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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Nov 24 @ 12:37 PM ET
Jeremy Laura: Another coach is let go, is Detroit considering a change?
saintdog19
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 10.23.2021

Nov 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
I personally like Gallant as he gets a lot out of teams with mediocre talent. Federov would also be really interesting and exciting for the fan base. But truly if yzerman continues to not pull the trigger maybe we should talk about Scotty Bowman or Dale Tallon for GM.
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

Nov 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
I personally like Gallant as he gets a lot out of teams with mediocre talent. Federov would also be really interesting and exciting for the fan base. But truly if yzerman continues to not pull the trigger maybe we should talk about Scotty Bowman or Dale Tallon for GM.
- saintdog19



Gallant is a head case and destroys team moral.
He has a very short leash before people figure out he’s toxic. Now you want Bowman or Tallon πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

Patience snowflakes, patience
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Nov 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
If Y is in sell-mode this year, as I now belive that will happen, then it does not matter if Lalonde finishes out the season. If a coach like Sully becomes available, there is good reason to make a move.
I say no to Gallant, there has to be good reasons that he has been fired mid season so many times.
I also think Y gets a pass for 1 more full year. He assembled this mess and gets 1 more season to make it better.
Gertner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.04.2017

Nov 24 @ 7:28 PM ET
Yzerman should go with him
saintdog19
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 10.23.2021

Nov 24 @ 8:32 PM ET
Gallant has worked wonders with teams that were given no chance. He has taken has beens and leftovers (Vegas) and turned them into competitive hockey teams. He would be a huge upgrade over dumb as nails Lalonde. The players that play for Gallant love him and his problems seem to come from management kind of like Ted Nolan. Fake news says he is mind case etc Plse refer your sources. Sound kinda like fake news same fake news that said Trump would lose election. The facts are Gallant wins hockey games and Trump wins elections. Snowflakes are melting everywhere. Time to stop believing in Lalonde and possibly Yzerman. How long do you believe people should continue to pay good money to go to these games to continue to watch this crap. Plse give me an actual year you believe that the rebuild should end.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Nov 24 @ 8:56 PM ET
Gallant has worked wonders with teams that were given no chance. He has taken has beens and leftovers (Vegas) and turned them into competitive hockey teams. He would be a huge upgrade over dumb as nails Lalonde. The players that play for Gallant love him and his problems seem to come from management kind of like Ted Nolan. Fake news says he is mind case etc Plse refer your sources. Sound kinda like fake news same fake news that said Trump would lose election. The facts are Gallant wins hockey games and Trump wins elections. Snowflakes are melting everywhere. Time to stop believing in Lalonde and possibly Yzerman. How long do you believe people should continue to pay good money to go to these games to continue to watch this crap. Plse give me an actual year you believe that the rebuild should end.
- saintdog19

Kenny has said that a rebuild takes 10 years. Example: Buffalo
Then one looks at Calgary, who is in their 3rd, and say, "Wow, this is easy".
Detroit did not have the players to deal for futures that the Flames had. Kenny never started a real rebuild. So it takes longer with what Kenny left Y. But I concede that they should be farther along.
saintdog19
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 10.23.2021

Nov 24 @ 9:29 PM ET
Kenny has said that a rebuild takes 10 years. Example: Buffalo
Then one looks at Calgary, who is in their 3rd, and say, "Wow, this is easy".
Detroit did not have the players to deal for futures that the Flames had. Kenny never started a real rebuild. So it takes longer with what Kenny left Y. But I concede that they should be farther along.

- HenryHockey

10 years is way to long and Buffalo is a joke Not sure how many coaches and GM they have gone through but I do feel sorry for there fans I just hope we are not the next Buffalo ,even in the dead wing era the team did not go 10 years without making playoffs. Mind you this might be the worst era in Red Wings history. I thought last year we were on the right track but a lot of questionable moves by Yzerman has really turned my faith
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:36 PM ET
Kenny has said that a rebuild takes 10 years. Example: Buffalo
Then one looks at Calgary, who is in their 3rd, and say, "Wow, this is easy".
Detroit did not have the players to deal for futures that the Flames had. Kenny never started a real rebuild. So it takes longer with what Kenny left Y. But I concede that they should be farther along.

- HenryHockey


Kenny screwed this team over bad and Yzerman hasn't helped.
They BOTH hire people who draft like crap and it's hurt this organization for far to long.
AaronR37
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 11.27.2009

Nov 25 @ 9:42 AM ET
I have a feeling that Yzerman is too much of a loyalist. Lalonde is probably here for the season. At this time, he's probably already thinking about selling at the deadline. It amazes me that he seems unwilling to not only part with his ineffective coach, but he's also afraid to shake up his team.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 25 @ 9:50 AM ET
Please take Tortorella off of our hands.
bluelineenforcer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 10.21.2019

Nov 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
Kenny screwed this team over bad and Yzerman hasn't helped.
They BOTH hire people who draft like crap and it's hurt this organization for far to long.


I know. I think of all the players who would have the Wings in the cup hunt that were taken after Seider. I think of all the all-star caliber players that were taken behind Raymond the next year. There were so many HOF caliber players taken after Edvinsson and Kasper. Just look at the massive volume of players who have carved out elite NHL careers after being drafted after Danielson and MSB. These don't even account for all of the elite goalies that were taken after Cossa and Augustine sitting as #1 netminders all over the league.

It should only take six months to a year for top 10 draft pick to be ready for 1st line roles on the big team. It's super simple to identify future elite NHL players when they are 17 years old, and if they aren't in the show by 18, they are obviously busts. There's no reason to give young players time to develop, if they don't make it within a year, trade them for all the elite, first line players who are always available. There's always a surplus of elite netminders, so I don't understand why they won't just trade one of their mid-level, aging veterans for one. This isn't hard and a rebuild should be quick. Just look at all the cups Edmonton, Toronto, Buffalo, Anaheim and SJ have one after years of being in the lottery.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Nov 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
I know. I think of all the players who would have the Wings in the cup hunt that were taken after Seider. I think of all the all-star caliber players that were taken behind Raymond the next year. There were so many HOF caliber players taken after Edvinsson and Kasper. Just look at the massive volume of players who have carved out elite NHL careers after being drafted after Danielson and MSB. These don't even account for all of the elite goalies that were taken after Cossa and Augustine sitting as #1 netminders all over the league.

It should only take six months to a year for top 10 draft pick to be ready for 1st line roles on the big team. It's super simple to identify future elite NHL players when they are 17 years old, and if they aren't in the show by 18, they are obviously busts. There's no reason to give young players time to develop, if they don't make it within a year, trade them for all the elite, first line players who are always available. There's always a surplus of elite netminders, so I don't understand why they won't just trade one of their mid-level, aging veterans for one. This isn't hard and a rebuild should be quick. Just look at all the cups Edmonton, Toronto, Buffalo, Anaheim and SJ have one after years of being in the lottery.

- bluelineenforcer

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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Nov 25 @ 11:34 AM ET
I know. I think of all the players who would have the Wings in the cup hunt that were taken after Seider. I think of all the all-star caliber players that were taken behind Raymond the next year. There were so many HOF caliber players taken after Edvinsson and Kasper. Just look at the massive volume of players who have carved out elite NHL careers after being drafted after Danielson and MSB. These don't even account for all of the elite goalies that were taken after Cossa and Augustine sitting as #1 netminders all over the league.

It should only take six months to a year for top 10 draft pick to be ready for 1st line roles on the big team. It's super simple to identify future elite NHL players when they are 17 years old, and if they aren't in the show by 18, they are obviously busts. There's no reason to give young players time to develop, if they don't make it within a year, trade them for all the elite, first line players who are always available. There's always a surplus of elite netminders, so I don't understand why they won't just trade one of their mid-level, aging veterans for one. This isn't hard and a rebuild should be quick. Just look at all the cups Edmonton, Toronto, Buffalo, Anaheim and SJ have one after years of being in the lottery.

- bluelineenforcer


your stupid and sarcastic commentary aside. the drafting has been horrible.
Yzerman and Holland hurt this team with their bad drafting. AND who cares what other teams are doing. it seems you enjoy losing. loser.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Nov 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
NYR are shopping Krieder and Trouba.
Copp for Krieder? Copp was real good with NYR as a rental. Copp is a better defensive forward, Kreider is a great net front guy. Do the Wings sacrifice D for more scoring. I would think so at this point.
Would the 2 teams revisit a Trouba trade? NYR has all 3 retention spots. Detroit needs more physicality on the blue line, but Trouba does take a lot of penalties. Would Petry go to NYR to contend for a Cup? Petry+ for Trouba at $4.5M? Would Trouba waive for Detroit if a less desirable team is bidding for him that he cannot block? Then the Wings have Gus to give also. Gus played on NYR and would simply replace Trouba on the 3rd pairing and has a 3rd pairing salary, but has another year. I think Petry and his expiring contract would be more desirable to them.