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Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Wednesday @ 2:17 PM ET
True, but then you could have a lot of teams tanking toward the end of the season, and that's a very bad look for the League. Maybe not in a weak draft year, but could you imagine how many teams would have tanked for McDavid?
- JohnScammo

https://sabrenoise.com/re...-years-later-01jqafmk8270
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Wednesday @ 4:43 PM ET
Numbers never lie!!

Also from Chat GPT :

The Edmonton Oilers’ sequence of winning the first overall pick four times in six years, given their respective odds each year, was an extraordinarily improbable event, with a likelihood of about 0.03%.

- kindlyrick

Unless the balls weighted?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Wednesday @ 5:07 PM ET
Unless the balls weighted?

- Upstate_isles


When big money is on the line anything goes. That’s just the facts.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Wednesday @ 5:36 PM ET
When big money is on the line anything goes. That’s just the facts.
- kindlyrick

Hell yea
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Wednesday @ 6:14 PM ET
We are 24 hours until the last game of the season. I remember saying in every November I will wait to judge this team. It did not matter late October or late April. The outcome was unacceptable.

What are the odds that Roy is fired in the next 72 hours or steps down? I have a feeling that he will be the first piece to fall.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Wednesday @ 10:09 PM ET
We are 24 hours until the last game of the season. I remember saying in every November I will wait to judge this team. It did not matter late October or late April. The outcome was unacceptable.

What are the odds that Roy is fired in the next 72 hours or steps down? I have a feeling that he will be the first piece to fall.

- Nfdbulldawg


I truly believe that Lou will “resign”
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Thursday @ 7:35 AM ET
I truly believe that Lou will “resign”
- kindlyrick

A guy can dream but I highly doubt it. If that’s the actual plan then we’re getting his son as his replacement.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 9:07 AM ET
https://sabrenoise.com/revisiting-the-tank-bowl-10-years-later-01jqafmk8270
- Gabe Athaus

Funny story, thanks. I did not remember that. I could be wrong, but I think it was sometime after that season that the NHL made the odds even worse for tanking. In other words, finishing last in the NHL meant that you were even less likely to draft first overall than in previous years.

I remember back in 2009, the Islanders were vying for last place. In the final game of the season, the Islanders were involved in a shoot-out. They were in danger of blowing their chances for the first overall pick. But all they had to do was not make their 3rd and final shot in the shoot-out. So Scott Gordon passed over some guys who might have scored and selected Brendan Witt to take the 3rd shot. Needless to say, Witt failed to score, the Isles finished in dead last, won the lottery, and selected Tavares.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Thursday @ 9:20 AM ET
Funny story, thanks. I did not remember that. I could be wrong, but I think it was sometime after that season that the NHL made the odds even worse for tanking. In other words, finishing last in the NHL meant that you were even less likely to draft first overall than in previous years.

I remember back in 2009, the Islanders were vying for last place. In the final game of the season, the Islanders were involved in a shoot-out. They were in danger of blowing their chances for the first overall pick. But all they had to do was not make their 3rd and final shot in the shoot-out. So Scott Gordon passed over some guys who might have scored and selected Brendan Witt to take the 3rd shot. Needless to say, Witt failed to score, the Isles finished in dead last, won the lottery, and selected Tavares.

- JohnScammo


It's the SO and the Islanders. Nobody was scoring that goal.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 9:24 AM ET
It's the SO and the Islanders. Nobody was scoring that goal.
- ses111

The Frans might have. But I can't remember whether he had already taken his shot.
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Thursday @ 9:39 AM ET
Funny story, thanks. I did not remember that. I could be wrong, but I think it was sometime after that season that the NHL made the odds even worse for tanking. In other words, finishing last in the NHL meant that you were even less likely to draft first overall than in previous years.

I remember back in 2009, the Islanders were vying for last place. In the final game of the season, the Islanders were involved in a shoot-out. They were in danger of blowing their chances for the first overall pick. But all they had to do was not make their 3rd and final shot in the shoot-out. So Scott Gordon passed over some guys who might have scored and selected Brendan Witt to take the 3rd shot. Needless to say, Witt failed to score, the Isles finished in dead last, won the lottery, and selected Tavares.

- JohnScammo

Throwing a guy out there to take a penalty shot who was hit by an SUV a few months earlier is an all-time tank job
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Thursday @ 9:40 AM ET
The Frans might have. But I can't remember whether he had already taken his shot.
- JohnScammo


Frans would be the one player to score. Is there any such thing as a SO coach? If so, Frans needs to be hired.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Thursday @ 9:58 AM ET
If we only could get a young “New NHL” GM like Chris Drury!
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 10:04 AM ET
Throwing a guy out there to take a penalty shot who was hit by an SUV a few months earlier is an all-time tank job
- Gabe Athaus

Brendan Witt was a fine defensive defenseman for his era, but he was not known for his offensive ability. In fact, getting hit by the truck probably didn't hurt his offensive game at all.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 10:07 AM ET
Frans would be the one player to score. Is there any such thing as a SO coach? If so, Frans needs to be hired.

- ses111

The Isles were pretty bad back in those years, but they had one of the best, if not the best, shoot-out specialists in the NHL. The Frans was money with his deadly back-hand move...
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Thursday @ 10:11 AM ET
Brendan Witt was a fine defensive defenseman for his era, but he was not known for his offensive ability. In fact, getting hit by the truck probably didn't hurt his offensive game at all.
- JohnScammo

Getting hit by a truck didn't even hurt him at all He played that night
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 10:11 AM ET
Getting hit by a truck didn't even hurt him at all He played that night
- Gabe Athaus

The truck was totaled.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Thursday @ 10:12 AM ET
Brendan Witt was a fine defensive defenseman for his era, but he was not known for his offensive ability. In fact, getting hit by the truck probably didn't hurt his offensive game at all.
- JohnScammo


Back in the day when the Islanders had a GM that could sign quality UFA's.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Thursday @ 10:13 AM ET
The Isles were pretty bad back in those years, but they had one of the best, if not the best, shoot-out specialists in the NHL. The Frans was money with his deadly back-hand move...
- JohnScammo


Frans was great in the SO and a very solid player.
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Thursday @ 10:17 AM ET
The truck was totaled.
- JohnScammo

When Brendan Witt donates blood, he declines the syringe and instead requests a handgun and a bucket
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 10:39 AM ET
Back in the day when the Islanders had a GM that could sign quality UFA's.

- ses111

Was that your guy, Neil Smith, who signed him? Decent signing, as Witt was pretty good his first 2 or 3 years on the Island. Eventually, they had to buy him out, but that was far down the road...
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 10:39 AM ET
When Brendan Witt donates blood, he declines the syringe and instead requests a handgun and a bucket
- Gabe Athaus


kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Thursday @ 10:51 AM ET
A guy can dream but I highly doubt it. If that’s the actual plan then we’re getting his son as his replacement.
- Cptmjl


Yeah maybe I’m trying to be optimistic, but really at his age, with the last few years of regression, how can anyone with a clear head think this should continue. When the feelings subside over the facts, the facts are that he’s 82 years old. If I have my choice of a pilot or a brain surgeon, it ain’t gonna be an 82 year old.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Thursday @ 10:52 AM ET
Throwing a guy out there to take a penalty shot who was hit by an SUV a few months earlier is an all-time tank job
- Gabe Athaus


Amazing. Forgot he got hit by an SUV. He always reminded me of Ogre from revenge of the nerds.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Thursday @ 10:53 AM ET
Was that your guy, Neil Smith, who signed him? Decent signing, as Witt was pretty good his first 2 or 3 years on the Island. Eventually, they had to buy him out, but that was far down the road...
- JohnScammo


My memory is shot but I vaguely remember him thinking he was forced out of the league by someone.
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