vancouver. Don’t get the sense anything is close right now, but some clubs have inquired.

- kindlyrick

Nice to at least have some news/rumors about the Isles again now that the Lou Lockdown has ended
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Friday @ 2:34 PM ET
David Pagnotta

Islanders remain active. In addition to all their action, I’m told some teams have called the Islanders about Mat Barzal, including Utah and Vancouver. Don’t get the sense anything is close right now, but some clubs have inquired.

- kindlyrick

Pretty sure Darche directly told both Barzal and Horvat that they weren't being traded
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Friday @ 2:35 PM ET
Nice to at least have some news/rumors about the Isles again now that the Lou Lockdown has ended
- Gabe Athaus



Was thinking the same thing. Hockey aside I can’t believe we’re getting actual rumors
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Friday @ 2:36 PM ET
Was thinking the same thing. Hockey aside I can’t believe we’re getting actual rumors
- kindlyrick

Stefen Rosner
@stefen_rosner
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1m
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@PierreVLeBrun
previously reported that GM Mathieu Darche told Mathew Barzal and Bo Horvat that they were not getting moved. I know VAN has wanted Barzal, the BC native, for forever.

Would be stunned if Barzal got traded...stunned.
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