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              1,2 I dont think you can go wrong but I would take hagen at 3 - SlNlSTER 
That’s more than fair, there is little separation between Hagen and Frondell in my eyes. Same between Schaefer and Misa.                 | 
          
         
       
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            mickel25
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              Would anybody make an offer of some sorts for Levi from Buffalo.?  I think Buffalo messed the kid up and I believe he can good once again. - WhiskeyMan 
This can't be true. I was told by multiple Sabres posters that he was a can't miss prospect. 
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              This can't be true. I was told by multiple Sabres posters that he was a can't miss prospect. - mickel25 
Doing just fine in ahl.  He is on the last year of contract.  I would make a run at him
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            Just5
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              I’m hoping for frondell this kid has a great toolbox                | 
          
         
       
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              I'm curious to see what is Noah Cates.  His hot streak has now evaporated.  Cates gonna get signed long-term to lock down both bottom 6 center spots with Couts basically untradeable.  If he finishes strong, might feel more optimistic.  I do not want the Flyers to sign Sam Bennett because he is another middle six center at best.  He has now 4 40 point seasons and Cates with none.  Would not mind more financial flexibility to spend more on top 6 talent and fill out the bottom 6 with what is left. - Trox88 
Couts is not making the progressed I hoped he would. To me he seems like a 3C now. That being said Coots should be our #1C. We dont have any realistic option, he is not going to improve so until theres a better option he should be there and allow our younger players to be sheltered and played against proper talent. Cates could be a 3C, I dont know that his ceiling is any higher than that. It wouldnt hurt to give him #2C mins to see. The 3 C role can then be utilized for your young developing players and as they develop you can start moving guys down. Obviously the only C in the pipeline is Luchenko right now so Id add a short 1-2 year player to just fill a spot until Luchenko is ready or whomever we draft this draft
 
I think given how this year has gone, you gotta explore moving TK before the draft.
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              Doing just fine in ahl.  He is on the last year of contract.  I would make a run at him - WhiskeyMan 
I would do the same. 
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              No to all mentioned and not even sure why he would suggest them as options. 
 
First piece of business is getting into top 4 of the draft.  I believe they need to come away with one of Schaefer, Misa, Martone or Hagens.  Maybe at 5 Frondell. 
 
2nd, Figure out the coaching.  I can't see a way Torts is back as a lame duck coach.  Also I don't think he goes into the FO.  I think they need to make a clean break to move forward. 
 
3rd I think their best course of action is making a hockey trade for a RFA to fill a center roll.  I look at McTavish in Anaheim.  If your having trouble signing York can that be a match in some sort of deal.   
 
Be aggressively smart.  I think there are teams who might miss the playoffs that will be ready to make changes and might be a good time to make a trade.  But you have to be willing to move guys like Cates, Forester, York if it makes sense.  Those guys are nice but shouldn't be guys to hold up a good deal. 
 
Lastly, let's get rid of some of this "fat" on the roster.  Sent Deslauriers to AHL.  If your keeping Cates then I don't need Ryan Poehling.  I don't need to continue to see the same roster just marketed differently.  If there were teams on Risto, then let's make the best deal we can. 
 
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              Would anybody make an offer of some sorts for Levi from Buffalo.?  I think Buffalo messed the kid up and I believe he can good once again. - WhiskeyMan 
Flyers ace goaltending coaches will fix him                 | 
          
         
       
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            xShoot4WarAmpsx
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              No to all mentioned and not even sure why he would suggest them as options. 
 
First piece of business is getting into top 4 of the draft.  I believe they need to come away with one of Schaefer, Misa, Martone or Hagens.  Maybe at 5 Frondell. 
 
2nd, Figure out the coaching.  I can't see a way Torts is back as a lame duck coach.  Also I don't think he goes into the FO.  I think they need to make a clean break to move forward. 
 
3rd I think their best course of action is making a hockey trade for a RFA to fill a center roll.  I look at McTavish in Anaheim.  If your having trouble signing York can that be a match in some sort of deal.   
 
Be aggressively smart.  I think there are teams who might miss the playoffs that will be ready to make changes and might be a good time to make a trade.  But you have to be willing to move guys like Cates, Forester, York if it makes sense.  Those guys are nice but shouldn't be guys to hold up a good deal. 
 
Lastly, let's get rid of some of this "fat" on the roster.  Sent Deslauriers to AHL.  If your keeping Cates then I don't need Ryan Poehling.  I don't need to continue to see the same roster just marketed differently.  If there were teams on Risto, then let's make the best deal we can. - J35Bacher 
I dont agree with Points 3 and parts of 5. While I wont be upset if they add a guy like McTavish, I dont think its needed or changes much. You gotta give to get and the Flyers are thin on assets. We got a good chance to get a potential top C this draft, unless you get an opportunity and plan to take Schaefer instead of a C, it doesnt make sense. IMO Schaefer is going first. Chicago has a #1 C and SJ is pretty good at C already as well. I could see then both going for D or wing, possible trading back depending on where they think their guy will go. My belief is Chicago would want Schaefer for sure
 
As for Part 5. I dont consider Poehling or Cates to have any relevance to each other. Poehling is a 4C and Cates a 3C. I would say Coots would be a bigger reason to move Cates than Poehling but unless you got a #1 and #2C Coots wont be the #3 guys so Cates is an ideal fit until Luchenko is ready. This is why I think bringing back Giroux could be good. Let him finish his career here and be a placeholder C until we got the guys we need. 
 
Flyers need players in the lineup that arent long term pieces. There should always be 2 spots where you say if a guy impresses I can sit or move these guys to put them in the lineup. That was my biggest peeve with the Seeler resigning. He should have easily been a guy that could be moved for Andrae if he was ready which he has shown he is.                  | 
          
         
       
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              I’m hoping for frondell this kid has a great toolbox - Just5 
I like Frondell since he has the ceiling of a 1C, and a floor of a 2C, so it wouldn't be a bad pick. There are concerns however that Frondell had a slow start to this season and some believe he is propped up by playing with Eklund. Then again, others think Eklund is propperd up by Frondell.  I would be happy with Frondell and Luchanko down the middle for the Flyers.                 | 
          
         
       
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              Don’t know about catching Buff, didn’t they score on themselves last night                 | 
          
         
       
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              Another big time pens win                 | 
          
         
       
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              Saw this tonight 
https://youtu.be/JYxj67lnLLc?si=FIvvl5UP5FCc4ntZ 
 
Not sure if there is any validity to it - WhiskeyMan 
I mean even if so, theres not likely a high ceiling for him. My initial thoughts were probably a 3rd or 4th line checker based on what was provided. Its def a gamble the flyer should take, it doesnt hurt to roll the dice on him and hope theres more to him. I just dont see anything to be overly excited about.
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              I’m hoping for frondell this kid has a great toolbox - Just5 
He looks like a future NHL'er for sure.  He's a solid kid, even now...playing against men.  
 
I will say, I think, if they can't get Hagans or Misa, I would take the swing at McQueen.  yes, i'm a size (mc)queen, but he's SO talented and dynamic.  His upside is much higher than Frondell.  He's gonna take more time than a Hagans or Misa or Frondell, but a huge presence down the middle with skill...that's something we haven't had really since Giroux era Prime Coots  or even first couple years Keith Primeau 
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              I was watching the western Michigan game.  Bump was clearly the best player in the game.  Even so he has a limited skill set.  Sort of looks like a raffl out there with better deking skills. Very good shot. Poor passing/vision on the PP.  doesn’t PK from what I could tell.    
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              He looks like a future NHL'er for sure.  He's a solid kid, even now...playing against men.   
 
I will say, I think, if they can't get Hagans or Misa, I would take the swing at McQueen.  yes, i'm a size (mc)queen, but he's SO talented and dynamic.  His upside is much higher than Frondell.  He's gonna take more time than a Hagans or Misa or Frondell, but a huge presence down the middle with skill...that's something we haven't had really since Giroux era Prime Coots  or even first couple years Keith Primeau - Wingdestroyer 
I’m fine with taking the swing rather than the safe desnoyers pick.  I’ve heard McQueen is really heating up and his physicality is fine coming off the injury                  | 
          
         
       
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              I continue to be shocked by the fall of James Hagens.  He was considered to be the next great prospect heading into this season.  35 games in a freshman year of college has changed his perception.  That change might turn out to be correct, but some team could be getting a generational talent outside the top 4 now.                  | 
          
         
       
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              I’m fine with taking the swing rather than the safe desnoyers pick.  I’ve heard McQueen is really heating up and his physicality is fine coming off the injury - Just5 
Well apparently, Jonesy was on local radio today speaking about the importance of size to be successful in the playoffs.  This roster has a lot of reshaping on the horizon apparently.  McQueen fits the bill.  
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