York Newbury: Canucks Thrash Jets

Wow Hellebyuck looked like Luongo in PO game node last night...

Jets aint going very far if Helly continues to play like that in the PO's.

Good win Nucks.

#Goalies

Wow Hellebyuck looked like Luongo in PO game node last night...

Jets aint going very far if Helly continues to play like that in the PO's.

Good win Nucks.

#Goalies


- LordHumungous

So nice to see the Jets get steamrolled and just overall look like a mediocre team - it happens to the best teams from time to time. It's also a glimpse of what this team is capable of doing - when they play to their strengths.

We are a well constructed team in certain ways. We have world class goalies, the most well rounded D unit we've had in over a decade and a decent forward group.

It's insane how difficrent the forwards look when the play off the rush, gain the zone with control and use their speed through the N-zone and play hard on the forecheck. Having Garland and Chytil back in the lineup helps but we really need the bottom 6 guys to chip in. Having Boeser wake the fawk up didn't hurt either.

So nice to see the Jets get steamrolled and just overall look like a mediocre team - it happens to the best teams from time to time. It's also a glimpse of what this team is capable of doing - when they play to their strengths.

We are a well constructed team in certain ways. We have world class goalies, the most well rounded D unit we've had in over a decade and a decent forward group.

It's insane how difficrent the forwards look when the play off the rush, gain the zone with control and use their speed through the N-zone and play hard on the forecheck. Having Garland and Chytil back in the lineup helps but we really need the bottom 6 guys to chip in. Having Boeser wake the fawk up didn't hurt either.
- Brooks_Light

Drance was also talking about how different the PP looked with Lekker on it. He adds a dimension with his shot and vision.

The PK has also been lights out since trading Miller (he's always sucked on the PK). If they win the special teams battles most nights, they have a good chance of making a little noise. From the Athletic:

Stay elite on the penalty kill, find more on the power play

Yes, the power play has been frustrating to watch on occasion — especially on Sunday evening, during a feckless four-minute opportunity in the third period against Utah — but make no mistake, special teams have carried the Canucks of late.

That starts on the penalty kill, which had been solid all season, exceptional since Christmas and on another level entirely since the Miller trade. In 16 games since Feb. 1, after which the Canucks added Marcus Pettersson and Drew O’Connor into their penalty-killing rotation, Vancouver has managed a kill rate of 92.1 percent — permitting just three goals against in 38 short-handed opportunities during that stretch.

That 92.1 percent-kill rate might actually undersell just how dominant Vancouver’s penalty kill has become. Because, in truth, while the Canucks have surrendered just three power-play goals against in their last 16 games, they’ve also managed a short-handed goal, bringing their actual goal differential up to minus-2. They’re also leading the league across this stretch in short-handed goals-against rate by a massive margin (Vancouver is permitting 2.5 goals per hour, and the next closest team is nearly double that amount), while dramatically limiting easy entry into the zone, which has resulted in the Canucks permitting shot attempts at an incredible clip over the past six weeks.

The lion’s share of credit for this has to be awarded to the trio of Derek Forbort, Teddy Blueger and Pius Suter, who log the most short-handed ice time for the team. In over 35 minutes of work across the board since the Miller trade, the ace penalty-killing trio hasn’t been on the ice for a power-play goal against.

While the penalty kill is tuning opposition power plays, Vancouver’s power play has slogged along rather less impressively. The bar, however, for the Canucks to win the special teams battle more often than not is pretty low given how effectively they have killed off penalties. And with 10 goals in their last 16 games — and a short-handed goal against — Vancouver’s power play has managed to step over it.

Since trading Miller, an incredibly versatile power-play weapon and one of the smartest five-on-four operators in the league, the Canucks power play has managed to tick at an above-20-percent conversion rate. That the Canucks have weathered the loss of Miller with the man advantage and sustained a reasonable conversion rate through multiple extended Hughes absences is pretty incredible, even if their effectiveness on the power play has been buoyed by shooting efficiency more than anything else.

Yes, the power play hasn’t always inspired confidence. It’s rarely been pretty. With the man advantage, however, the Canucks are doing enough to give themselves a significant special teams edge.

That edge has been decisive. It’s kept the Canucks afloat even as they’ve been outscored at five-on-five since the Miller trade. The Canucks will need that special teams advantage to persist down the stretch, especially with how difficult the remaining schedule is about to get.

Thanks Yorkie.

Thanks NYN

So nice to see the Jets get steamrolled and just overall look like a mediocre team - it happens to the best teams from time to time. It's also a glimpse of what this team is capable of doing - when they play to their strengths.

We are a well constructed team in certain ways. We have world class goalies, the most well rounded D unit we've had in over a decade and a decent forward group.

It's insane how difficrent the forwards look when the play off the rush, gain the zone with control and use their speed through the N-zone and play hard on the forecheck. Having Garland and Chytil back in the lineup helps but we really need the bottom 6 guys to chip in. Having Boeser wake the fawk up didn't hurt either.
- Brooks_Light

Yeah all good points especially when the forwards are firing on the forecheck/rush. Last season so many teams commented on how difficult it was to play Van when all 4 lines were forechecking hard and firing. Looks like we have a bit of that back just need to keep it rolling.

So nice to see the Jets get steamrolled and just overall look like a mediocre team - it happens to the best teams from time to time. It's also a glimpse of what this team is capable of doing - when they play to their strengths.

We are a well constructed team in certain ways. We have world class goalies, the most well rounded D unit we've had in over a decade and a decent forward group.

It's insane how difficrent the forwards look when the play off the rush, gain the zone with control and use their speed through the N-zone and play hard on the forecheck. Having Garland and Chytil back in the lineup helps but we really need the bottom 6 guys to chip in. Having Boeser wake the fawk up didn't hurt either.
- Brooks_Light

Sherwood has had a couple of beauty assists in the last week. Very glad he's under contract for another year

Best team in the NHL thanks Yorkie, morning laugh is always nice

Best team in the NHL thanks Yorkie, morning laugh is always nice
- neem55

Going into last night's game the Jets were #1 in the league with the best goals for/against differential. By the standings they were the best team in the NHL. But sure.

Sherwood has had a couple of beauty assists in the last week. Very glad he's under contract for another year
- NorthNuck

Yeah man, his no look pass to Aman was incredible - nice to see the bot 6 guys waking the fawk up.

Actually everyone seems to be waking up - its all us fans can ask for. I think it's fair to say this team - when playing as a unit - are capable of doing some damage.

They obviously need some more elite fire power in the top 6 - hopefully it's #1 Priority in the offseason.

Yeah man, his no look pass to Aman was incredible - nice to see the bot 6 guys waking the fawk up.

Actually everyone seems to be waking up - its all us fans can ask for. I think it's fair to say this team - when playing as a unit - are capable of doing some damage.

They obviously need some more elite fire power in the top 6 - hopefully it's #1 Priority in the offseason.
- Brooks_Light

Yeah. Lekkerimaki looks good and has potential, but he needs some time to turn into a proper goal scorer. I know it'll never happen, but I would love the Canucks to take a run at signing Ehlers this summer. Speed and goal scoring in the top 6 is the biggest need.

Funny how much quieter it is around here whenever the vibes shift to positive for the team

Going into last night's game the Jets were #1 in the league with the best goals for/against differential. By the standings they were the best team in the NHL. But sure.
- NewYorkNuck

He's often like this after a bed wetting episode.

In terms of adding in the off season (top 6)

Obviously, big ticket guys that could actually move the needle are Marner & Ehlers?

Then there's a bunch of older, somewhat past-their-prime guys that really can't be relied on to take on such a heavy burden like Duchene, Tavares, Benn, Girioux, Hall, Gourde, Granlund, Bennett, Kane.

Then tertiary guys that would be more complementary pieces: Fabbri, Mantha, Tanev, Iafallo, Roslovic, Driun, Appleton, Geekie, Olefsson - feel like we got enough of these kinda guys.

Would it be possible to snag a young RFA by Offer Sheet? With the cap going up significantly, that limits the amount of teams to target.

Lowest Projected cap space 26' = Dallas(5mil), Colorado(8mil), St.Louis(9mil), Tampa(9mil), Vegas(10mil), NYR(10mil) on (11mil) Van (13mil)

guys like Bourque, Holtz, Cuylle - SLIM PICKINS

In terms of adding in the off season (top 6)

Obviously, big ticket guys that could actually move the needle are Marner & Ehlers?

Then there's a bunch of older, somewhat past-their-prime guys that really can't be relied on to take on such a heavy burden like Duchene, Tavares, Benn, Girioux, Hall, Gourde, Granlund, Bennett, Kane.

Then tertiary guys that would be more complementary pieces: Fabbri, Mantha, Tanev, Iafallo, Roslovic, Driun, Appleton, Geekie, Olefsson - feel like we got enough of these kinda guys.

Would it be possible to snag a young RFA by Offer Sheet? With the cap going up significantly, that limits the amount of teams to target.

Lowest Projected cap space 26' = Dallas(5mil), Colorado(8mil), St.Louis(9mil), Tampa(9mil), Vegas(10mil), NYR(10mil) on (11mil) Van (13mil)

guys like Bourque, Holtz, Cuylle - SLIM PICKINS
- Brooks_Light

If it were me, it'd be a run at Marner or Ehlers. Everyone else, like you said, doesn't really move the needle, and they have enough middle 6 guys already (and a couple upcoming).

More than likely you'll see a trade for some top 6 help. Too many draft picks burning holes in pockets at the moment.

Yeah. Lekkerimaki looks good and has potential, but he needs some time to turn into a proper goal scorer. I know it'll never happen, but I would love the Canucks to take a run at signing Ehlers this summer. Speed and goal scoring in the top 6 is the biggest need.

Funny how much quieter it is around here whenever the vibes shift to positive for the team
- NorthNuck

Yup there's an overwhelming amount of "fans" in here that absolutely hate when the team wins or plays well. Fawks up their narrative!

Zero "props" will be given.

Cracks me up when posters in here complain about Hughes dominance as if its a bad thing.

I love this one - "the whole team relies on him" and the oilers dont rely on Leon/McD? Having a dude that singlehandedily steal games is a great problem to have.

Or my fav "trade him now while he has value." and then what? Anybody think We'll ever draft another QH??

In terms of adding in the off season (top 6)

Obviously, big ticket guys that could actually move the needle are Marner & Ehlers?

Then there's a bunch of older, somewhat past-their-prime guys that really can't be relied on to take on such a heavy burden like Duchene, Tavares, Benn, Girioux, Hall, Gourde, Granlund, Bennett, Kane.

Then tertiary guys that would be more complementary pieces: Fabbri, Mantha, Tanev, Iafallo, Roslovic, Driun, Appleton, Geekie, Olefsson - feel like we got enough of these kinda guys.

Would it be possible to snag a young RFA by Offer Sheet? With the cap going up significantly, that limits the amount of teams to target.

Lowest Projected cap space 26' = Dallas(5mil), Colorado(8mil), St.Louis(9mil), Tampa(9mil), Vegas(10mil), NYR(10mil) on (11mil) Van (13mil)

guys like Bourque, Holtz, Cuylle - SLIM PICKINS
- Brooks_Light

A hard no on Marner but Ehlers would be interesting.

If it were me, it'd be a run at Marner or Ehlers. Everyone else, like you said, doesn't really move the needle, and they have enough middle 6 guys already (and a couple upcoming).

More than likely you'll see a trade for some top 6 help. Too many draft picks burning holes in pockets at the moment.
- NewYorkNuck

Marner is useless in the playoffs.

If it were me, it'd be a run at Marner or Ehlers. Everyone else, like you said, doesn't really move the needle, and they have enough middle 6 guys already (and a couple upcoming).

More than likely you'll see a trade for some top 6 help. Too many draft picks burning holes in pockets at the moment.
- NewYorkNuck

Brutal - I'll fly to Vancouver and personal kick Alvin and old Ruthy in the sack d-ecole myself if those two twits trade our 1st or 2nd. These dippoops have got to stop trading picks. We need to follow the Carolina model of attaining picks every year, regardless of where we are in standings.

Theres becoming a huge gap in the future of prospects on this team. The cubboards are getting bare after Raty, Lekker, Willander, Mynio - Kudrayatsav, Mueller, Klimavich are fringe guys.

I'm not sure there's anyone in that first group I'd be willing to part with - maybe Mynio but the second group doesn't fetch much.

Demkos the biggest trade chip in reality.

I wonder if Jaime Benn would sign here for a couple years cheap .
Play him on a line with EP for some veteran leadership and toughness

A hard no on Marner but Ehlers would be interesting.
- LordHumungous

Hard no on a 1.12PPG player over his career???? - 50pts in 57 playoff games. The dude typically puts up 90+ points consistently but sure why would we want a guy like that??
Vs.
Ehlers .77PPG and 4g / 14pts in 37 playoff games

Not sure that makes much sense. I like both players TBH. Marners clearly better, an elite distributor, 25goals guranteed, special teams beast, about to turn 28 - still a lot of good years left.

The olive branch is Marner does seem to somewhat disappear in the POs but in fairness - most of the Leafs stars do as well.
His price tag is gonna be HIGH - a lot of suitors.

Marner is useless in the playoffs.
- Marwood

All of Toronto is. But he has 50 points in 57 playoff games, which is solid. A change of scenery would do him well. The team needs another high-end contributor, and he's really the only one for "free" that's available.

Brutal - I'll fly to Vancouver and personal kick Alvin and old Ruthy in the sack d-ecole myself if those two twits trade our 1st or 2nd. These dippoops have got to stop trading picks. We need to follow the Carolina model of attaining picks every year, regardless of where we are in standings.

Theres becoming a huge gap in the future of prospects on this team. The cubboards are getting bare after Raty, Lekker, Willander, Mynio - Kudrayatsav, Mueller, Klimavich are fringe guys.

I'm not sure there's anyone in that first group I'd be willing to part with - maybe Mynio but the second group doesn't fetch much.

Demkos the biggest trade chip in reality.
- Brooks_Light

That 1st or 2nd is what, 3-4 years away from contributing? They're banking everything on the Hughes window. They get someone in the 24-26 age range and they'll become part of the core of the team.

I wonder if Jaime Benn would sign here for a couple years cheap .
Play him on a line with EP for some veteran leadership and toughness
- onesmallleap

He's still playing at a high level, despite his age - consistently putting up great numbers. I doubt he's taking any discount. I'm assuming he'll wanna stay in Dallas, especially considering they're about to go on the run - they're getting close.

Expect the same from Duchene.

I also wonder how great they'd be thrust into a new market - on not as good of a team?

That 1st or 2nd is what, 3-4 years away from contributing? They're banking everything on the Hughes window. They get someone in the 24-26 age range and they'll become part of the core of the team.
- NewYorkNuck

Not necessarily - depending on how good they are, they could be 1-2 years. There's Currently 23 of 32 1st rounders from 22' draft are in the league.

That core will have zero help when/if they start making consistent playoff runs - in the next 3-6 years. Lekker/DPetey - 22' Willander/Mynio - 23' - NO ONE from 24' - the gap has begun.

Another huge consideration is not having high end prospects/productive guys on ELC's during "the window" - all successful/cup winning teams rely heavily on those type of contributions. And that's where theres gonna be a huge gap if they don't start drafting AND hitting on regularily with 1st & 2nds.