Tavares isn't taking a 50% pay cut to stay. I mean, maybe, weirder things have happened. But I seriously doubt it.

Tavares isn't taking a 50% pay cut to stay. I mean, maybe, weirder things have happened. But I seriously doubt it.
- GalacticStone

I doubt it.
He'll be asking for $7m per min imo.

Tavares isn't taking a 50% pay cut to stay. I mean, maybe, weirder things have happened. But I seriously doubt it.
- GalacticStone

Tavares' previous "discount" made him the 2nd highest paid player in the NHL at the time.

He's not playing for peanuts.

Tavares isn't taking a 50% pay cut to stay. I mean, maybe, weirder things have happened. But I seriously doubt it.
- GalacticStone

You're right, but we can dream.

You're right, but we can dream.
- Whipper

Seems futile.
Its the leafs.....dreams arent an option.
😞

Reports stating the Canes pursue Marner in FA. Go nuts. He'll get you to the dance, then griddy all the way to the first tee.

Reports stating the Canes pursue Marner in FA. Go nuts. He'll get you to the dance, then griddy all the way to the first tee.
- Whipper

Can the resident Canes fan chime in on this -BINGO what do you say? Is Marner the missing piece to lead the Canes to the promised land?

Yet Marner has more career playoff points than all of them and has led the team in scoring multiple times. There have been years where Matthews had 1 goal in the playoffs. Does that erase everything else he's ever done?

It's a stupid argument. There is nobody available who you can logically replace him with at a lower price that gives you a better chance to win.
- Rare_Jewel

You won't replace MM but that doesn't mean you have to overpay or even stay the course. The "better chance to win" is a fools argument. Wild poop happens and nobody knows. If I'm Tree I'm happy to wait. If he signs for a number you're happy with great. If he prefers 7x14 and refuses 8x13 then so be it.

Hypothetically, I toss short term deals at Benn and Bennett and Marchand and shake poop up.

Maybe it works ...maybe it doesn't ...but you can't be scared of change.

Can the resident Canes fan chime in on this -BINGO what do you say? Is Marner the missing piece to lead the Canes to the promised land?
- Cush29

Bingo is currently busy chasing mammoths in the great mountains of Saskatchewan.

You're right, but we can dream.
- Whipper

I think the only way that happens is via some kind of backroom handshake deal involving a lucrative job in the organization after he retires as a player. He agrees to a major hometeam discount to play his last few years out and then becomes assistant director of scouting or director of player development, corporate community ambassador, or some such.

You won't replace MM but that doesn't mean you have to overpay or even stay the course. The "better chance to win" is a fools argument. Wild poop happens and nobody knows. If I'm Tree I'm happy to wait. If he signs for a number you're happy with great. If he prefers 7x14 and refuses 8x13 then so be it.

Hypothetically, I toss short term deals at Benn and Bennett and Marchand and shake poop up.

Maybe it works ...maybe it doesn't ...but you can't be scared of change.
- The Law

Again, letting a player in his prime walk and signing broken, end of their career players would be the most dumbass Leafy thing I've ever seen.

If the Leafs want to "change" something, keep changing the depth players and over the hill players and rebuild the supporting cast.

You won't replace MM but that doesn't mean you have to overpay or even stay the course. The "better chance to win" is a fools argument. Wild poop happens and nobody knows. If I'm Tree I'm happy to wait. If he signs for a number you're happy with great. If he prefers 7x14 and refuses 8x13 then so be it.

Hypothetically, I toss short term deals at Benn and Bennett and Marchand and shake poop up.

Maybe it works ...maybe it doesn't ...but you can't be scared of change.
- The Law

Again, letting your leading point scoring player in his prime walk and signing broken, end of their career players would be the most dumbass Leafy thing I've ever seen. I'd say staying the course gives you a 40% of success but 40% is still higher than 0% which is what they would get going to the retirement home to replace core players.

If the Leafs want to "change" something, keep changing the depth players and rebuild the supporting cast.

I'd love to see a list of examples where a team got rid of their #1 point producer (for NOTHING), replaced them with UFAs in their mid to late 30s and then won a Cup. I'd be shocked if you can even find one.

Kudos to Scabeh and his Habs for taking two points from Florida.
- GalacticStone

And you guys didn't bother to help taking two points from the Sens.

It's not really an indictment of the entire core, ONE of those things is not like the others.
- Whipper

Does this chart mean that 91, 88 and 34 don't show up in games 1-4?

All 4 of these guys bare a similar responsibility ...win or lose.

For me the important take-away is that, Matthews and Marner in particular, look like guys that have let the pressure get to them in big playoff games. You can see it in their faces when the stress ramps up.

We know it's a real thing. We know that part of Treeliving's strategy to help those two was to bring in a few "characters" to help manage the anxiety level in the room. Reaves, for example, sucks at hockey but is by all accounts was brought in to increase the "chill the (frank) out level" of the room.

As an aside ...I'm the Ryan Reaves of my house. If we're hosting my wife does everything b/c she's full of anxiety ...I do nothing (except hit the LCBO) and tell her and the kids that it's all good and to chill the (frank) out ...and our parties are great.

I think the only way that happens is via some kind of backroom handshake deal involving a lucrative job in the organization after he retires as a player. He agrees to a major hometeam discount to play his last few years out and then becomes assistant director of scouting or director of player development, corporate community ambassador, or some such.
- GalacticStone

*finds his kombucha dealer*

And you guys didn't bother to help taking two points from the Sens.

- Scabeh

Jake Evans, 2.8 AAV.

Look who’s starting to get game ready. Yikes Avalanche

https://x.com/jtbourne/st...&t=zXygQ9RZlVYvHUlIXsYVmg

Jake Evans, 2.8 AAV.


- Rare_Jewel

I'm glad he accepted less than the stupid amount someone would have given him july first.

Look who’s starting to get game ready. Yikes Avalanche

https://x.com/jtbourne/st...&t=zXygQ9RZlVYvHUlIXsYVmg
- Canada Cup

Cap circumcision.

Look who’s starting to get game ready. Yikes Avalanche

https://x.com/jtbourne/st...&t=zXygQ9RZlVYvHUlIXsYVmg
- Canada Cup

I don't know CC, the man hasn't played in three years.

Aside from Mario Lemieux and to a much lesser extent Guy Lafleur, both generational talents, I can't remember a player that came back after such a long time and still had a high enough level to be a major contributor for his team.

I don't know CC, the man hasn't played in three years.

Aside from Mario Lemieux and to a much lesser extent Guy Lafleur, both generational talents, I can't remember a player that came back after such a long time and still had a high enough level to be a major contributor for his team.
- Scabeh

Foppa came back on one foot that one time!

I don't know CC, the man hasn't played in three years.

Aside from Mario Lemieux and to a much lesser extent Guy Lafleur, both generational talents, I can't remember a player that came back after such a long time and still had a high enough level to be a major contributor for his team.
- Scabeh

Maybe not a major contributor but the Av’s are playing pretty well right now and he’s bound to help somewhat. Amazing that either Colorado or Dallas goes out in the first round.

Reports stating the Canes pursue Marner in FA. Go nuts. He'll get you to the dance, then griddy all the way to the first tee.
- Whipper

"All marner's fault"

Maybe not a major contributor but the Av’s are playing pretty well right now and he’s bound to help somewhat. Amazing that either Colorado or Dallas goes out in the first round.
- Canada Cup

Definitely a difference maker. It would solidify their top 9.

Maybe not a major contributor but the Av’s are playing pretty well right now and he’s bound to help somewhat. Amazing that either Colorado or Dallas goes out in the first round.
- Canada Cup

Amazing or stupid but yeah, what a series that will be.