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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Wednesday @ 8:52 AM ET
Sure, but Im not sure he leaves Edmonton. Opportunity to play with Drai for the next 8 years could be very tempting
- Fakepartofme


Sam Bennett is on Edmonton?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Wednesday @ 8:53 AM ET
There's a reason you don't know Owen Beck. He's a horrible players on Montreal, kinda the opposite of McDavid.

So again, who will take his place on the roster, because my answer will change based on it. If the answer is no one, and they're only going to dress 19 players every game next year, that would also change my answer.

- jmatchett383

I cant predict the future. So not exactly sure who replaces him.....but Ive been told it will be easy.
Maybe Kane on a short term deal, giving Cowen time to maybe crack the 2nd line.
We'll see in 28 days I guess.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Wednesday @ 8:57 AM ET
I cant predict the future. So not exactly sure who replaces him.....but Ive been told it will be easy.
Maybe Kane on a short term deal, giving Cowen time to maybe crack the 2nd line.
We'll see in 28 days I guess.

- Fakepartofme


I don't think replacing a 1st line winger falls into the "easy" bin. But just stating that, unless you can say who will fill his spot, you can't make an educated guess as to how it will affect the team.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Wednesday @ 8:59 AM ET
I don't think replacing a 1st line winger falls into the "easy" bin. But just stating that, unless you can say who will fill his spot, you can't make an educated guess as to how it will affect the team.
- jmatchett383

For the record, I dont either.
But you cant overpay even more a reg season performer either.
Based on who is available, you could guess who might....which is all we can do until he is actually replaced.
Maybe willie moves up to replace Marner and you find a 2nd line winger.
We'll see.
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Wednesday @ 9:01 AM ET
Sam Bennett is on Edmonton?
- jmatchett383


he will be soon
Snot Dillingham
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ontario, ON
Joined: 07.14.2023

Wednesday @ 9:30 AM ET
Don't be stupid. Run it back
- systemtool


I agree, Tree.

Sign Marner, let JayTee walk.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Wednesday @ 9:33 AM ET
I agree, Tree.

Sign Marner, let JayTee walk.

- Snot Dillingham

Depending on cost.
Snot Dillingham
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ontario, ON
Joined: 07.14.2023

Wednesday @ 9:35 AM ET
Depending on cost.
- Fakepartofme


12.5 and a Mill in a briefcase for Paul should get er dun. He wants to stay.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Wednesday @ 9:40 AM ET
I don't think replacing a 1st line winger falls into the "easy" bin. But just stating that, unless you can say who will fill his spot, you can't make an educated guess as to how it will affect the team.
- jmatchett383


Marner doesn't fit with Berube's style, for starters. His game is slow, methodical; he's not going to get in on the forecheck at all.

PK duties, well, as you know, Laughton is a very good PKer and they're generally better suited from your 4th liners, who aren't playing a ton of minutes.

Speaking of minutes, distributing the ice-time better is another bonus side effect of losing Marner: he became every coach's play-thing, like they couldn't stop over-utilizing him in all situations.

In reality, if the Core 4 didn't run the asylum, it would've made far more sense to spread the talent around the lineup, but 34/16 seemed to be nixing that regularly, so it was never tried for more than a few games in the last couple of seasons.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Wednesday @ 9:41 AM ET
I agree, Tree.

Sign Marner, let JayTee walk.

- Snot Dillingham


Who's centering our 2nd line with the 3 dollars we have left?
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Wednesday @ 9:56 AM ET
I agree, Tree.

Sign Marner, let JayTee walk.

- Snot Dillingham


if the rumored price is accurate you wont find better value than JT for a 2nd line.
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Wednesday @ 9:56 AM ET
12.5 and a Mill in a briefcase for Paul should get er dun. He wants to stay.
- Snot Dillingham


to me if he wanted to stay, a deal would already be done
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Wednesday @ 9:57 AM ET
Marner doesn't fit with Berube's style, for starters. His game is slow, methodical; he's not going to get in on the forecheck at all.

PK duties, well, as you know, Laughton is a very good PKer and they're generally better suited from your 4th liners, who aren't playing a ton of minutes.

Speaking of minutes, distributing the ice-time better is another bonus side effect of losing Marner: he became every coach's play-thing, like they couldn't stop over-utilizing him in all situations.

In reality, if the Core 4 didn't run the asylum, it would've made far more sense to spread the talent around the lineup, but 34/16 seemed to be nixing that regularly, so it was never tried for more than a few games in the last couple of seasons.

- gravyface


While I do get this in genera, the top-4 SHG leaders are Gretzky, Messier, Yzerman, and Lemiuex. Other elite players like Datsyuk, Fedorov, Bergeron, and Hossa were considered top PK players in the league. Granted, their skill will allow them to put up more SHG than your average 4th liner, but those players still earned SHO TOI due to just being damn good Sh players.
Snot Dillingham
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ontario, ON
Joined: 07.14.2023

Wednesday @ 9:58 AM ET
Who's centering our 2nd line with the 3 dollars we have left?
- gravyface


Tim Connolly is rested and ready.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Wednesday @ 9:59 AM ET
Tim Connolly is rested and ready.
- Snot Dillingham


Snot Dillingham
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ontario, ON
Joined: 07.14.2023

Wednesday @ 10:00 AM ET
to me if he wanted to stay, a deal would already be done
- senstroll


I think asking him to waive pissed off Ferris N Paul, so they are just playing the game.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Wednesday @ 10:00 AM ET
While I do get this in genera, the top-4 SHG leaders are Gretzky, Messier, Yzerman, and Lemiuex. Other elite players like Datsyuk, Fedorov, Bergeron, and Hossa were considered top PK players in the league. Granted, their skill will allow them to put up more SHG than your average 4th liner, but those players still earned SHO TOI due to just being damn good Sh players.
- jmatchett383


Yeah, and how many does Marner have? 10 in his career? Just saying, it's not like we're losing a dynamic generational scoring winger here.
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Wednesday @ 10:10 AM ET
I think asking him to waive pissed off Ferris N Paul, so they are just playing the game.
- Snot Dillingham


oh good, games

take a hike mitch
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Wednesday @ 10:11 AM ET
Yeah, and how many does Marner have? 10 in his career? Just saying, it's not like we're losing a dynamic generational scoring winger here.
- gravyface


Not at all. Just saying the "Just use your scrubs to kill penalties" mentality that some people have isn't always the best route.
Chunga’s Revenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The present day composer refuses to die - Edgar Varese
Joined: 10.28.2020

Wednesday @ 10:19 AM ET
Marchand likely wants more Cups at this point, probably doesn't need a payday. Keep in mind that Florida has no income tax, which will allow them to take a lower salary for a similar take-home to other teams.

Bennett and Marchand are going nowhere at all.

- jmatchett383

Even taking taxes into account, I don’t see how Florida can keep more than one out of Bennett, Ekblad or Marchand unless they all agree to give up $. Panthers are in a cap hole.
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Wednesday @ 10:28 AM ET
Even taking taxes into account, I don’t see how Florida can keep more than one out of Bennett, Ekblad or Marchand unless they all agree to give up $. Panthers are in a cap hole.
- Chunga’s Revenge


so what I see
Florida has 18.5 cap space with 16 players signed
Leafs have 27.2 cap space with 16 players signed
Chunga’s Revenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The present day composer refuses to die - Edgar Varese
Joined: 10.28.2020

Wednesday @ 10:41 AM ET
so what I see
Florida has 18.5 cap space with 16 players signed
Leafs have 27.2 cap space with 16 players signed

- senstroll

The $9M that Bennett is rumoured to be able to get in free agency costs about $7.5M in Florida. Ekblad is making $7M and will want a raise. Marchand is making $6 but obviously will get less on his next contract. Plus, Panthers need to sign a goalie.

Bennett and Ekblad would take up almost all of their cap space
Snot Dillingham
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ontario, ON
Joined: 07.14.2023

Wednesday @ 10:47 AM ET
oh good, games

take a hike mitch

- senstroll


Well to be fair, Wheelie held out in Sweden till the 11th hour and everyone forgave him.

It will be fine. #teamrunitback
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Wednesday @ 10:49 AM ET
The $9M that Bennett is rumoured to be able to get in free agency costs about $7.5M in Florida. Ekblad is making $7M and will want a raise. Marchand is making $6 but obviously will get less on his next contract. Plus, Panthers need to sign a goalie.

Bennett and Ekblad would take up almost all of their cap space

- Chunga’s Revenge

Ekblad is making 7.5, I think. Idk if he’ll demand a raise. He seems to be willing to take a bit less to stay, we’ll see. Assuming they reach a deal with priority numero uno Sammy, Marchand will be gone, I don’t see how they can re-sign him.

In Zito we trust
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Wednesday @ 10:54 AM ET
Well to be fair, Wheelie held out in Sweden till the 11th hour and everyone forgave him.

It will be fine. #teamrunitback

- Snot Dillingham


different situation now, they have another failure on the resume.
It cant work paying Mitch 13 or 14 and be able to rebuild a deeper playoff team
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