Unless they are tanking next year I don’t see where he fits especially with Brink looking like he may be useful as a middle six role player.
- psuhockey

They didn't tank this year or years prior. They are not tanking next year.

They will look to add. getting a goalie is something they will def do.

Unless they are tanking next year I don’t see where he fits especially with Brink looking like he may be useful as a middle six role player.
- psuhockey

Curious what the plan for goaltending will be. At a minimum a team save % .900 will be needed to be competitive, anything less might as well be tanking for McKenna. Currently, the Sens and Rangers are in the wildcard spots. Sens .906% and Rangers .904%. respectively. Much like Rocky and the PP, not sure why Dilly needs to survive as the goaltending coach.

They didn't tank this year or years prior. They are not tanking next year.

They will look to add. getting a goalie is something they will def do.
- hello it's me 2050

Having Pelletier on the roster next year is tanking to me. If you want to use noncompeting as a better description so be it.

This summer is going to be interesting because they could very well try and improve the roster but the guys they want may have zero interest in coming to Philadelphia. Tortorella will be the first domino to fall if they actually want to improve next year because no one is signing on to play for him.

I think we're over valuing Forester a bit. Cates has 2 less points in 3 less games played. Forester does have a nice looking shot but asking to pick between the two I kinda don't really care to be honest. I'm indifferent to either staying or going.

Having Pelletier on the roster next year is tanking to me. If you want to use noncompeting as a better description so be it.

This summer is going to be interesting because they could very well try and improve the roster but the guys they want may have zero interest in coming to Philadelphia. Tortorella will be the first domino to fall if they actually want to improve next year because no one is signing on to play for him.
- psuhockey[/quote

I expect/hope that Torts and his coaches will be gone at the end of the season. I have a feeling that DB will draft somebody with our 1st pick and then use our remaining draft picks to trade for veterans. You may find more Veterans willing to play in Philly if Torts is gone? Only time will tell if DB goes for the rebuild or the re-tool?

Having Pelletier on the roster next year is tanking to me. If you want to use noncompeting as a better description so be it.

This summer is going to be interesting because they could very well try and improve the roster but the guys they want may have zero interest in coming to Philadelphia. Tortorella will be the first domino to fall if they actually want to improve next year because no one is signing on to play for him.
- psuhockey

there is no conscience effort or plan by management for the flyers to tank.

Having Pelletier on the roster is not tanking. Every roster has a guy or 2 who may not be up to snuff.

agree they will not entice anyone to come here even if Torts isn't the coach. this team has had what a decade of losing. The current roster is not very good. their prospect pool is nothing special in any way. management is not good. unless a severe overpay players with talent will stay far away. only way that changes is by winning. first need establish that all important culture.

how many teams had 4 - 30 goal scorers last year? This year potentially?
- hello its me 2050

Not many teams, but teams that will seriously contend, i.e. Tampa, Colorado and Winnipeg. My only point is the Flyers actually have 4 wingers that coulld score 30+ goals if they had a true 1C and 2C and a even a decent powerplay. If Luchanko can be that 2C, and I think he will be, it really comes down to getting that elusive 1C and then at least 1 big box can be checked off for the Flyers in their rebuild. That is why I don't understand the idea of wanting to win as many games as possible down the stretch, its just hurts the team regardless of whether they want to use or trade their top pick. Then again, maybe that is why Deslauriers is in the lineup.

I think we're over valuing Forester a bit. Cates has 2 less points in 3 less games played. Forester does have a nice looking shot but asking to pick between the two I kinda don't really care to be honest. I'm indifferent to either staying or going.
- Pelle31Forever

You bring up a good point. The one knock I have had with Foerster ever since I watched him play after the Flyers drafted him was he had a great shot but didn't use it nearly enough. When I dug in further I could understand why, he just doesn't know how to create space for himself to use that shot as a weapon. He still doesn't. Currently Foerster is 6th on the team in shots with only 107 for the year, about 50 less shots than TK, Michkov and Tippet, even though Foerster is playing the same number of minutes per game as Tippet and Michkov. If Foerster created that space for himself and had a decent center to feed him the puck, he might lead the team is goals scored.

I still think this team has a short run in them that costs them a bottom 5 finish based on record. TK has not scored in a hundred years and MM is in a cold spell. They will snap out of it at some point. They need more "injuries" to finish bottom 5.

You bring up a good point. The one knock I have had with Foerster ever since I watched him play after the Flyers drafted him was he had a great shot but didn't use it nearly enough. When I dug in further I could understand why, he just doesn't know how to create space for himself to use that shot as a weapon. He still doesn't. Currently Foerster is 6th on the team in shots with only 107 for the year, about 50 less shots than TK, Michkov and Tippet, even though Foerster is playing the same number of minutes per game as Tippet and Michkov. If Foerster created that space for himself and had a decent center to feed him the puck, he might lead the team is goals scored.
- jd250

For sure if Forester played with a center with more offensive upside his numbers, specifically goals, would increase.

I don't think either of the two suck, but I don't think we should lose our marbles if the team decides to move off of either one of them.

Having Pelletier on the roster is not tanking. Every roster has a guy or 2 who may not be up to snuff.
- hello it's me 2050

There is no question most teams have a couple of dudes like Pelletier but where does he fit on the Flyers roster?

His only two spots are LW on Konecny’s line or 4th line left wing. If he’s on Konecny’s line they aren’t even trying. I don’t see management liking him on the 4th line. Think they want someone there with more size.

I still think this team has a short run in them that costs them a bottom 5 finish based on record. TK has not scored in a hundred years and MM is in a cold spell. They will snap out of it at some point. They need more "injuries" to finish bottom 5.
- mickel25

I would love TK and Michkov to go on a heater down the stretch here, just as long as the Flyers lose as many games as possible.

Pelletier has been a no show thus far in my opinion. He was supposed to be this "energy" guy. Haven't really seen much from him.
- mickel25

I would like to see him in better role then 4th line with Deslauriers and Abols. You want a good view of him, get him in a better spot. Also I heard he can play center, why not get him some games there and actually evaluate his game. Poehling is who he is. I would have been putting Pelletier in the middle with Konecny and Forester.

Tippett - Couturier - Michkov
Forester - Pelletier - Konecny
Brink - Cates - Lycksell
Deslauriers - Peohling - Abols

I don't need to keep seeing Poehling higher in the lineup.

Not many teams, but teams that will seriously contend, i.e. Tampa, Colorado and Winnipeg. My only point is the Flyers actually have 4 wingers that coulld score 30+ goals if they had a true 1C and 2C and a even a decent powerplay. If Luchanko can be that 2C, and I think he will be, it really comes down to getting that elusive 1C and then at least 1 big box can be checked off for the Flyers in their rebuild. That is why I don't understand the idea of wanting to win as many games as possible down the stretch, its just hurts the team regardless of whether they want to use or trade their top pick. Then again, maybe that is why Deslauriers is in the lineup.
- jd250

many teams, with better rosters, have players that could score 30. get back to me when they do.

ND is in the lineup because the coach wants him there; simple as that. There is no sneaky underlying tanking motive. Hathaway is hurt. Who comes out when he is healthy? Pelletier I bet.

still pushing this rebuild narrative. good stuff.

I still think this team has a short run in them that costs them a bottom 5 finish based on record. TK has not scored in a hundred years and MM is in a cold spell. They will snap out of it at some point. They need more "injuries" to finish bottom 5.
- mickel25

I don't see it because I don't think the goaltending is good. They might make some games close but I don't think they will go on any heater.

And really I think the team is done with Torts so not sure they will be out there playing for their coach.

You bring up a good point. The one knock I have had with Foerster ever since I watched him play after the Flyers drafted him was he had a great shot but didn't use it nearly enough. When I dug in further I could understand why, he just doesn't know how to create space for himself to use that shot as a weapon. He still doesn't. Currently Foerster is 6th on the team in shots with only 107 for the year, about 50 less shots than TK, Michkov and Tippet, even though Foerster is playing the same number of minutes per game as Tippet and Michkov. If Foerster created that space for himself and had a decent center to feed him the puck, he might lead the team is goals scored.
- jd250

Foerster does not have the skating ability to create his own space consistently. He really could benefit from playing with a center who the Flyers currently do not have on the roster. A plus skating center with the ability to pass. I believe if he could play next to center with those abilities, his shots attempted would increase.

There is no question most teams have a couple of dudes like Pelletier but where does he fit on the Flyers roster?

His only two spots are LW on Konecny’s line or 4th line left wing. If he’s on Konecny’s line they aren’t even trying. I don’t see management liking him on the 4th line. Think they want someone there with more size.
- psuhockey

He doesn't fit (4th line) since they wont give him a look with better players. Again it is a mismanagement of a plyer. There is/was no harm in playing him up in the lineup to see if there is anything there.

you acquire a former 1st rd pick then play him 6 minutes a night with slugs. What's the point? should have waived him let him help the phantoms if not going to provide him am opportunity.

I would love TK and Michkov to go on a heater down the stretch here, just as long as the Flyers lose as many games as possible.
- jd250

I hope tk continues to struggle.

He doesn't fit (4th line) since they wont give him a look with better players. Again it is a mismanagement of a plyer. There is/was no harm in playing him up in the lineup to see if there is anything there.

you acquire a former 1st rd pick then play him 6 minutes a night with slugs. What's the point? should have waived him let him help the phantoms if not going to provide him am opportunity.
- hello it's me 2050

This is what I don't get. You can't tell me Briere isn't looking at that and going "what the hell".

I know coaches dictate the lineup but I would need my coach to explain why he is not putting that player higher in the lineup.

Next season should see Deslaurier in the AHL for the final year of that deal.

This is what I don't get. You can't tell me Briere isn't looking at that and going "what the hell".

I know coaches dictate the lineup but I would need my coach to explain why he is not putting that player higher in the lineup.

Next season should see Deslaurier in the AHL for the final year of that deal.
- J35Bacher

I have no idea as I have very little confidence in him at this stage.

I have said it before I think ND retires. Takes a job to recoup his lost money. If he doesn't I think they carry him on the roster. they are the gold standard cant treat a vet like that and waive him. ND is true flyer. a warrior.

He doesn't fit (4th line) since they wont give him a look with better players. Again it is a mismanagement of a plyer. There is/was no harm in playing him up in the lineup to see if there is anything there.

you acquire a former 1st rd pick then play him 6 minutes a night with slugs. What's the point? should have waived him let him help the phantoms if not going to provide him am opportunity.
- hello it's me 2050

I agree but they wanted to call up Lycksell for some reason and give him 3rd line minutes. Both look like nothing players so don’t really care one way or the other.

I agree but they wanted to call up Lycksell for some reason and give him 3rd line minutes. Both look like nothing players so don’t really care one way or the other.
- psuhockey

they have had plenty of time to look at Ollie, clearly they don't think much of him.

you give a pelletier a look then move on if noting there. zero sense acquiring him otherwise.

Fedotov in goal tonight. Fun fact, Fedotov's save % is .002 worse then Ersson at the moment.

they have had plenty of time to look at Ollie, clearly they don't think much of him.

you give a pelletier a look then move on if noting there. zero sense acquiring him otherwise.
- hello it's me 2050

I think Pelletier was acquired just for optics. Dumping Frost and Farabee for Kuzmenko and a 2nd rd pick would have looked real bad to most fans. Pelletier even if they don’t use him right made the deal an easier sell.

I think Pelletier was acquired just for optics. Dumping Frost and Farabee for Kuzmenko and a 2nd rd pick would have looked real bad to most fans. Pelletier even if they don’t use him right made the deal an easier sell.
- psuhockey

disagree as he was waived and could have had him for free. makes it look worse to me.