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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Thursday @ 9:36 PM ET
Bouche and Jackson

They’re running out time with TO, Ricky Thompson will design something, lol, would be the first time this year it actually worked for Thompson
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Thursday @ 9:39 PM ET
4th overall!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Thursday @ 9:40 PM ET
4th overall!
- 2Real



Round about way, but what was needed from the first puck drop of the season.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Thursday @ 9:40 PM ET
This franchise can’t help but try to step on rakes.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Thursday @ 9:42 PM ET
Shaw can leave with Rocky. For that matter, throw in Lappy and Dilly, completely clean house. Now let's get some lottery luc,k.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Thursday @ 9:42 PM ET
I guess an overall decent outcome…MM with a two goal game, Forester gets his 25th and they still land on 4th Overall.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Thursday @ 9:44 PM ET
Shaw can leave with Rocky. For that matter, throw in Lappy and Dilly, completely clean house. Now let's get some lottery luc,k.
- Trox88


100%…clean house. Michkov missing with 2 seconds left….probably gets him a good young talented C to play with. Best miss of his career yet.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Thursday @ 9:45 PM ET
We all know likely SEA or BUF will win the lottery, but the Flyers had to get the job done and secure 4th.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Thursday @ 9:51 PM ET
100%…clean house. Michkov missing with 2 seconds left….probably gets him a good young talented C to play with. Best miss of his career yet.
- landros 2


I'm okay if Ferschweiler is the next HC. Very good chance he brings in his own coaching staff and leaves no holdovers. Briere and/or Jones will already have some relationship with the next HC. Ferschweiler has no connection to the Flyers, other then playing a year with Jones in college. I would applaud an out of the box hire like him.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Thursday @ 9:55 PM ET
Shaw can leave with Rocky. For that matter, throw in Lappy and Dilly, completely clean house. Now let's get some lottery luc,k.
- Trox88

keep em all bring on McKenna
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Thursday @ 9:55 PM ET
I'm okay if Ferschweiler is the next HC. Very good chance he brings in his own coaching staff and leaves no holdovers. Briere and/or Jones will already have some relationship with the next HC. Ferschweiler has no connection to the Flyers, other then playing a year with Jones in college. I would applaud an out of the box hire like him.
- Trox88


They just need new voices….and they need to have a big off season and a very , very big draft. They have some good young players….and they have a kid that is an elite talent….they have to add this summer…but not another Hayes type signing….go young and talented….you have some solid vets….time to build up..
I don’t know enough about Ferschweller…but that’s the type of guy they should look to.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Thursday @ 9:56 PM ET
We all know likely SEA or BUF will win the lottery, but the Flyers had to get the job done and secure 4th.
- Trox88

Flyers did the best they could rest is up to luck
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Thursday @ 10:26 PM ET
4th pick really opens up what DB can do with the other picks, use them, get another pick in the lower teens, add a roster player if you have to, one that makes you worse next season, all in tank in 2026, the following season have McKenna, 3 years of MM, and other firsts from 2024, 25 a couple years older
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Thursday @ 10:56 PM ET
Good night for the Flyguys!! The only two untouchables (Foerster and Michkov) on their roster had good nights and they still came away with the 4th overall pick! Kudos!
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 12:56 AM ET
4th pick really opens up what DB can do with the other picks, use them, get another pick in the lower teens, add a roster player if you have to, one that makes you worse next season, all in tank in 2026, the following season have McKenna, 3 years of MM, and other firsts from 2024, 25 a couple years older
- wcorvette


Assuming we dont move back. Luck hasnt been on the flyers side. Even when we moved up that 1 time, we ended up with nothing
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Yesterday @ 3:16 AM ET
Draft order chances -

1) 9.5%
2) 9.5%
3) 0.3%
4) 15.4%
5) 44.6%
6) 20.8%

We’ve gotta temper our expectations of a top 4 pick.

The most important part of finishing with the 4th worst record is that you can’t do worse that 6th. We really didn’t wanna be scratching our heads at 8 hoping someone will fall or wondering if taking a shot at McQueen is the right move. Nice talent from what I’ve dug up, but 2 back injuries already.

We got a 19% chance at Schaefer or Misa. Hell, that means we have a better chance at one of them than whomever we’re thinking at 4. But we have to accept that there’s a 65.4% chance we draft 5 or 6.

The worst case scenario is ending up with someone like Frondell, O’Brien, or Desnoyers. Fine by me.

Or god forbid they Flyer it up and go off board for a traditional and antiquated Philly type.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Yesterday @ 3:51 AM ET
Honestly, nobody is lock step with their picks after Schaefer and Misa being the top 2 in no particular order. Schaefer probably goes 1 unless Chicago wins the lottery. They have a full cupboard of young defensemen, so Misa fits their needs.

This draft class could go in almost any direction after those two are off the board.

There could very well likely be some sliders and risers.
Dave21Brown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 12.09.2018

Yesterday @ 6:32 AM ET
4th overall...so you're tellin me there's a chance.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Yesterday @ 6:43 AM ET
Draft order chances -

1) 9.5%
2) 9.5%
3) 0.3%
4) 15.4%
5) 44.6%
6) 20.8%

We’ve gotta temper our expectations of a top 4 pick.

The most important part of finishing with the 4th worst record is that you can’t do worse that 6th. We really didn’t wanna be scratching our heads at 8 hoping someone will fall or wondering if taking a shot at McQueen is the right move. Nice talent from what I’ve dug up, but 2 back injuries already.

We got a 19% chance at Schaefer or Misa. Hell, that means we have a better chance at one of them than whomever we’re thinking at 4. But we have to accept that there’s a 65.4% chance we draft 5 or 6.

The worst case scenario is ending up with someone like Frondell, O’Brien, or Desnoyers. Fine by me.

Or god forbid they Flyer it up and go off board for a traditional and antiquated Philly type.

- Hesh_
Why would they have a much higher chance of finishing 5th than 4th. That's makes no logical sense at all! Where did you get that info? I'm thinking 44% to get the 4th pick and 20% for the 5th pick, and the 15% for the 6th pick. Again, simple logic here.
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Yesterday @ 8:11 AM ET
Why would they have a much higher chance of finishing 5th than 4th. That's makes no logical sense at all! Where did you get that info? I'm thinking 44% to get the 4th pick and 20% for the 5th pick, and the 15% for the 6th pick. Again, simple logic here.
- Phillywhiteout


Welcome to the NHL
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Yesterday @ 8:46 AM ET
Why would they have a much higher chance of finishing 5th than 4th. That's makes no logical sense at all! Where did you get that info? I'm thinking 44% to get the 4th pick and 20% for the 5th pick, and the 15% for the 6th pick. Again, simple logic here.
- Phillywhiteout

Tankathon, my friend.

The odds are all calculated for you

It’s not finishing 5th. It’s picking 5th. I put out the odds for you to see
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Yesterday @ 8:48 AM ET
Why would they have a much higher chance of finishing 5th than 4th. That's makes no logical sense at all! Where did you get that info? I'm thinking 44% to get the 4th pick and 20% for the 5th pick, and the 15% for the 6th pick. Again, simple logic here.
- Phillywhiteout


A bit strange that you have way higher odds of moving back than moving up one spot. You even have better chances moving up to first overall. I’m not sure what the rationale is.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Yesterday @ 8:51 AM ET
Why would they have a much higher chance of finishing 5th than 4th. That's makes no logical sense at all! Where did you get that info? I'm thinking 44% to get the 4th pick and 20% for the 5th pick, and the 15% for the 6th pick. Again, simple logic here.
- Phillywhiteout

You’re right that it sounds crazy, but when 16 teams get tickets to ascend 10 spots, the percentages of not staying with your slot are gonna drop. If they shortened it to less teams, that would help, but they don’t wanna do that.

They try to amend this by not being able to ascend twice in three years or something.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Yesterday @ 8:52 AM ET
If anyone knows how they have a 0.3% chance at 3rd, I’d be curious to know what’s required.

For science
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Yesterday @ 8:55 AM ET
Oh, wait. Here’s the rule -

A team cannot win the NHL Draft lottery more than twice in a five-year span. The rule, implemented starting with the 2022 lottery, aims to prevent teams from repeatedly improving their draft position through lottery wins. If a team wins the lottery twice within that five-year window, they become ineligible to win the lottery for the following three years.
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