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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jun 12 @ 10:43 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits:
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
Can't wait for the York piece. Loved watching him this year
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jun 12 @ 11:35 AM ET
Can't wait for the York piece. Loved watching him this year
- 2Real

Huge York fan here.

CY or CC? I remember how hot so many of us were that we passed over CC twice. York still seems like the better pick, imo. He's still far from hitting his ceiling, too
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
Huge York fan here.

CY or CC? I remember how hot so many of us were that we passed over CC twice. York still seems like the better pick, imo. He's still far from hitting his ceiling, too

- Bob Habib

I mean if you evaluated that right now CC would be the obvious pick. We'll see once York gets more time... D takes longer
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits:
- bmeltzer

they are dragging this trial out as a form of punishment imo
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jun 12 @ 12:09 PM ET
Huge York fan here.

CY or CC? I remember how hot so many of us were that we passed over CC twice. York still seems like the better pick, imo. He's still far from hitting his ceiling, too

- Bob Habib

And how do you know what his ceiling is? Maybe has hit it. At this point in their careers CC is the far superior player. Let's hope York develops into a solid top 4 defenseman
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 12 @ 12:09 PM ET
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:09 PM ET
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:10 PM ET
Can't wait for the York piece. Loved watching him this year
- 2Real


If he can add a little bit more O, he will could cap out as a solid #2
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jun 12 @ 12:10 PM ET
they are dragging this trial out as a form of punishment imo
- hello it's me 2050

No it's just the Canadien legal system. These guys should be suspended pending the court hearing and take the onus off the teams
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
No it's just the Canadien legal system. These guys should be suspended pending the court hearing and take the onus off the teams
- hfc355

to me they should be allowed to play until proven guilty.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:20 PM ET
If he can add a little bit more O, he will could cap out as a solid #2
- wcorvette


I think York is already a solid player with room to grow. However I have doubts that he will rise to the level of being a legit top pairing NHL defenseman on his own merits.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:20 PM ET
No it's just the Canadien legal system. These guys should be suspended pending the court hearing and take the onus off the teams
- hfc355


I wonder if the nhlpa might have something to say about that? If it’s suspended with pay fine.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:38 PM ET
I wonder if the nhlpa might have something to say about that? If it’s suspended with pay fine.
- Hextall271


I don't think the NHLPA would have any standing. There are clauses in every SPC to deal with issues like that.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
they are dragging this trial out as a form of punishment imo
- hello it's me 2050


This is actually being expedited.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 12 @ 12:45 PM ET
I wonder if the nhlpa might have something to say about that? If it’s suspended with pay fine.
- Hextall271


They're all currently free agents. They're not entitled to any pay moving forward.
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Jun 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
No it's just the Canadien legal system. These guys should be suspended pending the court hearing and take the onus off the teams
- hfc355

to me they should be allowed to play until proven guilty.


Wouldn't that just be compounding the issue until it is resolved legally? Think, Wow they just let them keep playing even know they were found guilty or not guilty. Many peoples jobs would be lost in a scenario like that.


They are going the best route, but agree that they are in no rush with this case after they brushed it under the rug for a few years.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:07 PM ET
I think York is already a solid player with room to grow. However I have doubts that he will rise to the level of being a legit top pairing NHL defenseman on his own merits.
- MJL


you can hope, at 23 for sure he can grow and that should be the on the O side. Over simplification but if you look at the top 35 D by point this season, that number is around 42. If you look at goals it is 10, York landed 30 points and 10 goals. I think he has shown he can defend, as he hits his prime he should get better with his reads, positioning and fully fill out body wise, allowing him to use his body to protect the puck better. If you look at the top D by point again, about 2/3rds played on playoff teams, York played on the Flyers (no PP etc), it is not a stretch to think the Flyers O should get better with time, York getting better with them, I think with a good #1 you could see York being a solid #2, he is does not have 1 outstanding trait, but he is good at most things.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jun 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
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- hello it's me 2050


just stop
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 12 @ 1:13 PM ET
just stop
- anti-lame

go sell some popcorn
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:18 PM ET
you can hope, at 23 for sure he can grow and that should be the on the O side. Over simplification but if you look at the top 35 D by point this season, that number is around 42. If you look at goals it is 10, York landed 30 points and 10 goals. I think he has shown he can defend, as he hits his prime he should get better with his reads, positioning and fully fill out body wise, allowing him to use his body to protect the puck better. If you look at the top D by point again, about 2/3rds played on playoff teams, York played on the Flyers (no PP etc), it is not a stretch to think the Flyers O should get better with time, York getting better with them, I think with a good #1 you could see York being a solid #2, he is does not have 1 outstanding trait, but he is good at most things.
- wcorvette


I think the mostly likely way for York to increase his point totals is on the PP. Personally I don't see him as a significant point producer on the PP. I don't see that talent in him. There is a difference between being a complimentary player, playing with a #1 versus being a #2 defenseman on your own merit.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
I think the mostly likely way for York to increase his point totals is on the PP. Personally I don't see him as a significant point producer on the PP. I don't see that talent in him. There is a difference between being a complimentary player, playing with a #1 versus being a #2 defenseman on your own merit.
- MJL


can be true, but having the right partner raises your game, and it is still your game. You give York the right partner, we will be able to see his lid.
FlyersFanInPhoenix
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 10.31.2020

Jun 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
<< to me they should be allowed to play until proven guilty. >>

Even if allowed, how well would any of them play?
Especially for a goalie, his head must be 100% in the game.

bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 1:27 PM ET
And how do you know what his ceiling is? Maybe has hit it. At this point in their careers CC is the far superior player. Let's hope York develops into a solid top 4 defenseman
- hfc355


I think thats a strech saying that , also curious if CC can stay healthy. CC right has topped out at a 65 point player. I would say york is comparable on D to a 65 point player, or close to it. Definately not far superior.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 12 @ 1:28 PM ET
<< to me they should be allowed to play until proven guilty. >>

Even if allowed, how well would any of them play?
Especially for a goalie, his head must be 100% in the game.

- FlyersFanInPhoenix

He played quite well the entire year, everyone knew this was coming
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