Brock had 2gs tonight in 5-1 win over Sens. Sorry ses.
- streaks

Not bad by Private Nelson.

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/478448/gleb-veremyev

https://eyesonisles.com/t...leb-veremyev-01jpvb8xk4p5

Bridgeport signing. Add some youth and depth to the team.

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/478448/gleb-veremyev

https://eyesonisles.com/t...leb-veremyev-01jpvb8xk4p5

Bridgeport signing. Add some youth and depth to the team.
- Nfdbulldawg

Always good to add free assets. Maybe the kid carves out a bottom six role down the line like Gatcomb has.

Always good to add free assets. Maybe the kid carves out a bottom six role down the line like Gatcomb has.
- eichiefs9

He’s going to have to climb over 15 other bottom 6 kids to get any playing time.

fyi ovechkin is 7 away and the caps play the islanders in 8 games. strong possibility he breaks the record on 4/6

He’s going to have to climb over 15 other bottom 6 kids to get any playing time.
- Cptmjl

He'll probably be at least a year or two away, but I'm always a fan of adding talent of any kind into the pipeline. If he's a good 4C then it's a win. Anything more is a bonus. Bottom six, especially the 4th line, should be cheap and lots of competition for jobs should only help keep everyone on their toes and playing hard.

fyi ovechkin is 7 away and the caps play the islanders in 8 games. strong possibility he breaks the record on 4/6
- batteryjackson

The odds are somewhat in the Islanders favor, they play twice at UBS in 10 days. 6th and 15th

Weird situation to be in. The isles are now competing for the wild card and Lou was adamant about not selling sans Nelson's “must” trade which the isles made out big. Lou himself said anyone can win if you make the playoffs, yet he didn’t add anything with Barzal on LTIR. Teams who are serious about winning a cup use that Vegas and Tampa loophole before the playoffs. Something doesn’t add up. Lou neither bought nor sold….he stood pat while touting his belief in this roster. I’m a little confused.

He'll probably be at least a year or two away, but I'm always a fan of adding talent of any kind into the pipeline. If he's a good 4C then it's a win. Anything more is a bonus. Bottom six, especially the 4th line, should be cheap and lots of competition for jobs should only help keep everyone on their toes and playing hard.
- eichiefs9

Yeah of course was a joke for the most part. Need to add some more top tier young talent to the pipeline which was the point.

Weird situation to be in. The isles are now competing for the wild card and Lou was adamant about not selling sans Nelson's “must” trade which the isles made out big. Lou himself said anyone can win if you make the playoffs, yet he didn’t add anything with Barzal on LTIR. Teams who are serious about winning a cup use that Vegas and Tampa loophole before the playoffs. Something doesn’t add up. Lou neither bought nor sold….he stood pat while touting his belief in this roster. I’m a little confused.
- kindlyrick

It's tough to get a read on this team. They trade Nelson and you think they are done, and they win a couple and are in the mix. Coaches and players have to try to win and make the playoffs. If the team makes the playoffs great. Changes still need to happen in the offseason.

Weird situation to be in. The isles are now competing for the wild card and Lou was adamant about not selling sans Nelson's “must” trade which the isles made out big. Lou himself said anyone can win if you make the playoffs, yet he didn’t add anything with Barzal on LTIR. Teams who are serious about winning a cup use that Vegas and Tampa loophole before the playoffs. Something doesn’t add up. Lou neither bought nor sold….he stood pat while touting his belief in this roster. I’m a little confused.
- kindlyrick

He traded Nelson. The teams best 2 way center. Barzal is out. You, I remember said we should sell everyone. Now you female doging because Lou didn’t add? To add you typically have to trade picks or prospects. I’m confused in your post actually. Unless of course you knew the Isles would be in this position post trade deadline?
I don’t think Lou has the crystal ball you have.
I think he basically went with what he had without losing picks or prospects. If the make the POs great. He knows there are changes to be made.

Weird situation to be in. The isles are now competing for the wild card and Lou was adamant about not selling sans Nelson's “must” trade which the isles made out big. Lou himself said anyone can win if you make the playoffs, yet he didn’t add anything with Barzal on LTIR. Teams who are serious about winning a cup use that Vegas and Tampa loophole before the playoffs. Something doesn’t add up. Lou neither bought nor sold….he stood pat while touting his belief in this roster. I’m a little confused.
- kindlyrick

He did what he needed to, in selling Nelson, and profited big time. I think it would have benefited them (in the long run) to have sold on another player or two, but that one has been discussed plenty by now.

They were a highly-unlikely bubble team and now they're a slightly-less unlikely bubble team. Most of the time teams like that don't really add a whole lot, if anything, at the deadline. Jackets are a good example. All they added was Luke Kunin this year.

I think Lou was smart not to add anyone. Even if they do squeak into the playoffs the odds are immensely stacked against them, so spending assets to maybe win one extra game isn't the best use of them as far as I'm concerned. He left it up to the current roster. If they keep playing well and collecting points, they get to play some playoff games. If they don't, Isles will end up with a better pick. They're in kind of a neutral situation so a (mostly) neutral deadline makes sense to me.

He did what he needed to, in selling Nelson, and profited big time. I think it would have benefited them (in the long run) to have sold on another player or two, but that one has been discussed plenty by now.

They were a highly-unlikely bubble team and now they're a slightly-less unlikely bubble team. Most of the time teams like that don't really add a whole lot, if anything, at the deadline. Jackets are a good example. All they added was Luke Kunin this year.

I think Lou was smart not to add anyone. Even if they do squeak into the playoffs the odds are immensely stacked against them, so spending assets to maybe win one extra game isn't the best use of them as far as I'm concerned. He left it up to the current roster. If they keep playing well and collecting points, they get to play some playoff games. If they don't, Isles will end up with a better pick. They're in kind of a neutral situation so a (mostly) neutral deadline makes sense to me.
- eichiefs9

Well said!

He did what he needed to, in selling Nelson, and profited big time. I think it would have benefited them (in the long run) to have sold on another player or two, but that one has been discussed plenty by now.

They were a highly-unlikely bubble team and now they're a slightly-less unlikely bubble team. Most of the time teams like that don't really add a whole lot, if anything, at the deadline. Jackets are a good example. All they added was Luke Kunin this year.

I think Lou was smart not to add anyone. Even if they do squeak into the playoffs the odds are immensely stacked against them, so spending assets to maybe win one extra game isn't the best use of them as far as I'm concerned. He left it up to the current roster. If they keep playing well and collecting points, they get to play some playoff games. If they don't, Isles will end up with a better pick. They're in kind of a neutral situation so a (mostly) neutral deadline makes sense to me.
- eichiefs9

I think trading Palms would have made sense. I'm glad picks or prospects were not moved. I would still look to move Lee and JGP in the offseason.

He did what he needed to, in selling Nelson, and profited big time. I think it would have benefited them (in the long run) to have sold on another player or two, but that one has been discussed plenty by now.

They were a highly-unlikely bubble team and now they're a slightly-less unlikely bubble team. Most of the time teams like that don't really add a whole lot, if anything, at the deadline. Jackets are a good example. All they added was Luke Kunin this year.

I think Lou was smart not to add anyone. Even if they do squeak into the playoffs the odds are immensely stacked against them, so spending assets to maybe win one extra game isn't the best use of them as far as I'm concerned. He left it up to the current roster. If they keep playing well and collecting points, they get to play some playoff games. If they don't, Isles will end up with a better pick. They're in kind of a neutral situation so a (mostly) neutral deadline makes sense to me.
- eichiefs9

Adding anyone would have been dumb. Thankful he didn’t. If this team makes the playoffs which still the margins are slim imo they aren’t doing anything. Even before Barzal’s injury and Nelson’s trade this team isn’t competing in the playoffs. That becomes exponentially more difficult without them obviously.

I think trading Palms would have made sense. I'm glad picks or prospects were not moved. I would still look to move Lee and JGP in the offseason.
- ses111

You think? It was perplexing he wasn’t traded.

He traded Nelson. The teams best 2 way center. Barzal is out. You, I remember said we should sell everyone. Now you female doging because Lou didn’t add? To add you typically have to trade picks or prospects. I’m confused in your post actually. Unless of course you knew the Isles would be in this position post trade deadline?
I don’t think Lou has the crystal ball you have.
I think he basically went with what he had without losing picks or prospects. If the make the POs great. He knows there are changes to be made.
- nyisles7

I think you’re blending what I said vs my rhetorical criticism of Lou. Lou said this team has a shot at the post season and would not dismantle the roster. He had to trade Nelson which was a great trade. If he truly believed in this roster why wouldn’t he add at the deadline with the cap space of Barzal being on LTIR.

With the price the isles got for Nelson and other league trades…..we saw a sellers market. I still feel the isles should have launched anything at a premium and used picks and prospects at the draft to re tool. The point of my post was that Lou ultimately contradicted himself. He actions did not represent what he said.

He did what he needed to, in selling Nelson, and profited big time. I think it would have benefited them (in the long run) to have sold on another player or two, but that one has been discussed plenty by now.

They were a highly-unlikely bubble team and now they're a slightly-less unlikely bubble team. Most of the time teams like that don't really add a whole lot, if anything, at the deadline. Jackets are a good example. All they added was Luke Kunin this year.

I think Lou was smart not to add anyone. Even if they do squeak into the playoffs the odds are immensely stacked against them, so spending assets to maybe win one extra game isn't the best use of them as far as I'm concerned. He left it up to the current roster. If they keep playing well and collecting points, they get to play some playoff games. If they don't, Isles will end up with a better pick. They're in kind of a neutral situation so a (mostly) neutral deadline makes sense to me.
- eichiefs9

Where I think we differ is the lack of selling at a premium. Just looking at the Nelson trade, we saw the isles benefit immensely. For an isles team who has struggled to sign UFA’s adding assets is what they need to do in order to acquire top end talent. Not trading Palmieri or JGP to acquire extra assets was the wrong move. Both Palmieri and JGP are players that can be obtained. First liners like Brady Tkatchuk could only be had by launching assets and prospects. Why not add picks and prospects and go out and get a premier first liner?

For the record I’m not saying Lou should have added I’m simply saying based off his reasoning for not selling, he felt the isles were in the mix still. If they were really still in the mix, he’s a GM that would add. He did neither. I don’t think his actions back his statement imo

I think you’re blending what I said vs my rhetorical criticism of Lou. Lou said this team has a shot at the post season and would not dismantle the roster. He had to trade Nelson which was a great trade. If he truly believed in this roster why wouldn’t he add at the deadline with the cap space of Barzal being on LTIR.

With the price the isles got for Nelson and other league trades…..we saw a sellers market. I still feel the isles should have launched anything at a premium and used picks and prospects at the draft to re tool. The point of my post was that Lou ultimately contradicted himself. He actions did not represent what he said.
- kindlyrick

I don’t think he’s ever going to say our team isn’t good enough. There isn’t a GM that would.
Chiefs addressed it perfectly.
Lou not adding alone should have told you his feelings.
I think you will see changes in the off season.

I don’t think he’s ever going to say our team isn’t good enough. There isn’t a GM that would.
Chiefs addressed it perfectly.
Lou not adding alone should told you his feelings.
I think you will see changes in the off season.
- nyisles7

I don’t expect him to say the team wasn’t good enough. He initiated the sentence of his team still being in the mix. I don’t think you can make an argument for standing pat. Not with multiple seasons of a failed PP and being a bubble team. It’s kinda like drafting the best player available. It’s an ad value move.

If I told you I’d buy your house for 800k when it’s only worth 600k you’d be a fool to say no. To me it’s apples and apples. You don’t turn down free assets. Using the excuse of believing in the group still being in the mix, isn’t backed by his inaction at the deadline.

I think trading Palms would have made sense. I'm glad picks or prospects were not moved. I would still look to move Lee and JGP in the offseason.
- ses111

Agreed. Palmieri, JGP and Lee would have brought back enough of a haul for this team to acquire a legitimate NHL first line. This team needs a legitimate NHL first line. Period.

Where I think we differ is the lack of selling at a premium. Just looking at the Nelson trade, we saw the isles benefit immensely. For an isles team who has struggled to sign UFA’s adding assets is what they need to do in order to acquire top end talent. Not trading Palmieri or JGP to acquire extra assets was the wrong move. Both Palmieri and JGP are players that can be obtained. First liners like Brady Tkatchuk could only be had by launching assets and prospects. Why not add picks and prospects and go out and get a premier first liner?

For the record I’m not saying Lou should have added I’m simply saying based off his reasoning for not selling, he felt the isles were in the mix still. If they were really still in the mix, he’s a GM that would add. He did neither. I don’t think his actions back his statement imo
- kindlyrick

I 100% agree that selling on Pageau/Palmieri or any of the other pending UFA's would have been the correct way to go. I don't think they could have sold everyone because the reality is that icing a team that's half-AHL (Bridgeport is the worst team in the league BTW) isn't going to happen. But to have sold a few more guys would have gone a long way towards stockpiling assets.

Just my own gut feeling, but I think the bubble bursts soon on this nice little run they're having right now. Obviously making playoffs is nice, but I don't think it really helps them get this team moving towards being a real contender instead of just a perennial bubble team.

I 100% agree that selling on Pageau/Palmieri or any of the other pending UFA's would have been the correct way to go. I don't think they could have sold everyone because the reality is that icing a team that's half-AHL (Bridgeport is the worst team in the league BTW) isn't going to happen. But to have sold a few more guys would have gone a long way towards stockpiling assets.

Just my own gut feeling, but I think the bubble bursts soon on this nice little run they're having right now. Obviously making playoffs is nice, but I don't think it really helps them get this team moving towards being a real contender instead of just a perennial bubble team.
- eichiefs9

I guess my original point was the lack of reasoning for not selling. This was their chance to re build a stale prospect pool. I don’t see any rationale to not have capitalized on that

https://www.playoffstatus...nhl/easternstandings.html

They now have a 25% chance of making the playoffs. Not great odds, but way better than a week and a half ago before this 4-game point streak. I think the odds then were like single digits.

I guess my original point was the lack of reasoning for not selling. This was their chance to re build a stale prospect pool. I don’t see any rationale to not have capitalized on that
- kindlyrick

Most of us certified HB internet GMs wanted Lou to trade Palmieri who will be a UFA at the end of the season. Pure speculation on my part, but I'm guessing Lou probably was only being offered draft picks which Lou famously doesn't value very highly. Since Lou likes Palms, he probably figured he was worth more to the Isles than draft picks, just in case they could squeak into the playoffs.