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Chunga’s Revenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The present day composer refuses to die - Edgar Varese
Joined: 10.28.2020

May 22 @ 10:35 AM ET
Pass.

Look at a Dallas, a lot of skill, grit, shooting, playmaking distributed through the lineup. They play a different style than FLA, but another well-balanced team doingd good things, looking like a contender.

I'm on the fence about JT, like if he signed a discount deal as our 3rd line center, I could see that working out for a few years.

Let's see what Cowan can do as a our Mini-Mitch on the 3rd line with him.

Domi up with Matthews would be a short-term look and while he's not as talented as Marner, he's not afraid of contact either, and can still dish the puck the Matthews, and doesn't need the puck on his stick to be effective like Marner does.

- gravyface


Knies-AM-Nylander
JT-Bennett-Marchand
Guys
Other guys

Or

Knies-AM-Nylander
JT-Bennett-Guy
McMann-Domi-Marchand
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

May 22 @ 10:39 AM ET
Bennett isn't signing here, guys.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 10:41 AM ET
what about Rielly for Bowen Byram

of course MR would never accept..cuz..Leafs

- senstroll

Ya no.
Why would Buffalo do that and why would mr want to go to buffalo?

It would be great though.
The Judge
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 08.30.2021

May 22 @ 10:47 AM ET
i stopped listening to Dreger, most of his info is nonsense. or he doesnt actually say anything of substance.

I guess its possible one side wants to leak some info..but its Dreger so prob made up

- senstroll



The Athletic reported the same thing.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 10:48 AM ET
Pass.

Look at a Dallas, a lot of skill, grit, shooting, playmaking distributed through the lineup. They play a different style than FLA, but another well-balanced team doing good things, looking like a contender.

I'm on the fence about JT, like if he signed a discount deal as our 3rd line center, I could see that working out for a few years.

Let's see what Cowan can do as a our Mini-Mitch on the 3rd line with him.

Domi up with Matthews would be a short-term look and while he's not as talented as Marner, he's not afraid of contact either, and can still dish the puck the Matthews, and doesn't need the puck on his stick to be effective like Marner does.

- gravyface

Honestly, domi isnt a solution for anything.
Cowen is not a top line player.....yet or maybe ever. We'll see.
Im fine with short term deals to ehlers or duchene....or even patty kane.
I dont see matthews leading this team to a cup anytime soon so we just need to not have our first round pick be high for another team. Just make the playoffs the next 3 years.

Also i feel like a lot of FAs are gonna get overpaid thanks to the cap rise
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 22 @ 10:50 AM ET
Bennett isn't signing here, guys.
- mjones242


save the money for Mcdavid anyway
Chunga’s Revenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The present day composer refuses to die - Edgar Varese
Joined: 10.28.2020

May 22 @ 10:51 AM ET
Bennett isn't signing here, guys.
- mjones242

Nice to hear from his agent
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 10:53 AM ET
Knies-AM-Nylander
JT-Bennett-Marchand
Guys
Other guys

Or

Knies-AM-Nylander
JT-Bennett-Guy
McMann-Domi-Marchand

- Chunga’s Revenge

Bennett will not be the same player in Toronto...he'll be in the box most of the time and less effective.
MArchand isnt coming here......and he's 37/38.
Not a great FA class.
The problem with the leafs is expressed above in your line up - bottom 6 are just guys....thats not how you win championships.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 22 @ 10:55 AM ET
Honestly, domi isnt a solution for anything.
Cowen is not a top line player.....yet or maybe ever. We'll see.
Im fine with short term deals to ehlers or duchene....or even patty kane.
I dont see matthews leading this team to a cup anytime soon so we just need to not have our first round pick be high for another team. Just make the playoffs the next 3 years.

Also i feel like a lot of FAs are gonna get overpaid thanks to the cap rise

- Fakepartofme


Never said that. Idea was he starts on the 3rd line with JT.

FYI, you have a track record of basically poopting all over every discussion without ever offering any kind of opinion of what the Leafs should do, so it's difficult (and frankly annoying) having a conversation with you.

Something to work on this off-season. You got this.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
Bennett will not be the same player in Toronto...he'll be in the box most of the time and less effective.
MArchand isnt coming here......and he's 37/38.
Not a great FA class.
The problem with the leafs is expressed above in your line up - bottom 6 are just guys....thats not how you win championships.

- Fakepartofme


Here you go again: poopting all over everyone's suggestions, offering nothing in exchange.

Grating. Find a different way of expressing yourself, you'll be glad you did it, I promise.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 22 @ 10:57 AM ET
Nice to hear from his agent
- Chunga’s Revenge

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 22 @ 10:58 AM ET
Knies-AM-Nylander
JT-Bennett-Marchand
Guys
Other guys

Or

Knies-AM-Nylander
JT-Bennett-Guy
McMann-Domi-Marchand

- Chunga’s Revenge


Would love to sign Bennett and Marchand. Changes the dynamic of this group overnight. No more passengers, more sandpaper than can hockey and score the greasy goals we need.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 22 @ 11:05 AM ET
Pass.

Look at a Dallas, a lot of skill, grit, shooting, playmaking distributed through the lineup. They play a different style than FLA, but another well-balanced team doing good things, looking like a contender.

I'm on the fence about JT, like if he signed a discount deal as our 3rd line center, I could see that working out for a few years.

Let's see what Cowan can do as a our Mini-Mitch on the 3rd line with him.

Domi up with Matthews would be a short-term look and while he's not as talented as Marner, he's not afraid of contact either, and can still dish the puck the Matthews, and doesn't need the puck on his stick to be effective like Marner does.

- gravyface

Agree on 34 with Domi and 23
Cowan with JT as well 👍
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 11:08 AM ET
Never said that. Idea was he starts on the 3rd line with JT.

FYI, you have a track record of basically poopting all over every discussion without ever offering any kind of opinion of what the Leafs should do, so it's difficult (and frankly annoying) having a conversation with you.

Something to work on this off-season. You got this.

- gravyface

Sorry I have a track record of bringing up reality. My bad.
Every off season, leafs fans cling onto some FA as the saviour....rarely works out. This is year, its a 50pt center everyone is willing to pay $8m for...or some (frank)ing old 38 year old. Ya we've been there done that.
I've offered up ideas/opinions...that are just as open to be pooped on.

Again, unless the leafs are willing to overpay, why would bennett leave Florida to sign with the leafs....a team he keeps beating? I just dont see it. Unless florida forces him out.
Chunga’s Revenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The present day composer refuses to die - Edgar Varese
Joined: 10.28.2020

May 22 @ 11:10 AM ET
Bennett will not be the same player in Toronto...he'll be in the box most of the time and less effective.
MArchand isnt coming here......and he's 37/38.
Not a great FA class.
The problem with the leafs is expressed above in your line up - bottom 6 are just guys....thats not how you win championships.

- Fakepartofme

So we need tough, in your face players who can score but we shouldn’t sign them because they’ll be penalized?

I have no idea who’s ready to come here. I know Leafs have $ to spend. Marchand hasn’t looked gassed so far and I wasn’t proposing a 7 year deal.

I have no problem with making upgrades to the bottom 6.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 11:13 AM ET
Here you go again: poopting all over everyone's suggestions, offering nothing in exchange.

Grating. Find a different way of expressing yourself, you'll be glad you did it, I promise.

- gravyface

Oh piss off, quit your whining.
Sorry, Im not interested in signing another 38 year old to be the saviour. LOL
Get with reality. The leafs are in a poopty position, they either lose a 100pt soft player and keep two others and then overpay a 38 year old and a 50pt player ....because every year we know all free agents want to be leafs or overpay to sign marner and not strengthening the bottom 6 and we are stuck with 3 soft overpaid forwards....who disappear when it counts.
And we dont have any 1st for the next 3 years.
Just facts.

Ive said many times....avoid long term deals, move out morgan if you can, sign an interim top 6 winger....build out the bottom 6 with depth scoring. What more of a suggestion do you want?
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
Shanahans massive failure was allowing Marner to get to the NT portion of his contract. Absolutely anyone with a functioning brain could see by then that the experiment was not going to work. He gambled with the future of the organization and lost. Now he moves on, and the Leafs pay the price for years.
Chunga’s Revenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The present day composer refuses to die - Edgar Varese
Joined: 10.28.2020

May 22 @ 11:17 AM ET
Sorry I have a track record of bringing up reality. My bad.
Every off season, leafs fans cling onto some FA as the saviour....rarely works out. This is year, its a 50pt center everyone is willing to pay $8m for...or some (frank)ing old 38 year old. Ya we've been there done that.
I've offered up ideas/opinions...that are just as open to be pooped on.

Again, unless the leafs are willing to overpay, why would bennett leave Florida to sign with the leafs....a team he keeps beating? I just dont see it. Unless florida forces him out.

- Fakepartofme

Who’s talking about saviours? Leafs are going to sign some guys. If you’d rather go after Ehlers, cool.

Panthers are $10M over the cap this year and have to resign Bennett and Ekblad and Verhaeghe is getting a $3M raise. Maybe they have room to keep Bennett or maybe he takes a discount to stay. Neither of us know.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 11:25 AM ET
So we need tough, in your face players who can score but we shouldn’t sign them because they’ll be penalized?

I have no idea who’s ready to come here. I know Leafs have $ to spend. Marchand hasn’t looked gassed so far and I wasn’t proposing a 7 year deal.

I have no problem with making upgrades to the bottom 6.

- Chunga’s Revenge

Not for the price it will costs....and thats even if they would come here. I just think Marchand and Bennett are pipedreams....well marchand isnt much of a dream at all. He's 37.....hes now best suited for the 3rd line...but here he'd be played on 2nd or top line....and probably less effective.
Bennett is great in florida, cause hes not played out of position and is allowed to get away with so much. That would never happen in Toronto.
I like bennett, but he's gonna be so overpaid.
Sign some short term deals, build out a better bottom 6, get 1 top 6 interim winger (P Kane or someone), move out Morgan if you can, sign no one to a NMC/NMT..unless its Knies. See how this team plays without Marner for year. Spend the big bucks next season (no Im not referring to McD - I think he extends with Edm)...I believe the FA class is better.
Dont tie yourself to more long term deals that will turn bad once the players get a bit older. Bennett may not age well. IMO.
Although I will say this, I was wrong about Bennett before...I wasnt interested in him when Calgary moved him...but in hindsight maybe it would have been good to get him ( I believe Santos was all for that). Now would he have turned out to be the same player here in Toronto? Dunno.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 11:26 AM ET
Shanahans massive failure was allowing Marner to get to the NT portion of his contract. Absolutely anyone with a functioning brain could see by then that the experiment was not going to work. He gambled with the future of the organization and lost. Now he moves on, and the Leafs pay the price for years.
- Bullot

Tre was signed a week before his NT kicked in I believe.....it would have taken huge lady balls to do that.
But I agree the time to move him was before that.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 11:30 AM ET
Who’s talking about saviours? Leafs are going to sign some guys. If you’d rather go after Ehlers, cool.

Panthers are $10M over the cap this year and have to resign Bennett and Ekblad and Verhaeghe is getting a $3M raise. Maybe they have room to keep Bennett or maybe he takes a discount to stay. Neither of us know.

- Chunga’s Revenge

He very well could leave. But again, why sign in Toronto unless he is getting really overpaid and then why would we want to overpay him?
And you know he will get overpaid in Toronto.

Anywho, we'll see. Still over a month away....leafs could very well blow their load on these players. Time will tell.
We know most July 1st signing dont end well.
I would prefer all short term deals for any FA.
Chunga’s Revenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The present day composer refuses to die - Edgar Varese
Joined: 10.28.2020

May 22 @ 11:35 AM ET
Not for the price it will costs....and thats even if they would come here. I just think Marchand and Bennett are pipedreams....well marchand isnt much of a dream at all. He's 37.....hes now best suited for the 3rd line...but here he'd be played on 2nd or top line....and probably less effective.
Bennett is great in florida, cause hes not played out of position and is allowed to get away with so much. That would never happen in Toronto.
I like bennett, but he's gonna be so overpaid.
Sign some short term deals, build out a better bottom 6, get 1 top 6 interim winger (P Kane or someone), move out Morgan if you can, sign no one to a NMC/NMT..unless its Knies. See how this team plays without Marner for year. Spend the big bucks next season (no Im not referring to McD - I think he extends with Edm)...I believe the FA class is better.
Dont tie yourself to more long term deals that will turn bad once the players get a bit older. Bennett may not age well. IMO.
Although I will say this, I was wrong about Bennett before...I wasnt interested in him when Calgary moved him...but in hindsight maybe it would have been good to get him ( I believe Santos was all for that). Now would he have turned out to be the same player here in Toronto? Dunno.

- Fakepartofme


I agree that next year’s crop is better - but who knows how many actually come to market. Depending on what they do with JT, Leafs have $20-24M in cap coming off the books. I was the same as you on Bennett last time but if there’s exactly the type of 2C available, I think he’s worth taking a look at.
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
New Writer Audition Up in My Blog Space.
Let me know what you think?
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 22 @ 11:45 AM ET
Oh piss off, quit your whining.
Sorry, Im not interested in signing another 38 year old to be the saviour. LOL
Get with reality. The leafs are in a poopty position, they either lose a 100pt soft player and keep two others and then overpay a 38 year old and a 50pt player ....because every year we know all free agents want to be leafs or overpay to sign marner and not strengthening the bottom 6 and we are stuck with 3 soft overpaid forwards....who disappear when it counts.
And we dont have any 1st for the next 3 years.
Just facts.

Ive said many times....avoid long term deals, move out morgan if you can, sign an interim top 6 winger....build out the bottom 6 with depth scoring. What more of a suggestion do you want?

- Fakepartofme


its how you respond to people, you did it to me also. I just dont reply.
basically all you say is everyones suggestion is stupid and why bother posting it.

its a hockey talk website. who (frank)ing cares. not every post has to be dead realistic. people can have some fun.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 11:49 AM ET
I agree that next year’s crop is better - but who knows how many actually come to market. Depending on what they do with JT, Leafs have $20-24M in cap coming off the books. I was the same as you on Bennett last time but if there’s exactly the type of 2C available, I think he’s worth taking a look at.
- Chunga’s Revenge

Yes thats a factor as well....you dont know who will make it to market...heck we dont even know this year yet.
Bennett is definitely worth a look....and for the right price Im all in. I just honestly feel like what makes him so effective now he wont get away with in the blue and white.

But a Matthews, Bennett, JT down the middle could be great....or even a Bennett/JT line combo. For the right price.

We'll see.
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