If you are building a team from scratch to win a cup right now who is the number 1 defenseman you would take?

Now there are 9 other teams doing the same thing going after you. Who are they taking?

Let's not get cute.
- picklerick

Hands down its Makar.

This would be ideal but means they are getting rid of the big 3 this summer
- nyrangers2

Thats why I made a note to say that Id be fine keeping Panarin unless someone offered a massive haul for him.

Hands down its Makar.
- aecliptic

OMG ITS TOO EARLY FOR THIS FRIEND

WHO ARE THE 9 THAT COME AFTER HIM?

OMG ITS TOO EARLY FOR THIS FRIEND

WHO ARE THE 9 THAT COME AFTER HIM?
- picklerick

whos got time to list 9 guys?

libor hajek
dylan mccllrath

done and done

OMG ITS TOO EARLY FOR THIS FRIEND

WHO ARE THE 9 THAT COME AFTER HIM?
- picklerick

Will get a blog on the game as soon as I can.
Popped in to catch up on comments and saw this. Here's mine, in no order, as to those who can take you to a Cup.

Hedman, Seider, Heiskanen/Harley, Doughty, you pick which one from Vegas, to me, it's Theodore, Carlson, Werenski, Morrissey, and Parayko. Just out on D-Ham and Q Hughes to be that player.

OMG ITS TOO EARLY FOR THIS FRIEND

WHO ARE THE 9 THAT COME AFTER HIM?
- picklerick

In no particular order:

Makar
Hughes
Werenski
Hedman
Josi
Slavin
Heiskanen
Mcavoy
Fox
Toews


It was hard to limit to 10 after the first 7 or so. Others for consideration:

Forsling
Morrisey
Tanev
Bouchard
Dahlin

onny Lazarus
@JLazzy23
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2m
Jonathan Quick has signed another one-year extension with #NYR, per the team.

Will get a blog on the game as soon as I can.
Popped in to catch up on comments and saw this. Here's mine, in no order, as to those who can take you to a Cup.

Hedman, Seider, Heiskanen/Harley, Doughty, you pick which one from Vegas, to me, it's Theodore, Carlson, Werenski, Morrissey, and Parayko. Just out on D-Ham and Q Hughes to be that player.
- airjan23

Fox comes behind John Carlson and Coltol Parayko and Dougie Hamilton? Quinn Hughes doesn't get picked #2 for you? Where is Dahlin?

Anyway, my point is even if you picked Fox #15 that means he is a top pairing defenseman. The initial comment was that Fox is not a top pairing guy, which is crazy to me. He lacks footspeed and physicality but is elite at everything else. Just because he needs a specific kind of partner doesn't mean he can't be THE guy

onny Lazarus
@JLazzy23
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2m
Jonathan Quick has signed another one-year extension with #NYR, per the team.
- nyrangers2

why do this to himself

Quickie back for a year, $1.55 mil

In no particular order:

Makar
Hughes
Werenski
Hedman
Josi
Slavin
Heiskanen
Mcavoy
Fox
Toews


It was hard to limit to 10 after the first 7 or so. Others for consideration:

Forsling
Morrisey
Tanev
Bouchard
Dahlin
- banger94

I'd probably replace McAvoy with Dahlin, but this is more or less the correct list with some room for debate towards the bottom two or three guys (not the guys on your list, just whoever would be ranked 8/9/10)_

In no particular order:

Makar
Hughes
Werenski
Hedman
Josi
Slavin
Heiskanen
Mcavoy
Fox
Toews


It was hard to limit to 10 after the first 7 or so. Others for consideration:

Forsling
Morrisey
Tanev
Bouchard
Dahlin
- banger94

I think Brock Faber is already a top 15-20 Dman. Ekblad is worth a mention.

Fox comes behind John Carlson and Coltol Parayko and Dougie Hamilton? Quinn Hughes doesn't get picked #2 for you? Where is Dahlin?

Anyway, my point is even if you picked Fox #15 that means he is a top pairing defenseman. The initial comment was that Fox is not a top pairing guy, which is crazy to me. He lacks footspeed and physicality but is elite at everything else. Just because he needs a specific kind of partner doesn't mean he can't be THE guy
- picklerick

Truthfully, I wouldnt take Fox, offensively he is good, defensively he has been bad. I wouldnt call him a cornerstone of a team now. IMO

Quickie back for a year, $1.55 mil
- airjan23

Jesper Fast is back?!

Fox comes behind John Carlson and Coltol Parayko and Dougie Hamilton? Quinn Hughes doesn't get picked #2 for you? Where is Dahlin?

Anyway, my point is even if you picked Fox #15 that means he is a top pairing defenseman. The initial comment was that Fox is not a top pairing guy, which is crazy to me. He lacks footspeed and physicality but is elite at everything else. Just because he needs a specific kind of partner doesn't mean he can't be THE guy
- picklerick

What Im saying is he needs a reduction in minutes.

Truthfully, I wouldnt take Fox, offensively he is good, defensively he has been bad. I wouldnt call him a cornerstone of a team now. IMO
- Brukie

Maybe this is my fault for being unclear but the ORIGINAL point I was contesting was that he should be on the 2nd pair and not the 1st. Seems like most are hung up on the fact that he is not big or physical, which is true, but does not mean to me that he cannot play on the first pair as a top guy. He's not just an offensive defenseman, a la Erik Karlsson.

What Im saying is he needs a reduction in minutes.
- aecliptic

Ok, maybe. That's not what you said though.

Fox comes behind John Carlson and Coltol Parayko and Dougie Hamilton? Quinn Hughes doesn't get picked #2 for you? Where is Dahlin?

Anyway, my point is even if you picked Fox #15 that means he is a top pairing defenseman. The initial comment was that Fox is not a top pairing guy, which is crazy to me. He lacks footspeed and physicality but is elite at everything else. Just because he needs a specific kind of partner doesn't mean he can't be THE guy
- picklerick

Dahlin is in that mix as well. Slavin too. I view Hughes as an offensive blueliner, my focus was on complete blue liner. He is there, just not at the level of some of the others. I think similar on Bouchard, who is improving defensively, but has the knock of being a PP specialist.

I said the list was in no particular order. Plus was not including Fox since he had been talked about previously. I was focused on others. When Fix is right, he is not overly physical, but finds a way to come out with the puck in his own zone and come up ice.

Quick contract details:
Jonathan Quick #NYR 
1-year extension: $1.55 million AAV

$1 million salary
$550,000 signing bonus

$300,000 potential performance bonuses
- 20 starts w/ .915 sv% or above = $75k
- 35 games played = $25k
- 40 games played = $50k
- 20 wins = $50k
- 25 wins = $100k

Modified NTC

Dahlin is in that mix as well. Slavin too. I view Hughes as an offensive blueliner, my focus was on complete blue liner. He is there, just not at the level of some of the others. I think similar on Bouchard, who is improving defensively, but has the knock of being a PP specialist.

I said the list was in no particular order. Plus was not including Fox since he had been talked about previously. I was focused on others. When Fix is right, he is not overly physical, but finds a way to come out with the puck in his own zone and come up ice.
- airjan23

Fox is almost completely reliant on his elite skating to be a good defender (nothing wrong with that), however he hasnt been right since last year.

So am I the only person who believes Fox is a top pairing defenseman?

So am I the only person who believes Fox is a top pairing defenseman?
- picklerick

I think he is. Prior to getting hurt in the playoffs last year he showed he was. Just needs to get back to 100% health wise

So am I the only person who believes Fox is a top pairing defenseman?
- picklerick

no - that's why i think he shouldnt be brought back at all this year

Lets keep firing the coach, maybe we will get one you guys like for more than a year.

So am I the only person who believes Fox is a top pairing defenseman?
- picklerick

Yes