I guess my original point was the lack of reasoning for not selling. This was their chance to re build a stale prospect pool. I don’t see any rationale to not have capitalized on that
- kindlyrick

Yeah we are in 100% agreement on that front. Not selling more in the best sellers' market in years was a terrible move. Doubly-so regarding Palmieri specifically because it became evident in the days after the deadline that they weren't exactly close on a deal. To not sell him and see him go elsewhere in the summer would be reprehensible.

I've read in a couple places and seen headlines that Connor Bedard might be unhappy in Chicago. Wonder what it would take to trade for him, if he does become available?

https://www.hawksinsider....khawks-star-connor-bedard

https://www.playoffstatus.com/nhl/easternstandings.html

They now have a 25% chance of making the playoffs. Not great odds, but way better than a week and a half ago before this 4-game point streak. I think the odds then were like single digits.
- JohnScammo

Playoffs will still be tough, but Sorokin gives them a fighting chance.

I've read in a couple places and seen headlines that Connor Bedard might be unhappy in Chicago. Wonder what it would take to trade for him, if he does become available?

https://www.hawksinsider....khawks-star-connor-bedard
- streaks

Barzal.

Yeah we are in 100% agreement on that front. Not selling more in the best sellers' market in years was a terrible move. Doubly-so regarding Palmieri specifically because it became evident in the days after the deadline that they weren't exactly close on a deal. To not sell him and see him go elsewhere in the summer would be reprehensible.
- eichiefs9

Now we’re in agreement. If Palmieri walks for nothing now you gave up a first for nothing. It appears one of Lou’s flaws might be loyalty.

In theory you sell what you can and get 1.5 times the assets value back. You do that a few times and you basically signed a UFA (brought in something for nothing).

Barzal.

- ses111

Maybe so. And some of the assets that we didn't get for moving Palms and a couple others...

I've read in a couple places and seen headlines that Connor Bedard might be unhappy in Chicago. Wonder what it would take to trade for him, if he does become available?

https://www.hawksinsider....khawks-star-connor-bedard
- streaks

The rights to Palmieri?

The rights to Palmieri?
- Cptmjl

- JohnScammo

The Chicago Blackhawks have acquired a Ziploc bag of Kyle Palmieri's chest hair trimmings and a conditional 3rd round pick in 2031 in exchange for F Connor Bedard

New York Islanders
@NYIslanders
1m
#Isles Transaction: The New York Islanders have signed Gleb Veremyev to a two-year, entry-level contract beginning in the 2025-26 season.

Official.

Yay?

Most of us certified HB internet GMs wanted Lou to trade Palmieri who will be a UFA at the end of the season. Pure speculation on my part, but I'm guessing Lou probably was only being offered draft picks which Lou famously doesn't value very highly. Since Lou likes Palms, he probably figured he was worth more to the Isles than draft picks, just in case they could squeak into the playoffs.
- JohnScammo

Nelson is minus 30 goals and palms is another 25 to 30. Have to have some proven goal scorers on your roster. Also He lives on the island out east as you know in the off season and I think he will sign a team friendly deal.
I also think Lou was listening to offers on Palms but as you said the picks or prospects offered weren’t what Lou thought would move the team forward vs keeping him.
If a deal can’t be agreed to he still can be traded at the draft.

Now we’re in agreement. If Palmieri walks for nothing now you gave up a first for nothing. It appears one of Lou’s flaws might be loyalty.

In theory you sell what you can and get 1.5 times the assets value back. You do that a few times and you basically signed a UFA (brought in something for nothing).
- kindlyrick

Wow sounds so easy

Wow sounds so easy
- nyisles7

You did see the isles get a first and a top tier prospect for Nelson. I didn’t say it was easy, it’s in theory. Like not splitting kings in black jack. In theory you don’t split kings….it doesn’t guarantee you a win. It was a sellers market….your asset was worth more in trade

I don’t know what you’re arguing at this point. It’s pretty clear to me what should have happened. Defending Lou on this one is not being honest with yourself. It’s become clear to me that part of the adage “the game has passed Lou by” includes his loyalty and favoritism. It’s simply not putting the team/organization first.

Now we’re in agreement. If Palmieri walks for nothing now you gave up a first for nothing. It appears one of Lou’s flaws might be loyalty.

In theory you sell what you can and get 1.5 times the assets value back. You do that a few times and you basically signed a UFA (brought in something for nothing).
- kindlyrick

Most funny thing about this is it may be the best outcome for us if it were to happen.

Most funny thing about this is it may be the best outcome for us if it were to happen.
- Cptmjl

Yeah I hear ya, I just think letting a guy walk for nothing is a fireable offense but that’s me. From cryin Ryan, Okposo, Vanek, Tavares, that’s a lot of lost assets…..possibly 4-5 first round picks lost. Prob why we’re a bubble team with the worst PP.

New York Islanders
@NYIslanders
1m
#Isles Transaction: The New York Islanders have signed Gleb Veremyev to a two-year, entry-level contract beginning in the 2025-26 season.

Official.

Yay?
- eichiefs9

They said a few teams were after him. Sounds like a big boy

Edit: just looked him up. NJ native lol

They said a few teams were after him. Sounds like a big boy

Edit: just looked him up. NJ native lol
- kindlyrick

Definitely big, probably won't do much on the scoresheet but if he can play defense and be physical he'll be a good bottom six option.

Definitely big, probably won't do much on the scoresheet but if he can play defense and be physical he'll be a good bottom six option.
- eichiefs9

255 PIMs in 100 games. Guess he can fight too

Yeah I hear ya, I just think letting a guy walk for nothing is a fireable offense but that’s me. From cryin Ryan, Okposo, Vanek, Tavares, that’s a lot of lost assets…..possibly 4-5 first round picks lost. Prob why we’re a bubble team with the worst PP.
- kindlyrick

I agree but we shouldn’t even be thinking about this right now. Palmieri should be playing for a cup and we should be wondering whether Lou is going to trade or keep the pick(s). He would’ve traded them btw. 😆

I agree but we shouldn’t even be thinking about this right now. Palmieri should be playing for a cup and we should be wondering whether Lou is going to trade or keep the pick(s). He would’ve traded them btw. 😆
- Cptmjl

Hah. Definitely. Curious when he’s gonna hire Jamie Langenbrunner or Colin White for something.

You did see the isles get a first and a top tier prospect for Nelson. I didn’t say it was easy, it’s in theory. Like not splitting kings in black jack. In theory you don’t split kings….it doesn’t guarantee you a win. It was a sellers market….your asset was worth more in trade

I don’t know what you’re arguing at this point. It’s pretty clear to me what should have happened. Defending Lou on this one is not being honest with yourself. It’s become clear to me that part of the adage “the game has passed Lou by” includes his loyalty and favoritism. It’s simply not putting the team/organization first.
- kindlyrick

Oh yeah Lou is done. He made a great deal for Nelly. Should have traded Palms according to you and others, although we don’t know what was offered.
Maybe you do I don’t know? Also Palms maybe will be signed for a nice team deal? Again we don’t know you might?
Our D was a mash unit with the injuries and he scoops up Tony D for nothing and a couple others to hold the d corps together enough to still be in the PO hunt without Barzal and now Nelson. Hell of a job in my opinion. Not to mention the injuries to our forwards as well.
KR, it’s easy from your couch. That’s why I am defending Lou. Guy has been a savior to this franchise nothing less. Barry never comes here without him here either does Roy.
Whether they make the POs or not he will be making changes. That said they are playing pretty good hockey lately. Maybe they’re finally grasping Roy’s structure and it’s working.
Again you have no idea what assets, (picks or prospects) were offered and who they were offered for.
For me picks are a crap shoot and so are certain prospects.
To that point. Would you rather have Beau, Raty and a first that really isn’t even playing in the NHL today or Bo Horvat? (Who btw signed a contract so our assets weren’t traded for a rental.)
It’s a pretty easy answer.
Again it’s real easy when you’re playing GM on the internet and your Balls aren’t on the line.
Lou’s played this GM game for years and is respected throughout the league. Maybe not by internet GM’s but by ones in the league as successful as him and others who wish they were as successful as him.
His only focus is to make the Islanders a cup contender/winner. Honestly he doesn’t need any personal medals his record speaks for itself.
That said it’s amazing or comical really, how many internet GMs THINK they know better.

Yeah I hear ya, I just think letting a guy walk for nothing is a fireable offense but that’s me. From cryin Ryan, Okposo, Vanek, Tavares, that’s a lot of lost assets…..possibly 4-5 first round picks lost. Prob why we’re a bubble team with the worst PP.
- kindlyrick

All walked under Snow. Lou was here after FA started with JT or close.
Probably one of the biggest reasons why Snow was fired?

Oh yeah Lou is done. He made a great deal for Nelly. Should have traded Palms according to you and others, although we don’t know what was offered.
Maybe you do I don’t know? Also Palms maybe will be signed for a nice team deal? Again we don’t know you might?
Our D was a mash unit with the injuries and he scoops up Tony D for nothing and a couple others to hold the d corps together enough to still be in the PO hunt without Barzal and now Nelson. Hell of a job in my opinion. Not to mention the injuries to our forwards as well.
KR, it’s easy from your couch. That’s why I am defending Lou. Guy has been a savior to this franchise nothing less. Barry never comes here without him here either does Roy.
Whether they make the POs or not he will be making changes. That said they are playing pretty good hockey lately. Maybe they’re finally grasping Roy’s structure and it’s working.
Again you have no idea what assets, (picks or prospects) were offered and who they were offered for.
For me picks are a crap shoot and so are certain prospects.
To that point. Would you rather have Beau, Raty and a first that really isn’t even playing in the NHL today or Bo Horvat? (Who btw signed a contract so our assets weren’t traded for a rental.)
It’s a pretty easy answer.
Again it’s real easy when you’re playing GM on the internet and your Balls aren’t on the line.
Lou’s played this GM game for years and is respected throughout the league. Maybe not by internet GM’s but by ones in the league as successful as him and others who wish they were as successful as him.
His only focus is to make the Islanders a cup contender/winner. Honestly he doesn’t need any personal medals his record speaks for itself.
That said it’s amazing or comical really, how many internet GMs THINK they know better.
- nyisles7

As you said his job is to make the islanders cup competitive. The islanders have digressed in years 5,6 and 7. It’s the GMs job to address needs and yet the isles remain a bubble team with one of the worst special teams in the league. I don’t profess to know what deals were offered or not. I only speak facts. PP went 0-24 in last years playoffs and yet the coaching remained the same with MacLean.
Instead of capitalizing on the sellers market Lou held assets rather than re tool the stale roster. IMHO that was the wrong move. You don’t ride your car into the junk yard, you flip it to get something newer.

Yes Horvat was an excellent trade. Yes bringing in Trotz was an excellent hire. But as the old saying goes “what have you done for me lately”. With the prospect talent rising, why wouldn’t you add assets to build around the next generation who appear to be high end talent?

All walked under Snow. Lou was here after FA started with JT or close.
Probably one of the biggest reasons why Snow was fired?
- nyisles7

Snow was fired because you couldn’t gas light the fans 12 years in a 5 year rebuild with zero success. The billboard was the nail in the coffin.

Internet GM’s assemble.