while Risto has played better, missing the end of the season for the 2nd straight season impacts his value.
- wcorvette

It does .. and I didn't even see how he got hurt. Based on the week to week status, it must be a separated shoulder or something close to it.

Carlo is a legitimate top 4 right handed defenseman in the prime of his career. He also has term, so hence, the cost. I have no issues with it.
- PrinceLH

I don't have a problem either with it. Just pointing out he has not exactly lit it up for Toronto either. I would have taken this return for Risto.

Kolosov needs time in the AHL. He didn't want to do that, but now he is because he has no other option. That is not the coaches fault. Fedetov is, well, not good, and maybe he can improve, but this is his rookie NHL season and goalies take time. Again not the coaches fault. Ersson was thrusted into the starting goalie position when Hart was charged and he clearly was not ready. Again, how is that the coaches fault? The Flyers as a team have played well defensively, shutting down a lot of really good teams in terms of scoring chances. If Hart was still on the team, they would have been a playoff team last season and again this season, there is no doubt.
- jd250

I'm not seeing any reason for your optimism about Fedotov or Errson (or Kolosov TBH). Fedotov is legit like 30 years old....yeah he's a rookie but he's past even the "well goalies take a bit" timeline. I think the contract they signed him to was bad at the time...even though I do think non hockey reasons crept into the process...but now they know: He's NOT an NHL goalie

Ersson is an NHL goalie...but a backup to someone making A LOT of starts as a true number 1. We've now seen in multiple seasons he has broken down either physically or on the ice after an extended duration of play.

Kolosov is legit just insane and, well, yeah, I'd go ahead and just let him go back to Belarus.

To your last comment about Carter Hart: MAYBE last year they sneak in the playoffs maybe?....but this team is SO BAD. The lack of talented scorers and the PP are equally to blame for the team being so bad as the goaltending.

I don't have a problem either with it. Just pointing out he has not exactly lit it up for Toronto either. I would have taken this return for Risto.
- jd250

Carlo is a defensive d-man who has been everything Toronto was hoping to get in the trade.

I'm not seeing any reason for your optimism about Fedotov or Errson (or Kolosov TBH). Fedotov is legit like 30 years old....yeah he's a rookie but he's past even the "well goalies take a bit" timeline. I think the contract they signed him to was bad at the time...even though I do think non hockey reasons crept into the process...but now they know: He's NOT an NHL goalie

Ersson is an NHL goalie...but a backup to someone making A LOT of starts as a true number 1. We've now seen in multiple seasons he has broken down either physically or on the ice after an extended duration of play.

Kolosov is legit just insane and, well, yeah, I'd go ahead and just let him go back to Belarus.

To your last comment about Carter Hart: MAYBE last year they sneak in the playoffs maybe?....but this team is SO BAD. The lack of talented scorers and the PP are equally to blame for the team being so bad as the goaltending.
- Wingdestroyer

Ersson has good fundamentals, he's a good goaltender and he's only 25 years old playing behind and poor team that gives up the 16th most shots against. A lot of them are high danger area too.

Kolosov is only 23 years old, yeah he's a bit of a nutbar but you stick with him and see what he becomes, he has very little North American pro experience. Didn't they give up on Bobrovsky when he was 23?

https://x.com/AntSanPhill...OXO-c95YzBkk9e5VWVog&s=19

Luchanko and Ciernik heading to rhe Phantoms apparently. I applaud Briere for letting the Flyers dumpster fire continue uninhibited

Ersson has good fundamentals, he's a good goaltender and he's only 25 years old playing behind and poor team that gives up the 16th most shots against. A lot of them are high danger area too.

Kolosov is only 23 years old, yeah he's a bit of a nutbar but you stick with him and see what he becomes, he has very little North American pro experience. Didn't they give up on Bobrovsky when he was 23?
- Dave21Brown

im not criticizing anyone for doing so...but a lot of people have an issue giving up on goalies b/c of the Bobrovsky situation. But, don't forget, Bob was actually really GOOD...he just biffed in the playoffs and Snider pulled and Al Davis and went for another crazy Russian in goal. They got rid of him because they thought Bryzgalov was the missing piece, not because he wasn't all that great.

The Flyers have NOTHING in goal right now. Everyone is talking about this new Russian kid Zavgrin (sp?) but i'm interested to see what this Bjarnson (also sp?) does in the AHL next year. Either way, the goalie issue is going to depend on the moves Briere makes this summer. If the Flyers are in run back mode.....they might not do poop and gun for a top pick in 2026. If they make a move for a top player, either top of the lineup center or defenseman, they might get a COMPETENT goalie for a starter and just push Fedotov out of the picture with a threat of ECHL assignment.

Great take. You prove every day why your just a terrible poster.
- Striiker

So wait, teams in a playoff hunt make trades just to wait 20 plus games for the new guys to acclimate?

https://x.com/AntSanPhilly/status/1904287769918320717?t=okOXO-c95YzBkk9e5VWVog&s=19

Luchanko and Ciernik heading to rhe Phantoms apparently. I applaud Briere for letting the Flyers dumpster fire continue uninhibited
- Trox88

Man...I hope the Phantoms make the playoffs. I actually have been meaning to go to a game for years, and a playoff game would be fun. Anyone go frequently? How close is the arena from Yocco's?

https://x.com/AntSanPhilly/status/1904287769918320717?t=okOXO-c95YzBkk9e5VWVog&s=19

Luchanko and Ciernik heading to rhe Phantoms apparently. I applaud Briere for letting the Flyers dumpster fire continue uninhibited
- Trox88

Are the phantoms a playoff team?

Man...I hope the Phantoms make the playoffs. I actually have been meaning to go to a game for years, and a playoff game would be fun. Anyone go frequently? How close is the arena from Yocco's?
- Wingdestroyer

I would assume Bump will get there after his college season ends.

Are the phantoms a playoff team?
- WhiskeyMan

Yes, reading the qualifications for the Calder Cup 6 teams from the Atlantic make the playoffs (crazy because there are only 8 teams). Phantoms are 8 points ahead of Hartford who is in 7th place with same number of games played. Phantoms are in 5th. It would take a pretty major collapse for them not to make the playoffs.

Yes, reading the qualifications for the Calder Cup 6 teams from the Atlantic make the playoffs (crazy because there are only 8 teams). Phantoms are 8 points ahead of Hartford who is in 7th place with same number of games played. Phantoms are in 5th. It would take a pretty major collapse for them not to make the playoffs.
- Trox88

And apparently they just got a PP specialist in Nikita Grebenkin

And apparently they just got a PP specialist in Nikita Grebenkin
- Wingdestroyer

From what I read, Grebenkin had very little PP time with the Marlies. I very much liked Grebenkin over Minten as a prospect. I would imagine John Snowden runs the PP down in LV. Grenbenkin alone has 2 PP goals this month as compared to the Flyers and Rocky. Well, we know the results.

Yes, reading the qualifications for the Calder Cup 6 teams from the Atlantic make the playoffs (crazy because there are only 8 teams). Phantoms are 8 points ahead of Hartford who is in 7th place with same number of games played. Phantoms are in 5th. It would take a pretty major collapse for them not to make the playoffs.
- Trox88

Nice and thanks

How about York and Zamula? What about Frost and Farabee. The goalies? Many more have regressed/no improvement than improvement. Even the improvement isn’t anything eye grabbing.
- Striiker

Frost didnt regress. He eas on pace for another 40 point season. We traded him because he wasn't improving.

York has taken a step back but it happens. Development is not linear

Zamula is exactly what people expected a 6th/7th D

Farabee was disappointing but asode from the outlier last season he hasn't shown much

You also ignore other players who have been successful or improved such as TK, Sanheim, Drysdale, Risto. Seeler wasnt even an nhl roster player until he came here

Some players just don't work out and sometimes a coaches methods don't work for players. Every player is different and all coaches have their way and little flexibility

I don't have a problem either with it. Just pointing out he has not exactly lit it up for Toronto either. I would have taken this return for Risto.
- jd250

NO team was giving up that return for Risto, even with money retained.

I'm not seeing any reason for your optimism about Fedotov or Errson (or Kolosov TBH). Fedotov is legit like 30 years old....yeah he's a rookie but he's past even the "well goalies take a bit" timeline. I think the contract they signed him to was bad at the time...even though I do think non hockey reasons crept into the process...but now they know: He's NOT an NHL goalie

Ersson is an NHL goalie...but a backup to someone making A LOT of starts as a true number 1. We've now seen in multiple seasons he has broken down either physically or on the ice after an extended duration of play.

Kolosov is legit just insane and, well, yeah, I'd go ahead and just let him go back to Belarus.

To your last comment about Carter Hart: MAYBE last year they sneak in the playoffs maybe?....but this team is SO BAD. The lack of talented scorers and the PP are equally to blame for the team being so bad as the goaltending.
- Wingdestroyer

To your last point, do not underestimate the negativity bad goaltending can bring to a team. It's really deflating as a player when you are doing your job and limiting chances and then your goalie can't make a routine save.

And I'm sorry, but where did I demonstrate any optimism towards the current goalie crop? All I said was I don't blame the coaching for the poor goalie play. Kolosov and Fedotov clearly need time to develop in the AHL, but there is no guarantee either will be a good and consistent NHL goalie. And with Ersson, he was thrown into the starting job and clearly was not ready to do it full time. He looks like at best he can be a capable NHL backup, playing 35 or so games a year. Bjarnason and Zavragin are years away and again, no guarantee either will be a good NHL goalies. All the Flyers can do at this point is keep drafting goalies and hope one of them sticks, and in the meantime sign a veteran that can fill in until one of their prospects is ready for a shot.

NO team was giving up that return for Risto, even with money retained.
- meduser

I think your wrong. In fact, I think the Leafs and Flyers were working on a bigger deal that involved both Risto and Laughton, but the Flyers didn't want to trade Risto. I would have made the deal if I were Briere, and got back 2 1st round picks plus Minten and Grebenkin. But clearly Torts didn't want Risto traded, and ironically Risto is out for the rest of the year anyway. Thus the Leafs turned the Bruins for Carlo.

I would assume Bump will get there after his college season ends.
- Trox88

Yes Bump might get a game or two with the Flyers before playing at LHV for a playoff run. But we have to temper our expectations of what Bump is. He is going to be at best a bottom 6 NHL forward.

Seeler has looked bad from day 1. Though Blocking shots every game doesn't help. Not a smart strategy.

Not getting on you but gets old when players aren't playing well to use well he must he hurt excuse.

Yes in bold.
- Striiker

Striiker was banned for the post above. I've heard from a few other people recently that were banned for similar harmless posts. It's got to be some kind of glitch, right?

Any moves this summer should not involve their own 1st round pick. If they are unable to be a serious contender next season (unlikely because goaltending is such a question mark), the team needs that lottery ticket to get into the McKenna sweepstakes. It does not matter if the odds will not be great to get 1st overall, better to at least have a small shot at it, then being relegated to purgatory.

I give credit for Briere loading up the Phantoms roster at the end of the season and letting the Flyers roster status quo.

Wow, Chychryn re signs with Caps 8 years @ 9 million. Welcome to the new salaries with the cap rising. Good for Chychryn cashing in, but I see this as a glimpse of how salaries will get readjusted for all players. For example, a Cates multi year extension will not be as cheap as everyone thought.