When was this? Any link? What team?
- furio16

It was the deal to STL. Sanheim and Hayes for Krug and a 1st allegedly.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ph...ous-trade-talks-1.2019238

Sanheim could have been moved pre his extension. On the last year of his deal with maximum retention he could have been moved - and should have been. It was Krug that stopped the deal to St Louis.

I don’t see them moving Konecny now, especially with Jones going all in on trying to improve their image league wide.

Both players should have been moved pre extension. To get more assets, but more importantly to improve draft positioning.

Again, we have Michkov, Luchanko, Bonk - and say pick 7 this year. They are already talking about being eager to move this along. I’ll add Cates, Foerster, York, and Drysdale as Keith Jones would be upset if I didn’t. That group, plus say a 7th overall pick is the prize here? After a decade of bullpoop, and a “rebuild” by the triumvirate?

In what should have been a window to gather your high end pieces, they have failed to do that. Seasons thrown away, for what exactly?
- flyer_nutter

Yes but that was Fletcher. We may pick 7 sure but it seems like Hagens is dropping so it looks like another guy might fall to us. Of course they will need to get the sense that he will sign here if they pick him. Flyers also could move up or down via the lottery so it doesnt really matter where they fall. We could finish worst in the league and still potentially pick 11th. Where ever they pick is out of their hands. Lottery will decide.

It was the deal to STL. Sanheim and Hayes for Krug and a 1st allegedly.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ph...ous-trade-talks-1.2019238
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

It was Krug that nixed the deal. Sanheim's NTC hadn't kicked in yet.

It was the deal to STL. Sanheim and Hayes for Krug and a 1st allegedly.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ph...ous-trade-talks-1.2019238
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Sanheim didn’t reject any trade.

Yes but that was Fletcher. We may pick 7 sure but it seems like Hagens is dropping so it looks like another guy might fall to us. Of course they will need to get the sense that he will sign here if they pick him. Flyers also could move up or down via the lottery so it doesnt really matter where they fall. We could finish worst in the league and still potentially pick 11th. Where ever they pick is out of their hands. Lottery will decide.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I understand it was Fletcher.

It may be, let’s call it.. cruel - to say Briere’s tenure isn’t his own, but that’s how I see it.

They fired nobody other than Fletcher, and promoted his assistant to the GM role. Hell they even kept his other assistant GM in Flahr.

The Flyers have been run by essentially the same group of people since Hextall was fired. It’s all the same men, and nobody can tell me Fletcher somehow was a Tony Montana. Not when “collaboration” was constantly the buzzword during that time.

If Briere thinks he can move up so easily, I’d remind them of how the Demidov draft went. When they telegraphed how badly they wanted him.

Teams so rarely move those top picks. Michkov, number 5-7 this year, and Luchanko/Bonk. That’s not a successful core. Nowhere near it, yet they want to say the rebuild is nearly done?

They never even began. It’s the same half in, half out bullpoop.

It’s why I want them to offer sheet. To trade the picks they do have.

Because Daniel Briere has done a piss poor job of putting them into a position to milk the draft properly.

So yeah, go chase free agents, make the trades, and send out those of these picks - because you’ve proven yet again, that as an organization you have no clue how to rebuild properly through the draft.

It’s why I want them to offer sheet. To trade the picks they do have.

Because Daniel Briere has done a piss poor job of putting them into a position to milk the draft properly.

So yeah, go chase free agents, make the trades, and send out those of these picks - because you’ve proven yet again, that as an organization you have no clue how to rebuild properly through the draft.
- flyer_nutter

Not many offersheet options. MIN will match Rossi, Johnston has signed. Best they could do is maybe Dobson

Sanheim could have been moved pre his extension. On the last year of his deal with maximum retention he could have been moved - and should have been. It was Krug that stopped the deal to St Louis.

I don’t see them moving Konecny now, especially with Jones going all in on trying to improve their image league wide.

Both players should have been moved pre extension. To get more assets, but more importantly to improve draft positioning.

Again, we have Michkov, Luchanko, Bonk - and say pick 7 this year. They are already talking about being eager to move this along. I’ll add Cates, Foerster, York, and Drysdale as Keith Jones would be upset if I didn’t. That group, plus say a 7th overall pick is the prize here? After a decade of bullpoop, and a “rebuild” by the triumvirate?

In what should have been a window to gather your high end pieces, they have failed to do that. Seasons thrown away, for what exactly?
- flyer_nutter

For what exactly?

Exactly what I’ve been female doging about the last few years. My stomach would turn last year when people would make excuses and say they are enjoying them in playoff contention. Damn the draft position. That they were tired of seeing losing hockey. Just wanted meaningful games. Blah blah blah and like you said for what exactly?

Such a damn waste and as we see it cost them in position then they bombed the pick. And we’re right back to square one

Add in the narrative of cutter and mm future being destroyed in the mix of collapse last year and watching these tools extend Tk and get 25% of their games to go to ot and cost them position for this years draft is just more for what exactly.


I can’t wait to see what comes next

It’s why I want them to offer sheet. To trade the picks they do have.

Because Daniel Briere has done a piss poor job of putting them into a position to milk the draft properly.

So yeah, go chase free agents, make the trades, and send out those of these picks - because you’ve proven yet again, that as an organization you have no clue how to rebuild properly through the draft.
- flyer_nutter

Well for hopes sake we can’t have them do that. I totally get why you feel that way but once these bozo’s are fired in a year or two there will be a period of short time for hope the new guys get it. Same as when Fletcher was fired and briere hired.

Doing what you said would just add to the problem in a big way

I'm feeling more confident this will be Torts last year behind the bench. The narrative from the organization has been the team will be ready to compete as a true contender in the '26-'27 season. As of now, all the dead money is gone by that time. I would think it would be better to already have the HC in place for a year to install his system before the rebuild is officially over.

Of course they want Misa but they won too many games early in the season by hanging onto vets they didn’t need. Always in the same spot this time of year being so close to the top pick but oh so far. They’ll never learn.

Honestly with this draft though all they have to do is get a top 10 pick and whatever Center they take there is going to be the future 1C here. The road is wide open.

Now let’s just hope Briere doesn’t think he’s the smartest guy in the room again reaching on another Jett type.
- hereticpride

Jett is gonna be good, he is not as big of a reach as you think, I watched a long of gulph games , he definitely the best player on his team, and I can see easy 2 line center ad potentially 1 c

When you're a losing franchise with an unpopular coach calling the shots you gotta worry about stuff like the NCAA "loophole".

Funny how this was never a problem for them before.
- Tomahawk

It has nothing 2 do with the coach, he wanted the flyers to burn a year on his entry level deal, they didnt so he asking to be traded

They had plenty of opportunity with Sanheim, or Konecny to maximize value in a trade pre extension - and further ensure they picked lower in the draft.

Retaining those two was asinine, even after Krug cancelled the deal.

Everything else aside, the decision to not fully rebuild by moving those two players will be felt for a while.

Now yes, all you’ve got are assets in latter round picks to try to get higher end talent - or free agency.

Michkov, and pick #7 this year are not nearly close to enough. The Briere era is just a waste of time as currently set up.

Jones, and Briere are praying free agency saves them.
- flyer_nutter

It's not as bad as u think

I'm feeling more confident this will be Torts last year behind the bench. The narrative from the organization has been the team will be ready to compete as a true contender in the '26-'27 season. As of now, all the dead money is gone by that time. I would think it would be better to already have the HC in place for a year to install his system before the rebuild is officially over.
- Trox88

I agree about Torts. Hoping that Briere has a short list going in his back pocket since Jan. Gonna be a very important hire for Briere’s tenure.
Also I think they could end up with the 6th spot, maybe a little luck, the 5th. With Schaefer and Martone going in the top 5 for sure, the Flyers should get one of the top four centers. Hagens, Frondell, Misa, or Desnoyers. I’d be okay with any of those.

Some scoreboard love tonight. Both Anaheim and Seattle win and nudge closer.

They had no opportunity to move Sanheim. He has a NTC. They tried to move him already and he nixed it. Sanheim was nowhere near as good as hes been playing at the time as well. They cant trade him until Year 5 of his deal.

TK they could have moved but we dont know what kind of offers out there. If the Flyers got offers similar to what guys went for this season, im sure they would have jumped at it. 1 Late round 1st however doesnt really do it for me.

With TK signed long term perhaps they may look into moving him in the offseason. Im sure there are going to be a lot of teams looking to make a splash like CAR and NSH. If NSH could be a team that may not be looking to pick, they may want to get better now. They could also only be interest in a certain player that may be gone by the time they draft. NSH could be more interested in TK and a late 1st. They didnt sign Machessault and Samkos to rebuild.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

No one with a NTC has ever been moved before, eh?

It was the deal to STL. Sanheim and Hayes for Krug and a 1st allegedly.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/ph...ous-trade-talks-1.2019238
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Kriug killed the deal you dolt

It’s really nice that the Flyers apparently want a certain player in the draft. If he’s a legit top three pick, Briere certainly didn’t plan well enough to get him. I hate tanking (players and coaches should always try to win) but the way Briere handled the roster this year certainly doesn’t support his desire for a top three pick. Good luck if he thinks he can trade up from somewhere between 7 to 10 to a top three pick without grossly overpaying. This team simply makes no sense.

Yes but that was Fletcher. We may pick 7 sure but it seems like Hagens is dropping so it looks like another guy might fall to us. Of course they will need to get the sense that he will sign here if they pick him. Flyers also could move up or down via the lottery so it doesnt really matter where they fall. We could finish worst in the league and still potentially pick 11th. Where ever they pick is out of their hands. Lottery will decide.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Wrong...can drop a maximum of 2 spots.

It has nothing 2 do with the coach, he wanted the flyers to burn a year on his entry level deal, they didnt so he asking to be traded
- SlNlSTER

What I don't understand is why the Flyers so recently did it for York and Brink, but somehow said no to the prized top 5 pick.

Oh

And fire Torts right franking now. (Then hang up the phone)

What I don't understand is why the Flyers so recently did it for York and Brink, but somehow said no to the prized top 5 pick.
- MBFlyerfan

Well likely it was due to flyers hiring an inexperienced gm and a broadcaster as poho. I’m willing to give db maybe a little slack if he explained to cutter that he didn’t want him around the poopshow as db had just taken over weeks before.

And that’s a little slack not a lot. He clearly does not understand or didn’t at the time how to handle too 5 pick talent and burning elc and college for 1 year routine with those top 5 pick talents.

What he isn’t given slack for is regardless of how the player reacted and the temper tantrum showed by demanding trade and ghosting is the fact that he and only he had the power through the cba to tell the player he wasn’t trading him.

Cutter was NEVER gonna sit in college for 4 years to become a free agent. No top 5 pick is ever going to do that again. There’s simply too much money being risked. Cutter would’ve signed just like he did with Anaheim and it would’ve been a nothing burger.

Again this is what is risked by hiring inexperienced front office. Pile on all the other sorely lacking things of this franchise and you get decades of ineptitude. Sorry state for a once proud franchise

Really funny seeing people still defend this schitt show.

Really funny seeing people still defend this schitt show.
- hello it's me 2050

It’s easier to believe in the lie than deal with the reality

What I don't understand is why the Flyers so recently did it for York and Brink, but somehow said no to the prized top 5 pick.
- MBFlyerfan

plus you can add in he was chucks right hand man. clearly, he was in on whatever plan they had in place.

should have been seamless. this was Danny putting his stamp on the team...