I stand by this position regardless if they have a shot at making the playoffs. I have zero respect for teams that tank on purpose.
- bluemoon737

They should try, you're right. Tanking on purpose breeds a losing culture. Edmonton had it for years, Buffalo is still going through it. No team should intentionally tank, I agree

But also thinking if this team reaches the post season that "anything can happen" is just a child's fantasy. If you need that to get by, delude yourself. I won't judge. Just be prepared to be disappointed. This is not a cup team as is. Sorry guys

A team on their way up, vs a team on their way down. The analysis here is purely based on points, not underlying factors like a Florida team who was better than advertised during the regular season but were injury plagued versus a team in its twilight years.

Floridas window is still open, they are still good, and have good coaching.

Bruins window is closed. They don't contend with this roster. Their coaching is vastly inferior. If you don't believe me, look at post season coaching records for Sacco.

The equivalency isn't there. You believe in magic.
- dothedougie

Missing something here. Don’t know what teams your comparing.Not saying bruins are good enough to go on some magical run but NO ONE
thought Florida had a chance against that bruin team in 2023. And the point difference was gigantic. Is Washington as “unbeatable “this year as the bruins in 2023. If the bruins magically made the playoffs which would be considered the bigger upset. This years bruins beating the caps or Florida beating the bruins in 2023 ?

Missing something here. Don’t know what teams your comparing.Not saying bruins are good enough to go on some magical run but NO ONE
thought Florida had a chance against that bruin team in 2023. And the point difference was gigantic. Is Washington as “unbeatable “this year as the bruins in 2023. If the bruins magically made the playoffs which would be considered the bigger upset. This years bruins beating the caps or Florida beating the bruins in 2023 ?
- johnnypie

The Florida team that beat the Bruins was way better than the Bruins are this year. Light years apart.

And you seem to forget Bergeron was injured last day of season and only played 3 post-season games - basically on life support. He had 1 goal and was... -6. Bergeron was MINUS SIX in those 3 games. (that was the only time in his career that Bergeron was a minus in the post season).

Plus Ulmark was injured - playing an injured goalie was stupid on the coaches part, and sealed the Bruins fate. Ulmark was a huge reason for the Bruins record season.

Bruins beating Was this would be >>>>>>>>>>> than when Florida beat the Bruins.

The Florida team that beat the Bruins was way better than the Bruins are this year. Light years apart.

And you seem to forget Bergeron was injured last day of season and only played 3 post-season games - basically on life support. He had 1 goal and was... -6. Bergeron was MINUS SIX in those 3 games. (that was the only time in his career that Bergeron was a minus in the post season).

Plus Ulmark was injured - playing an injured goalie was stupid on the coaches part, and sealed the Bruins fate. Ulmark was a huge reason for the Bruins record season.

Bruins beating Was this would be >>>>>>>>>>> than when Florida beat the Bruins.
- Nasty_Duck

So this Caps team is anywhere near the team that set every reg season record and picked up bertuzzi, Orlov and Hathaway . And again you’re looking at things after the fact. You love saying no chance like you know something. No one gave any team a chance against that bruin team never mind one that finished with 40+ points less.
I know back then you gave Florida a chance. Stop it.
Again I don’t like this bruin teams chance to even make the playoffs but I have seen plenty of great teams lose to teams that know it alls like you say have no chance. And of course after it happens all the reasons come out. Bruins losing in 1971 still haunts me !!!!

A team on their way up, vs a team on their way down. The analysis here is purely based on points, not underlying factors like a Florida team who was better than advertised during the regular season but were injury plagued versus a team in its twilight years.

Floridas window is still open, they are still good, and have good coaching.

Bruins window is closed. They don't contend with this roster. Their coaching is vastly inferior. If you don't believe me, look at post season coaching records for Sacco.

The equivalency isn't there. You believe in magic.
- dothedougie

Who had won the President's trophy the previous season and arguably got better.

when you look at things after the fact everything looks simple. If Marchand scores on the breakaway in the final seconds of game 5 against Florida is anyone talking about how they knew how good that team was ? They were this close to going out in 5. The bruins cup team in 2011 is dismantled immediately if the Habs bury one of their chances in game 7 OT.
In hockey one goal changes history . It’s easy after the fact to talk like you know something.
No chance means eliminated. Period. There is common sense and realistic chances but all the know it alls come up with reasons after the no chance team wins .

So this Caps team is anywhere near the team that set every reg season record and picked up bertuzzi, Orlov and Hathaway . And again you’re looking at things after the fact. You love saying no chance like you know something. No one gave any team a chance against that bruin team never mind one that finished with 40+ points less.
I know back then you gave Florida a chance. Stop it.
Again I don’t like this bruin teams chance to even make the playoffs but I have seen plenty of great teams lose to teams that know it alls like you say have no chance. And of course after it happens all the reasons come out. Bruins losing in 1971 still haunts me !!!!
- johnnypie

You want to ignore the facts, that's fine.

I get the feeling you are just trolling now, so I'm done discussing this with you.

This comment section’s been more entertaining than any Bruins game this year.

Here’s my take: we suck

The Florida team that beat the Bruins was way better than the Bruins are this year. Light years apart.

And you seem to forget Bergeron was injured last day of season and only played 3 post-season games - basically on life support. He had 1 goal and was... -6. Bergeron was MINUS SIX in those 3 games. (that was the only time in his career that Bergeron was a minus in the post season).

Plus Ulmark was injured - playing an injured goalie was stupid on the coaches part, and sealed the Bruins fate. Ulmark was a huge reason for the Bruins record season.

Bruins beating Was this would be >>>>>>>>>>> than when Florida beat the Bruins.
- Nasty_Duck

Everyone remembers the injuries.

I was in the severe minority in 2023 when I said the Panthers had a chance to upset the Bruins. They weren't great for long stretches that season. The Panthers that year had the pieces but it hadn't come together. They had a great month of hockey and it put them on another level.

Washingtons leading scorer is DYLAN Strome. Followed by Pierre Luc Dubois who turns into a newt when adversity strikes. Protas (who i like) is a 250 lb softy.

Here is the stat of the day. Aleksei Protas has half as many hits as Matt Grzelcyk this season.

They did a great job re-tooling but hardly unbeatable. Old man Ovi has had some great teams that get bounced early.

This entire scenario is projecting that the Bruins will finish the season strong. Its an uphill battle. If they can make it in, i think they will have some juice going into the playoffs. That is all.

As we ALL can attest, regular season points don't matter in June.

You want to ignore the facts, that's fine.

I get the feeling you are just trolling now, so I'm done discussing this with you.
- Nasty_Duck

How am I trolling ? All I do is state facts and ask you to explain your statements. Bruins finished 40 + points higher fact. Did you give Florida a chance back then , question ? They weren’t a no chance team in your estimation ?

How am I trolling ? All I do is state facts and ask you to explain your statements. Bruins finished 40 + points higher fact. Did you give Florida a chance back then , question ? They weren’t a no chance team in your estimation ?
- johnnypie

Bruins finished 40 points higher, but when you watched them play head to head that season it was apparent that the competitive gap wasn’t equal to the gap in points.
I’m a homer, but I gave FL a chance going into the series.

Edit; beside the injury problems they had the first half of season, they were also learning to play Maurice’s way. It clicked in down the stretch run.

Bruins finished 40 points higher, but when you watched them play head to head that season it was apparent that the competitive gap wasn’t equal to the gap in points.
I’m a homer, but I gave FL a chance going into the series.

Edit; beside the injury problems they had the first half of season, they were also learning to play Maurice’s way. It clicked in down the stretch run.
- Ratsreign

That summer would have been so much better had the Penguins not poop the bed and lost to like Chicago and Columbus? in the final weekend to let Florida in. 😭

Everyone remembers the injuries.

I was in the severe minority in 2023 when I said the Panthers had a chance to upset the Bruins. They weren't great for long stretches that season. The Panthers that year had the pieces but it hadn't come together. They had a great month of hockey and it put them on another level.

Washingtons leading scorer is DYLAN Strome. Followed by Pierre Luc Dubois who turns into a newt when adversity strikes. Protas (who i like) is a 250 lb softy.

Here is the stat of the day. Aleksei Protas has half as many hits as Matt Grzelcyk this season.

They did a great job re-tooling but hardly unbeatable. Old man Ovi has had some great teams that get bounced early.

This entire scenario is projecting that the Bruins will finish the season strong. Its an uphill battle. If they can make it in, i think they will have some juice going into the playoffs. That is all.

As we ALL can attest, regular season points don't matter in June.
- Mahewman

I never said Was was unbeatable.

You mention their top scorer is Strome. Keep in mind Oven-Chicken has missed 16 games and Was is still one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL.

What I am saying is the Bruins (who just traded away 3 regulars for futures) are not the team to do it.

This comment section’s been more entertaining than any Bruins game this year.

Here’s my take: we suck
- ProvBrewin

Who had won the President's trophy the previous season and arguably got better.
- bluemoon737

Hard to argue they got better when they were injury plagued. But yes, they were better and proved it by winning the cup the year after winning the presidents trophy.

Missing something here. Don’t know what teams your comparing.Not saying bruins are good enough to go on some magical run but NO ONE
thought Florida had a chance against that bruin team in 2023. And the point difference was gigantic. Is Washington as “unbeatable “this year as the bruins in 2023. If the bruins magically made the playoffs which would be considered the bigger upset. This years bruins beating the caps or Florida beating the bruins in 2023 ?
- johnnypie

Wow dude, just wow. Read your own post

Bruins finished 40 points higher, but when you watched them play head to head that season it was apparent that the competitive gap wasn’t equal to the gap in points.
I’m a homer, but I gave FL a chance going into the series.

Edit; beside the injury problems they had the first half of season, they were also learning to play Maurice’s way. It clicked in down the stretch run.
- Ratsreign

They became a more complete team, and won. It showed. That was my point.

The bruins are going the opposite way and have inferior coaching. Also my point.

I never said Was was unbeatable.

You mention their top scorer is Strome. Keep in mind Oven-Chicken has missed 16 games and Was is still one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL.

What I am saying is the Bruins (who just traded away 3 regulars for futures) are not the team to do it.
- Nasty_Duck

They might not be. I still want to see it though! I am just hoping they continue to play the way they are and that it wasn't just a trade deadline boost.

I am high on the Mittlestadt add.

Hard to argue they got better when they were injury plagued. But yes, they were better and proved it by winning the cup the year after winning the presidents trophy.
- dothedougie

Better as in the Huberdeau (good scorer but soft) for Tkachuk trade and adding Maurice as HC.

Better as in the Huberdeau (good scorer but soft) for Tkachuk trade and adding Maurice as HC.
- bluemoon737

I think those moves happened in different seasons, but both of those were moves to make them better.

They might not be. I still want to see it though! I am just hoping they continue to play the way they are and that it wasn't just a trade deadline boost.

I am high on the Mittlestadt add.
- Mahewman

I see it as similar to the coaching change boost.
Small winning streak right after followed by a lot more losses than wins.

They became a more complete team, and won. It showed. That was my point.

The bruins are going the opposite way and have inferior coaching. Also my point.
- dothedougie

Before this season started I believed that with the addition of Lindholm and Zadorov and counting on the players here playing the way they had last year (Swayman etc )the bruins were serious contenders.
That is not what happened. They
underachieved,there was injuries . They didn’t play like serious contenders. Sweeney decides to make trades . The Coyle,Carlo ,etc trades I can understand . The Marchand “ trade” is the one that made no sense to me and I gave my reasons.
But going by the posts by some it seems that the bruins are going in the wrong direction and don’t have a team that has player’s capable of contending. I don’t agree because with the use of the cap space available ,the middelstat and Minton additions and good health to the players already here I think they will contend next year.

You see what I’m doing is saying before it happens my observations. Seems here everyone knew that Florida had a chance to beat the 2023 bruins , they observed this team coming together and it was no big upset that a team that finished 43 points lower in the standings won. Just like now everyone knew what a powerhouse the
caps were going to be. I must have missed those posts.

I think those moves happened in different seasons, but both of those were moves to make them better.
- dothedougie

Pretty sure it was the same off-season because they won the Presidents trophy with an interim coach but got bounced in the first round and fired him and hired Maurice. Then did the Huberdeau for Tcachuck trade which also had some people scratching their heads based on the season Huberdeau just had.

Before this season started I believed that with the addition of Lindholm and Zadorov and counting on the players here playing the way they had last year (Swayman etc )the bruins were serious contenders.
That is not what happened. They
underachieved,there was injuries . They didn’t play like serious contenders. Sweeney decides to make trades . The Coyle,Carlo ,etc trades I can understand . The Marchand “ trade” is the one that made no sense to me and I gave my reasons.
But going by the posts by some it seems that the bruins are going in the wrong direction and don’t have a team that has player’s capable of contending. I don’t agree because with the use of the cap space available ,the middelstat and Minton additions and good health to the players already here I think they will contend next year.

You see what I’m doing is saying before it happens my observations. Seems here everyone knew that Florida had a chance to beat the 2023 bruins , they observed this team coming together and it was no big upset that a team that finished 43 points lower in the standings won. Just like now everyone knew what a powerhouse the
caps were going to be. I must have missed those posts.
- johnnypie

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=183362&page=1

Lots of Bruins in 5 takes back in 2023.

Pretty sure it was the same off-season because they won the Presidents trophy with an interim coach but got bounced in the first round and fired him and hired Maurice. Then did the Huberdeau for Tcachuck trade which also had some people scratching their heads based on the season Huberdeau just had.
- bluemoon737

Yes, except it was a second round flameout getting swept by the boltbastards