Striiker
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York to Detroit does make a ton of sense. I think the would have to add one of their firsts but depending on who’s available, getting another top 10 pick would be huge for this team.
It’s a shame Tippett’s value has tanked. Is really the only other trade chip they have besides their picks to get something done. Maybe Bonk but they love him too much. - psuhockey
I don't think Tippets value was ever high. Flyers rushed and overpaid IMO. |
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WhiskeyMan
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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Danny is the hardest working GM in all of sports. His on-ice results since he took over the Flyers are unmatchable. Waited at the right moment to trade Farabee and Frost and got a very good return. It took 2 years for him to move Laughton. All that culture and leadership he brings to the Leafs just doesn’t show up on the scoreboard. He adds a lot of value to that team.
Just goes to show you these players that Danny overrates are not very good and he still doesn’t know or understand when to sell at high value. Hopefully, he also realizes that Laughton and like are not as important (or good) as he wants to believe.
Need to also give both Farabee and Frost more than 1/3 of a year to get acclimated in Calgary. They had to reconfigure their game after all the offense was sucked out of them. Let’s see how both do with a full offseason n Calgary. - Striiker
Why do you need players more than 1/3 of a season to get acclimated? That is just stupid. Why would Calgary make the trade then? They are in a playoff push and don't have time for them to get acclimated. They were in a better place before the trade.
So Toronto fans should wait until the playoffs for Laughton to get acclimated before criticizing the trade?
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Striiker
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Joined: 10.09.2020
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Let me see, Forester, 23 season - 33 points. 24 season - 32 points in 6 less games. yeah not as many goals, but not too bad.
yes Tippet has taken a step back.
Cates 29 points - not as good as his first season with 38 points but better than his 23 season 18 points.
Brink 33 points- better than 23 points last season. - WhiskeyMan
How about York and Zamula? What about Frost and Farabee. The goalies? Many more have regressed/no improvement than improvement. Even the improvement isn’t anything eye grabbing. |
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psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 03.25.2011
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I don't think Tippets value was ever high. Flyers rushed and overpaid IMO. - Striiker
The majority of GMs can’t help themselves with someone like Tippett: big fast pulls off highlight real goals from time to time. The profile is far more tantalizing then the production and there are always a few who think they could be the ones to get more out of him. The 7 years left on the contract though easily scares them away.
There are still dump enough GMs in LA, Anaheim and Buffalo to get something done but I don’t even know if the Flyers would be willing. |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Flyers lose, Buffalo wins.
Buffalo only 3 points back of Flyers with 2 games against each other. Nashville is 5 points back.
Flyers have left:
TOR
MON
BUF
NSH
MON
NYR
NYI
OTT
CLB
BUF
With the Flyers goaltending they could realistically lose 8 of 10 there.
I don't see any easy wins and all teams that tend to beat the Flyers.
TOP 4, hopefully top 3 pick here we come. - J35Bacher
The Candiens, Senators, Blue Jackets, Rangers and Islanders should all be still fighting over the two wildcard spots so they should have plenty of incentive to win. BUffalo is probably sick of tanking so I think they should win at least one of those games. Toronto should win but then again the Flyers seem to show up against the better teams, and Nashville is hit or miss. So yes, there is a chance the Flyers could lose 8 out of the next 10.
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Striiker
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Joined: 10.09.2020
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Why do you need players more than 1/3 of a season to get acclimated? That is just stupid. Why would Calgary make the trade then? They are in a playoff push and don't have time for them to get acclimated. They were in a better place before the trade.
So Toronto fans should wait until the playoffs for Laughton to get acclimated before criticizing the trade? - WhiskeyMan
Great take. You prove every day why your just a terrible poster.
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Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 10.09.2020
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The majority of GMs can’t help themselves with someone like Tippett: big fast pulls off highlight real goals from time to time. The profile is far more tantalizing then the production and there are always a few who think they could be the ones to get more out of him. The 7 years left on the contract though easily scares them away.
There are still dump enough GMs in LA, Anaheim and Buffalo to get something done but I don’t even know if the Flyers would be willing. - psuhockey
That is the funny and scary part. |
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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How about York and Zamula? What about Frost and Farabee. The goalies? Many more have regressed/no improvement than improvement. Even the improvement isn’t anything eye grabbing. - Striiker
So let me understand something. Do you think just because a player puts on a Flyers jersey they have to develop into a really good player, otherwise its a failure of the caoching staff? I mean, York has had a down year this year, but last year he took a big step forward. Zamula was an undrafted free agent, so what was his ceiling realistically? The fact that he can play bottom pairing in the NHL is already a success. You see what Frost and Farabee are doing in Calgary. Is Calgary's coaching staff also failing? Laughton so far has not meshed with the Leafs, does that mean Berube is not a good coach? |
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Striiker
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Joined: 10.09.2020
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So let me understand something. Do you think just because a player puts on a Flyers jersey they have to develop into a really good player, otherwise its a failure of the caoching staff? I mean, York has had a down year, but last year he took a big step last year. Zamula was an undrafted free agent, so what his ceiling realistically? You see what Frost and Farabee are doing in Calgary. Is Calgary's coaching staff also failing? Laughton so far has not meshed with the Leafs, does that mean Berube is not a good coach? - jd250
Whenever a player is playing well you slobber all over the coaches giving them credit. When they are not playing well you blame the player. Can't have it both ways.
At the end of the day most of the Flyers younger players have regressed or stayed the same under this coaching staff you rave about. I am sure you disagree despite the proof in their play right in front of you. Not one player has taken off. Not a one. |
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Why do you need players more than 1/3 of a season to get acclimated? That is just stupid. Why would Calgary make the trade then? They are in a playoff push and don't have time for them to get acclimated. They were in a better place before the trade.
So Toronto fans should wait until the playoffs for Laughton to get acclimated before criticizing the trade? - WhiskeyMan
Brandon Carlo from the Bruins was traded to the Leafs for a higher prospect Minten and a 2026 1st round pick, so arguably the Leafs gave up more to Boston than to Philly. Carlo has 1 assist in 8 games so far. |
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Whenever a player is playing well you slobber all over the coaches giving them credit. When they are not playing well you blame the player. Can't have it both ways.
At the end of the day most of the Flyers younger players have regressed or stayed the same under this coaching staff you rave about. I am sure you disagree despite the proof in their play right in front of you. Not one player has taken off. Not a one. - Striiker
Hmm ... let's see. Risto is playing the best hockey of his career. Sanheim just played for the 4 nations. Cates and Brink have taken big steps forward this year. TK has flourished under Torts. Michkov is only 2 points behind Celebrini in rookie scoring. Foerster hasn't taken off but is having another solid season. I think the stats on this team would be much better if they had 2 things: goaltending and a power play. I don't blame the Flyers coaches for the performance of their goaltending, but its absolutely fair to blame them for the embarrassingly ineffective power play. That is why I have repeatedly called for Rocky to either be replaced or the coaching staff augmented with a dedicated powerplay coach. |
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Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 10.09.2020
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Hmm ... let's see. Risto is playing the best hockey of his career. Sanheim just played for the 4 nations. Cates and Brink have taken big steps forward this year. TK has flourished under Torts. Michkov is only 2 points behind Celebrini in rookie scoring. Foerster hasn't taken off but is having another solid season. I think the stats on this team would be much better if they had 2 things: goaltending and a power play. I don't blame the Flyers coaches for the performance of their goaltending, but its absolutely fair to blame them for the embarrassingly ineffective power play. That is why I have repeatedly called for Rocky to either be replaced or the coaching staff augmented with a dedicated powerplay coach. - jd250
Go Flyers. On their way to cup contention any day now. Do you even read what you post?
Giving the head coach credit for MM takes the cake.
Flyers goalie coaches get a free pass for the goalie play? |
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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Hmm ... let's see. Risto is playing the best hockey of his career. Sanheim just played for the 4 nations. Cates and Brink have taken big steps forward this year. TK has flourished under Torts. Michkov is only 2 points behind Celebrini in rookie scoring. Foerster hasn't taken off but is having another solid season. I think the stats on this team would be much better if they had 2 things: goaltending and a power play. I don't blame the Flyers coaches for the performance of their goaltending, but its absolutely fair to blame them for the embarrassingly ineffective power play. That is why I have repeatedly called for Rocky to either be replaced or the coaching staff augmented with a dedicated powerplay coach. - jd250
while Risto has played better, missing the end of the season for the 2nd straight season impacts his value.
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WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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How about York and Zamula? What about Frost and Farabee. The goalies? Many more have regressed/no improvement than improvement. Even the improvement isn’t anything eye grabbing. - Striiker
Don't care about York or Zamula. I think they should be gone after this season.
The goalies are just not NHL caliber starters. What can a coach do about that, they are just the best at what the Flyers have currently.
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WhiskeyMan
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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Brandon Carlo from the Bruins was traded to the Leafs for a higher prospect Minten and a 2026 1st round pick, so arguably the Leafs gave up more to Boston than to Philly. Carlo has 1 assist in 8 games so far. - jd250
Toronto needed improved D than they did a forward. That assist brought him up to 10 points for the season. So big whoop.
Laughton was in to be the 3rd or 4th line center.
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psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 03.25.2011
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while Risto has played better, missing the end of the season for the 2nd straight season impacts his value. - wcorvette
They should just keep him now. Likely won’t get anything of value for him until the deadline of the 2026-2027 season, the last of his contract. |
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Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 10.09.2020
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They should just keep him now. Likely won’t get anything of value for him until the deadline of the 2026-2027 season, the last of his contract. - psuhockey
There is no harm in keeping him as there is no one in the system ready to take his spot. Now if there is a solid offer you take it.
However as we have seen you really need to pull their arm for the Flyers to let go of these culture and mythical status players in their eyes. More concerning is watching Seeler play. |
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psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 03.25.2011
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There is no harm in keeping him as there is no one in the system ready to take his spot. Now if there is a solid offer you take it.
However as we have seen you really need to pull their arm for the Flyers to let go of these culture and mythical status players in their eyes. More concerning is watching Seeler play. - Striiker
He’s probably hurt too but must keep that grit in the lineup. Only the Flyers would continually put injured players in the lineup with the season over. |
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Striiker
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He’s probably hurt too but must keep that grit in the lineup. Only the Flyers would continually put injured players in the lineup with the season over. - psuhockey
Seeler has looked bad from day 1. Though Blocking shots every game doesn't help. Not a smart strategy.
Not getting on you but gets old when players aren't playing well to use well he must he hurt excuse.
Yes in bold. |
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psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 03.25.2011
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Seeler has looked bad from day 1. Though Blocking shots every game doesn't help. Not a smart strategy.
Not getting on you but gets old when players aren't playing well to use well he must he hurt excuse.
Yes in bold. - Striiker
I understand about the hurt excuse but in Seelers case he probably is with the constant blocking of shots. I think he’s been fine this year but I also don’t expect a lot from a 6th defenseman. Zamula has been way worse. The Flyers need a longer term partner for Drysdale and Hunter McDonald shouldn’t be it. |
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PrinceLH
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Location: Belleville, ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Brandon Carlo from the Bruins was traded to the Leafs for a higher prospect Minten and a 2026 1st round pick, so arguably the Leafs gave up more to Boston than to Philly. Carlo has 1 assist in 8 games so far. - jd250 Carlo is a legitimate top 4 right handed defenseman in the prime of his career. He also has term, so hence, the cost. I have no issues with it.
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Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.12.2020
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https://x.com/HendrixHock...KzI-53fstJp4sQVdEijQ&s=19
Flyers in pursuit of a college free agent apparently. Expectations should be low whether Dorwart will contribute in the NHL. Smart move by Dorwart considering the depth chart at center is so bad, he'll probably get a real look at training camp. Rumor was Briere was willing to move Poehling at the deadline to NJ, who in turn traded for Glass. |
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meduser
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Location: BC Joined: 06.23.2012
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Flyers have enough 1st round pick to make an offer sheet to Bedard - WhiskeyMan
The draft picks on offer sheets need to be the teams own. So if the Flyers offered Bedard enough for it costing 4 firsts as compensation, all 4 firsts would have to be the Flyers(26, 27, 28, 29). That is why St Louis traded to get their second rounder back, so that they could offer sheet the Oilers players. |
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So who do you count as "generational"? - Tomahawk
in the modern era, i'm guessing the "Generational Talents" coming out of the draft that actually were would be:
Gretzky
Limieux
Lindros
Crosby
McDavid
not saying those aren't the only great (or even the GREATEST) players in that last 50 years...but when someone says "Generational Talent" in a draft class, that's the measuring stick I would say?
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jd250
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Go Flyers. On their way to cup contention any day now. Do you even read what you post?
Giving the head coach credit for MM takes the cake.
Flyers goalie coaches get a free pass for the goalie play? - Striiker
Kolosov needs time in the AHL. He didn't want to do that, but now he is because he has no other option. That is not the coaches fault. Fedetov is, well, not good, and maybe he can improve, but this is his rookie NHL season and goalies take time. Again not the coaches fault. Ersson was thrusted into the starting goalie position when Hart was charged and he clearly was not ready. Again, how is that the coaches fault? The Flyers as a team have played well defensively, shutting down a lot of really good teams in terms of scoring chances. If Hart was still on the team, they would have been a playoff team last season and again this season, there is no doubt. |
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