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Has Joel increased hos trade value after this tournament...

Has Joel increased hos trade value after this tournament...
- hello it's me 2050

He didn't have a bad tournament, although he wasn't scoring. Was playing 16-plus minutes a game and played well overall.

He didn't have a bad tournament, although he wasn't scoring. Was playing 16-plus minutes a game and played well overall.
- bmeltzer

I only saw game pits and pieces so can't comment on his play.

What's your gut tell you Bill, does he get moved? Have a good weekend.

I only saw game pits and pieces so can't comment on his play.

What's your gut tell you Bill, does he get moved? Have a good weekend.
- hello it's me 2050

I really wonder if they did move Konecny, then I would not be in any rush to move Farabee.

If they extend Konecny, then I feel like Farabee gets moved as he would be a valuable trade piece then.

Probably doesn't make sense but just what I think could happen

I really wonder if they did move Konecny, then I would not be in any rush to move Farabee.

If they extend Konecny, then I feel like Farabee gets moved as he would be a valuable trade piece then.

Probably doesn't make sense but just what I think could happen
- J35Bacher

I am down with moving both. Tippett, Foerster and MM are all top six pieces. Need that top line center and d-man. Not another two top six/middle six wingers.

Looks to me like Farabee did in this tournament what we should expect him to do. He is a guy that does not have the tools to score on his own. Doesn't have a big shot, doesn't have an exception burst of speed, and is not an elusive player. To me, as I have mentioned several times, he is an OK player with OK skill; does nothing exceptional. I feel he has reached his ceiling. Farabee scores goals primarily when he is positioning himself well in the offensive zone, whether that be in front of the net for tip-ins and deflections, or weak side for easy tap in goals. This is what he is. Not saying he is a bad player or anything like that, just that he is just an OK player. I think the Flyers should trade him now while there is a chance a team thinks they can get more out of him.

I really wonder if they did move Konecny, then I would not be in any rush to move Farabee.

If they extend Konecny, then I feel like Farabee gets moved as he would be a valuable trade piece then.

Probably doesn't make sense but just what I think could happen
- J35Bacher

I think Farabee should be traded regardless. With TK, I think it will come down to what he wants in his next contract. If he wants to maximize his contract, which is his right, I think the Flyers should trade him for assets to try to get a true 1D or 1C. However if TK gives the Flyers a hometown discount because he truly wants to stay here, I would be happy if they extended him and looked to clear cap space elsewhere. I think the Flyers want to extend him, but giving him 8 years at 8-9M just does not make sense to me.

I think Farabee should be traded regardless. With TK, I think it will come down to what he wants in his next contract. If he wants to maximize his contract, which is his right, I think the Flyers should trade him for assets to try to get a true 1D or 1C. However if TK gives the Flyers a hometown discount because he truly wants to stay here, I would be happy if they extended him and looked to clear cap space elsewhere. I think the Flyers want to extend him, but giving him 8 years at 8-9M just does not make sense to me.
- jd250

when are you going to realize that trading TK will not bring you a #1 dman or a #1 center.

also stop with the hometown discount nonsense. Every player pretty much says they want to stay wherever it is they are at. it is player speak.

I really wonder if they did move Konecny, then I would not be in any rush to move Farabee.

If they extend Konecny, then I feel like Farabee gets moved as he would be a valuable trade piece then.

Probably doesn't make sense but just what I think could happen
- J35Bacher

I just wonder will he be moved because the nhl level gm/coach wants him moved.

no issue keeping or moving him in a hockey trade.

it makes sense to me.

"On February 8, 1972, the Flyers goaltender suffered a heart attack during a road game against the Vancouver Canucks. He finished the game but was later hospitalized. "

Unbelievable!!! The guy (Bruce Gamble) has a heart attack AND then finishes the game. LEGEND!

Looks to me like Farabee did in this tournament what we should expect him to do. He is a guy that does not have the tools to score on his own. Doesn't have a big shot, doesn't have an exception burst of speed, and is not an elusive player. To me, as I have mentioned several times, he is an OK player with OK skill; does nothing exceptional. I feel he has reached his ceiling. Farabee scores goals primarily when he is positioning himself well in the offensive zone, whether that be in front of the net for tip-ins and deflections, or weak side for easy tap in goals. This is what he is. Not saying he is a bad player or anything like that, just that he is just an OK player. I think the Flyers should trade him now while there is a chance a team thinks they can get more out of him.
- jd250

This is another in a long line of uninformed posts from you. I suspect that you're now a poster who's only goal is to try and trigger. Either way, it doesn't reflect well on you. You also don't seem to realize that in between exceptional and OK, there is more. As I posted to another poster, Farabee scored 22 goals last season. Despite his slump at the end of the season. The majority of teams in the NHL have 3-4 20 goal or more scorers on their roster. Some have a few more. That makes a 20 goal scorer in this league, far better than just an OK player. Which is why there would be interest in him as a player if the Flyers put him on the market.

You're uninformed in how Farabee scored his goals. It's not predominantly by tip in, deflections and weak side tap ins. That makes up about 50% or so of his goals scored. If you took the time to educate yourself, you would know that. Secondly, showing your lack of hockey knowledge in trying to use that as a negative. That's where goals are scored in the NHL around the net! LOL. There are many, many top goal scorers in the league who score a ton of goals on tip ins, deflections and weak side plays.

I think Farabee should be traded regardless. With TK, I think it will come down to what he wants in his next contract. If he wants to maximize his contract, which is his right, I think the Flyers should trade him for assets to try to get a true 1D or 1C. However if TK gives the Flyers a hometown discount because he truly wants to stay here, I would be happy if they extended him and looked to clear cap space elsewhere. I think the Flyers want to extend him, but giving him 8 years at 8-9M just does not make sense to me.
- jd250

The Flyers are a team lacking in quality skill and talent. Making the statement that Farabee should be traded regardless, an asinine statement.

I really hope Forester is working on his skating this summer. He has a great shot that will only benefit from him creating even a split second more separation.

I only saw game pits and pieces so can't comment on his play.

What's your gut tell you Bill, does he get moved? Have a good weekend.
- hello it's me 2050

He's a player that a lot of teams would have interest in acquiring. So, yes, I think there's a chance he's moved. Tortorella was down on his second half of the season but he had a good bounceback year overall a year after neck surgery.

He's a player that a lot of teams would have interest in acquiring. So, yes, I think there's a chance he's moved. Tortorella was down on his second half of the season but he had a good bounceback year overall a year after neck surgery.
- bmeltzer

Is the coach down on him enough that the coGM needs to facilitate a trade? Does he feel the same about Frost?

Is the coach down on him enough that the coGM needs to facilitate a trade? Does he feel the same about Frost?
- StepfordSam

Yes he feels the same about Frost... remember that Frost got benched for the final 30 minutes of a 1-1 (until the late ENGA) final game that was a must-win.

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He's a player that a lot of teams would have interest in acquiring. So, yes, I think there's a chance he's moved. Tortorella was down on his second half of the season but he had a good bounceback year overall a year after neck surgery.
- bmeltzer

No issue if he stays or goes. He is another player that is just a complimentary type.

He has been an inconsistent player during his tenure here. He is a vet at this point, so is there more to give on his end? maybe. Can he find more consistency? maybe.

He would def have value if they want to make a hockey trade. just not enthused on what the return the 3 heads of the family will want.

Yes he feels the same about Frost... remember that Frost got benched for the final 30 minutes of a 1-1 (until the late ENGA) final game that was a must-win.
- bmeltzer

yes the brilliance of Torts, sit you best skill in a must win. On the other hand, it highlighted and ended up giving Torts what he deserved after all the mind games he played. The epic collapse and that decision, all went together in a nice little package that ego boy deserved. I hope he learned from it.

when are you going to realize that trading TK will not bring you a #1 dman or a #1 center.

also stop with the hometown discount nonsense. Every player pretty much says they want to stay wherever it is they are at. it is player speak.
- hello it's me 2050

I am not saying TK by himself will get the Flyers a 1D or 1C. What he can bring the Flyers are young prospects and high draft picks that will give the Flyers a chance to draft and develop a 1D or 1C. If a team has a 1C or 1D, they would never trade that player.

The Flyers are a team lacking in quality skill and talent. Making the statement that Farabee should be traded regardless, an asinine statement.
- MJL

You just said, the Flyers lack quality skill and talent. Farabee has neither! Just face it, you are wrong about Farabee, he is just an OK player with OK skill. The Flyers can do better.

I am not saying TK by himself will get the Flyers a 1D or 1C. What he can bring the Flyers are young prospects and high draft picks that will give the Flyers a chance to draft and develop a 1D or 1C. If a team has a 1C or 1D, they would never trade that player.
- jd250

what is the expectation for a high draft pick for TK? What range do you think it will be?

This is another in a long line of uninformed posts from you. I suspect that you're now a poster who's only goal is to try and trigger. Either way, it doesn't reflect well on you. You also don't seem to realize that in between exceptional and OK, there is more. As I posted to another poster, Farabee scored 22 goals last season. Despite his slump at the end of the season. The majority of teams in the NHL have 3-4 20 goal or more scorers on their roster. Some have a few more. That makes a 20 goal scorer in this league, far better than just an OK player. Which is why there would be interest in him as a player if the Flyers put him on the market.

You're uninformed in how Farabee scored his goals. It's not predominantly by tip in, deflections and weak side tap ins. That makes up about 50% or so of his goals scored. If you took the time to educate yourself, you would know that. Secondly, showing your lack of hockey knowledge in trying to use that as a negative. That's where goals are scored in the NHL around the net! LOL. There are many, many top goal scorers in the league who score a ton of goals on tip ins, deflections and weak side plays.
- MJL

Go review Farabee's goals last year and then come back to me. You are the only one here that is uniformed.

what is the expectation for a high draft pick for TK? What range do you think it will be?
- hello it's me 2050

If I was trading TK I would want a 1st round pick, a 2nd and a prospect. The problem with TK is he is due a big extension, so that will limit the teams that will want him.