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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
The 1989 draft pick might have been their all-time worst. #2 overall was David Chysowski who never amounted to anything. I think it might have been Bill Torrey's first draft without the benefit of Jimmy Devellano.......who had been lured away by Detroit........and yes, probably deserves credit for finding Zetterberg in the 6th (?) round a decade later.
- JohnScammo


Exactly John! Islanders never really recovered from the Jimmy D loss.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 1:45 PM ET
Islander drafts have not been the same since the dynasty days ended.
- ses111



They drafted Palffy in 1991. They hired Kenny Morrow in 1992 as director of pro scouting. Hate to bash an islander great, but maybe he’s the problem. Or one of..
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 30 @ 1:48 PM ET
They drafted Palffy in 1991. They hired Kenny Morrow in 1992 as director of pro scouting. Hate to bash an islander great, but maybe he’s the problem. Or one of..
- kindlyrick


Islanders had some hits and mostly misses. We can talk Garth, Milbury, and Maloney, but ownership has been the biggest issue. Those GM's were not lousy on their own and Milbury and Maloney had to get rid of players over money.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 1:49 PM ET
Islanders had some hits and mostly misses. We can talk Garth, Milbury, and Maloney, but ownership has been the biggest issue. Those GM's were not lousy on their own and Milbury and Maloney had to get rid of players over money.
- ses111


Very true….great point. I do however think this ownership is different. The difference being they are the only owners to be able to build a new arena. Because of that, their hides are on the line. I have to imagine season ticket sales are abysmal for the upcoming season.

Shout out to Sanjay Kumar who was released from jail in 2017
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 30 @ 1:55 PM ET
Very true….great point. I do however think this ownership is different. The difference being they are the only owners to be able to build a new arena. Because of that, their hides are on the line. I have to imagine season ticket sales are abysmal for the upcoming season.

Shout out to Sanjay Kumar who was released from jail in 2017

- kindlyrick


We will find out about these owners with the hires they make. They need to hire people that can build through the draft and make smart trades and signings.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
We will find out about these owners with the hires they make. They need to hire people that can build through the draft and make smart trades and signings.
- ses111


I don’t think they’re phucking around anymore. They canned a HOFer (re : didn’t renew him). They got their new arena and the team has the chance to become worth double what it is now, with a winning group, which leads to bigger deals with all things UBS.
Wang on the other hand kept Snow for 12 years. 7 years later Snowy is jobless. Go figure.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 30 @ 2:13 PM ET
I don’t think they’re phucking around anymore. They canned a HOFer (re : didn’t renew him). They got their new arena and the team has the chance to become worth double what it is now, with a winning group, which leads to bigger deals with all things UBS.
Wang on the other hand kept Snow for 12 years. 7 years later Snowy is jobless. Go figure.

- kindlyrick


Bless Wang's soul, but he had to give DP 15 years instead of listening to the GM at the time who wanted to give him 5 years. The mistakes over the years are staggering.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 2:22 PM ET
Bless Wang soul, but he had to give DP 15 years instead of listening to the GM at the time who wanted to give him 5 years. The mistakes over the years are staggering.
- ses111


I think the fact that they have a former NHL employee with league wide experience leading the search is a positive. I think I read somewhere that Collin’s and Lou had a mid season rift? Now, not re newing Lou tells me that they are putting winning as a priority. That’s the difference between this ownership and the prior. I’m excited for the isles next chapter as I believe it will be different than the status quo of years past.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Apr 30 @ 2:26 PM ET
Dave Chysowksi…..lol forgot about him. I can forgive the franchise for a bust, but the isles are rife with em. Too many to name.
Good memory with the Jimmy Devellano mention.

- kindlyrick

I had to look it up. Zetterberg was a 7th round pick (!), not a 6th round pick. How did Mike Milbury not grab him in the 6th round???
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 30 @ 2:30 PM ET
I think the fact that they have a former NHL employee with league wide experience leading the search is a positive. I think I read somewhere that Collin’s and Lou had a mid season rift? Now, not re newing Lou tells me that they are putting winning as a priority. That’s the difference between this ownership and the prior. I’m excited for the isles next chapter as I believe it will be different than the status quo of years past.
- kindlyrick


I think moving on from Lou is a big positive. Now we need to see the next steps.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
I had to look it up. Zetterberg was a 7th round pick (!), not a 6th round pick. How did Mike Milbury not grab him in the 6th round???
- JohnScammo


Please John. You are going to make me want to bring back Jimmy D as President even at his age.
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Apr 30 @ 2:34 PM ET
They drafted Palffy in 1991. They hired Kenny Morrow in 1992 as director of pro scouting. Hate to bash an islander great, but maybe he’s the problem. Or one of..
- kindlyrick

christ, I didn't realize he has been around that long. Yeah, time to break up the alumni fraternity and prioritizing success over catering to everyone's nostalgia.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
christ, I didn't realize he has been around that long. Yeah, time to break up the alumni fraternity and prioritizing success over catering to everyone's nostalgia.
- Gabe Athaus


I think the fans rather have winning. I doubt fans will have a revolt if Kenny was replaced. Then again, fans are losing it over radio broadcast.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 2:43 PM ET
I had to look it up. Zetterberg was a 7th round pick (!), not a 6th round pick. How did Mike Milbury not grab him in the 6th round???
- JohnScammo


Milbury was too busy honing in on the “worst trades by a GM in NHL history” trophy. The conn Smyth of management trophies. Honorable mention to Garth Snow for the “worst drafting GM in history” trophy. The lady bing if you will…
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 2:46 PM ET
christ, I didn't realize he has been around that long. Yeah, time to break up the alumni fraternity and prioritizing success over catering to everyone's nostalgia.
- Gabe Athaus


3 decades of suck, i’d say it’s time.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 2:48 PM ET
I think the fans rather have winning. I doubt fans will have a revolt if Kenny was replaced. Then again, fans are losing it over radio broadcast.

- ses111


The complaining of the radio firing is by people who’ve never had a business or don’t understand business. It’s strictly a business move. The owners are allowed to monetize their product. Leaving Hofstra radio is a positive for future plans. They’re not ok with mediocrity. Did Suffolk county even get that Hofstra broadcast???
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Apr 30 @ 3:25 PM ET
The complaining of the radio firing is by people who’ve never had a business or don’t understand business. It’s strictly a business move. The owners are allowed to monetize their product. Leaving Hofstra radio is a positive for future plans. They’re not ok with mediocrity. Did Suffolk county even get that Hofstra broadcast???
- kindlyrick

Yes we got it on 103.9. I believe there was a third station that played them for further out east as well, but not 100% sure about that.

By all accounts King and Picker were good guys and I do feel bad for them and wish it didn't happen. But anyone who thinks the team axing them is some sort of travesty and a terrible idea needs to get in touch with reality.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 3:25 PM ET
Another fun fact:

In series clinching games, the Leafs are 0-30 on the PP.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 3:28 PM ET
Yes we got it on 103.9. I believe there was a third station that played them for further out east as well, but not 100% sure about that.

By all accounts King and Picker were good guys and I do feel bad for them and wish it didn't happen. But anyone who thinks the team axing them is some sort of travesty and a terrible idea needs to get in touch with reality.

- Gabe Athaus


I loved them personally. To me, it reminded me of the Coliseum isles. They were self made, and started from the bottom, the opposite of mainstream. But these new owners are players and the isles aren’t neighboring Hofstra anymore. I’d bet they will be able to sell the rights to broadcast say to an ESPN, or somehow capitalize/monetize on this decision. Who knows maybe they create their own network like YES 🤷‍♂️
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 30 @ 3:28 PM ET
Another fun fact:

In series clinching games, the Leafs are 0-30 on the PP.

- kindlyrick


Are they using Islander coaches during these games?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 3:34 PM ET
Are they using Islander coaches during these games?
- ses111


Haha. My friend sent me that who’s a leaf fan and I wrote the same thing back. Those are isles stats. Lol
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
They drafted Palffy in 1991. They hired Kenny Morrow in 1992 as director of pro scouting. Hate to bash an islander great, but maybe he’s the problem. Or one of..
- kindlyrick


When it comes to current scout staff... the New GM needs to clean house.

kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 30 @ 5:15 PM ET
When it comes to current scout staff... the New GM needs to clean house.

- Nfdbulldawg


I just hope Eric Cairns isnt running power skating clinics for the blue chips
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Thursday @ 5:42 AM ET
I just hope Eric Cairns isnt running power skating clinics for the blue chips
- kindlyrick

Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Thursday @ 10:18 AM ET
I just hope Eric Cairns isnt running power skating clinics for the blue chips
- kindlyrick

He's too busy for that. Taking the temperature of the room is a long and arduous process
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