Gorton has done an excellent job in Montreal and was building something good with the Rangers until Dolan Dolan'd. Letting him go was exceptionally dumb on their part.

Someone like him would be a great hire.
- Gabe Athaus

Agreed. What about Roy getting the GM job?
What would you think about that?

It was time for change now who they bring in idk but this was needed imo
- Upstate_isles

One thing is certain. Lou can’t be blamed for this hiring

Agreed. What about Roy getting the GM job?
What would you think about that?
- nyisles7

I wouldn't be against it. Maybe would still make sense to have a veteran NHL GM oversee things alongside him, but I like the style that he tried to implement. His systems generated a lot of shots for the Islanders but they just don't have the horses to finish the chances. So I'd be willing to bet that the way he worked as GM would be in line with the way he coached and I think that would work for me. Probably wouldn't be my #1 choice, but I don't think I'd hate it. He has experience doing it as a GM/coach in the Q.

David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
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Islanders are expected to cast a wide net in search for a new GM, with some potential candidates/targets already discussed internally. Per sources, Lou was informed of the team’s decision before the regular-season ended.

I wouldn't be against it. Maybe would still make sense to have a veteran NHL GM oversee things alongside him, but I like the style that he tried to implement. His systems generated a lot of shots for the Islanders but they just don't have the horses to finish the chances. So I'd be willing to bet that the way he worked as GM would be in line with the way he coached and I think that would work for me. Probably wouldn't be my #1 choice, but I don't think I'd hate it. He has experience doing it as a GM/coach in the Q.
- Gabe Athaus

I wonder how involved Collin’s was in the Roy hiring initially. Was it 100% Lou or did Collin’s and Ownership have a say.
I like coaches who create structure that best suits there talent which I don’t think Roy did. That was Barry’s strength imo.
I think after have Lou they are going to go to a proven GM.
But like you I wouldn’t be against giving Roy a chance. That said these next few years are going to be crucial in the direction and rebuild of the team.
Get it wrong and it lengthens the agony.

This is absolutely hilarious and something I didn't know. This the the track record for Chris Lamoriello-run AHL teams that he ran while his dad ran the NHL affiliate:




- Gabe Athaus

Omg. Seeing that in writing is crazy. How dog up explain keeping your son as GM??

David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
2m
Islanders are expected to cast a wide net in search for a new GM, with some potential candidates/targets already discussed internally. Per sources, Lou was informed of the team’s decision before the regular-season ended.
- Gabe Athaus

He was not. That’s total Bs!

I wouldn't be against it. Maybe would still make sense to have a veteran NHL GM oversee things alongside him, but I like the style that he tried to implement. His systems generated a lot of shots for the Islanders but they just don't have the horses to finish the chances. So I'd be willing to bet that the way he worked as GM would be in line with the way he coached and I think that would work for me. Probably wouldn't be my #1 choice, but I don't think I'd hate it. He has experience doing it as a GM/coach in the Q.
- Gabe Athaus

I think Patrick is better suited as GM than coach. Very difficult for great players being coaches.

Let's hope we hire messier

Gotta with good insight into things

https://x.com/ChrisBottaN.../1914755073327907035?s=19

I wonder how involved Collin’s was in the Roy hiring initially. Was it 100% Lou or did Collin’s and Ownership have a say.
I like coaches who create structure that best suits there talent which I don’t think Roy did. That was Barry’s strength imo.
I think after have Lou they are going to go to a proven GM.
But like you I wouldn’t be against giving Roy a chance. That said these next few years are going to be crucial in the direction and rebuild of the team.
Get it wrong and it lengthens the agony.
- nyisles7

Seems unlikely we'll ever know whose hands touched the Roy hiring. And I definitely don't disagree on the point about coaches/systems, but most coaches have a system that they're running anywhere and I don't think it changes in a significant way. If a coach's system doesn't fit a team, they shouldn't be hired in the first place.

But full-agree on the last part. This is a major turning point for the Islanders and whether it's a good one or a bad one will take years to determine.

Took me a few minutes, but this was the excerpt I saw about the Islanders creating chances under Roy:

Let's hope we hire messier
- Upstate_isles

That would burn Ranger fans.

Gotta with good insight into things

https://x.com/ChrisBottaN.../1914755073327907035?s=19
- Upstate_isles

Pretty bang-on summation. Don't disagree with a word of it.

Gotta with good insight into things

https://x.com/ChrisBottaN.../1914755073327907035?s=19
- Upstate_isles

Lou had complete control. Good to see the Islanders as an attractive spot. Hopefully that translates to UFA's in the future.

And to circle back to comments I made a few days ago....this is good news re: ownership because they obviously do care about the on-ice product and are willing to make tough decisions if they think it will benefit them. Owners deserve credit here for sure.

Seems unlikely we'll ever know whose hands touched the Roy hiring. And I definitely don't disagree on the point about coaches/systems, but most coaches have a system that they're running anywhere and I don't think it changes in a significant way. If a coach's system doesn't fit a team, they shouldn't be hired in the first place.

But full-agree on the last part. This is a major turning point for the Islanders and whether it's a good one or a bad one will take years to determine.

Took me a few minutes, but this was the excerpt I saw about the Islanders creating chances under Roy:


- Gabe Athaus

I agree with Toys offensive push and the teams response.
That said it didn’t improve the PP and the PK and defense were dreadful.
Defense wins. Offense is exciting but honestly teams that are stingy and play defense first. Just my opinion of course.
Important moves to be made by Ownership. Gotta think there’s a short list of prime GM candidates they are pursuing.

Pretty bang-on summation. Don't disagree with a word of it.
- Gabe Athaus

One thing that is somewhat of a head scratcher is it said the NHL advised the isles to hire Lou.
Why is the league involved in an organizations hire. That’s a little odd to me

Gotta with good insight into things

https://x.com/ChrisBottaN.../1914755073327907035?s=19
- Upstate_isles

Gotta is right on here.

One thing that is somewhat of a head scratcher is it said the NHL advised the isles to hire Lou.
Why is the league involved in an organizations hire. That’s a little odd to me
- kindlyrick

They are part of the NhL franchise and asked who’s available and could help revamp the organization. I feel Malkin being a new NHL owner reached out to the NHL.
Fittingly Collin’s who was the COO of the NHL is a part owner of the Isles now.

One thing that is somewhat of a head scratcher is it said the NHL advised the isles to hire Lou.
Why is the league involved in an organizations hire. That’s a little odd to me
- kindlyrick

I think they meant that the owners asked around the league and Lou was the recommendation that they kept getting. Not that they asked Bettman & Co. for their pick

I agree with Toys offensive push and the teams response.
That said it didn’t improve the PP and the PK and defense were dreadful.
Defense wins. Offense is exciting but honestly teams that are stingy and play defense first. Just my opinion of course.
Important moves to be made by Ownership. Gotta think there’s a short list of prime GM candidates they are pursuing.
- nyisles7

I think it becomes a chicken-or-the-egg thing. Was scoring/special teams bad because of Roy? Or was Roy given a stable of mediocre-or-worse talent and that's why special teams/scoring were an issue?

I think it becomes a chicken-or-the-egg thing. Was scoring/special teams bad because of Roy? Or was Roy given a stable of mediocre-or-worse talent and that's why special teams/scoring were an issue?
- Gabe Athaus

Special teams have been an issue with multiple coaches. Patrick may not be a great coach, but he was given a bad hand and could not pick all his coaches.

Gotta is right on here.
- nyisles7

Thanks, you also called our coach toys so suck it

I think it becomes a chicken-or-the-egg thing. Was scoring/special teams bad because of Roy? Or was Roy given a stable of mediocre-or-worse talent and that's why special teams/scoring were an issue?
- Gabe Athaus

Very true that he increased rush opportunities and offense so why not the PP?
I thought the rush increase had a lot to do with Tony D’s ability to skate and his stretch passes were a very noticeable difference. Hope they keep him.
The PK imho was on Roy. It was never that bad. His d zone structure certainly was different and I think he tried to fit a square peg into a round hole. Especially when the team tried to clamp down on leads late in games. They had no confidence.

Thanks, you also called our coach toys so suck it
- Upstate_isles

Yeah I did didn’t I