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Zach Jarom
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.01.2019

Feb 17 @ 12:41 PM ET
Zach Jarom: Game Day: Hawks vs Sens and Quick Hits
RaleighHawk
Joined: 03.29.2016

Feb 17 @ 1:03 PM ET
Will be at the game on Monday--good test against Canes D. Really only watching 3 players--easy to guess who.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 17 @ 1:41 PM ET
Seem to recall that Korpisalo has played well vs Blackhawks, or had some good games
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Feb 17 @ 3:40 PM ET
Megna goes out of his way to make a hit, Sens get an odd man rush and the game is tied.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 17 @ 3:55 PM ET
Megna goes out of his way to make a hit, Sens get an odd man rush and the game is tied.
- breadbag


Korchinski so close to breaking that up.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 17 @ 3:58 PM ET
It's nice to see at least we have one line that has some chemistry.
bigfly46
Location: highland, IN
Joined: 04.21.2015

Feb 17 @ 4:22 PM ET
Jared Tinordi is a Norris candidate (puke) can’t we just have Phillips play or some other young dman to get experience in the last 20 something games?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Feb 17 @ 4:28 PM ET
Jared Tinordi is a Norris candidate (puke) can’t we just have Phillips play or some other young dman to get experience in the last 20 something games?
- bigfly46

Crevier who’s a 7th round pick is already more dependable than Tinordi. #98 is a bust.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 17 @ 4:30 PM ET
Is Korchinski hurt?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 17 @ 4:43 PM ET
Is Korchinski hurt?
- BetweenTheDots


Not sure, but he sure hasn’t taken a regular shift in a bit.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 17 @ 5:08 PM ET
Not sure, but he sure hasn’t taken a regular shift in a bit.
- Chunk


There he is
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 17 @ 5:25 PM ET
That's to bad
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 17 @ 6:32 PM ET
It seems that picks #2 - #7 are all close in quality/potential, so the Hawks will get a very good prospect no matter who they select.

The Hawks need goal scoring, that’s why I’m leaning towards Eiserman or Demidov.

I like Hage with Tampa’s pick, or Jircek if he’s available.

- DarthKane


I really like Michael Hage and his profiles say exactly why. (hint type Michael Hage Lines.com or see the entire not completely re-organized draft through https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts. )
I really reach with Hage's slotting because I know he isn't going to be there in the early second, and unlike Kyle I doubt I am pleasantly surprised like he was when Ollie Moor was, so I plant the flag/tentpole on him b/c I love his upside over the rest of the guys in that area. (I we don't know if the Lightning win some rounds and it ends up like slot #30.)I think that there are lots of players that could end up good ones in the slotting where TB pick will be.
It makes sense if to best player at TB pick, but a lot depends on what teams do, but if you get Lindstom early I want his linemate Andrew Basha with tB's


After I started throwing up my 3rd round profiles, I decided I need to do an entire re-slotting. But I am starting to feel we gonna have some nice shots at good 2nd and 3rd rounders...and I agree maybe there is more to mine in teh start of the fourth round too.

I will try to answer any stuff any time, and I went off that last blog figuring I was the last post- I go back and there is all these comments I want to comment on.

Once the Hawks come on, I usually watch a bit delayed to miss at least the first intermission. (I will return closer to due date, so I see the Chelly baby board live on the intermission.)

There are more than 80 profiles up on top three round players on my Mock, ad should be close to finishing round three soon. <--this was true until I started moving prospects and so the 3rd needs a fe and the 4th has many done.

Click on the player. These are guys Pronman doesn't have in his due or his words.



Another draft eligible guy on Sudbury, Kieron Walton made a nice end to end rush to score. Huge guy 6’6” over 200 lbs as a 17 year old. Pretty good skater good stick handler, gets involved physically but doesn’t appear that strong.
- paulr
. Kieron Walton DONE go to --> Kieron Walton Lines.com
I have Walton going by slot #80 and th hawks do have slot #70 (approx) and I have a Latvian giant forward in it, Eriks Mateiko.. yup he has a profile click on it.

Wiz, Celebrini, Lindstrom and Eiserman are gone and the Hawks draft 4th. Would you take Zayne Parekh?
- Mr Ricochet

Wow...I see that as almost a must to get me yet another forward, not taking the best player available...and Ric, you have Bedard leading us out of last place, and losing the lottery.

I currently have Zayne Parekh lasting to slot #11 (maybe Calgary doesn't take Jaron's, son, Tij Iginla and Washington then gets to choose defenseman Zanye or potential high end centre-fwd in Konsta Helenius

The game is so much more about offense, but the backend still has to handle business in their end, like Makar does.
If your scouting staffs he can and over the course of time is abetter long term bet for the franchises than the Russian DEFENDER-giant Anton Silayev, or Demidov along with the smooth skating big Artyom Levshunov, a right hander who is on a fast track to the NHL, or the much safer, defensively solid, although a LD, Sam Richardinson, you would have to be convinced that Zayne Parekh he can give your team more than any of these guys or Berkly Catton, because he isn't a slug as a small second line offensive generator, or if you are thinking your Makar clone comes in the economy size and us named Carter Yakemchuk.

Id you are sure Zayne Parekh brings a dimension that is not in Korchinski wheel house, you think hard on it, and you don't look back if the Russians or the Finn. do succeed.

There was a link someone asked me to comment on and now I cannot find it.
Ok, I found it:
Hey Wiz
Posted this link in the last blog.

Any chance you take a look and give feedback?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ankings-february-edition/

- captainserious


It is a fairly good list for a first round except Colton Robert has no business in the first- he is #83 on mine....
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Feb 17 @ 6:52 PM ET
I missed the third period because my wife decided that this was the best day ever to break her phone. I turned the radio on just as they said Bedard's goal was offsides but I hear it was a beauty. Maybe I will catch a replay of it. Boston/LA was a good game but I missed the end of overtime.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 18 @ 12:25 AM ET
Jared Tinordi is a Norris candidate (puke) can’t we just have Phillips play or some other young dman to get experience in the last 20 something games?
- bigfly46


He is the nuclear deterrent the head'd buddy and so he is in there.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Feb 18 @ 2:43 AM ET




Wow...I see that as almost a must to get me yet another forward, not taking the best player available...and Ric, you have Bedard leading us out of last place, and losing the lottery.

Id you are sure Zayne Parekh brings a dimension that is not in Korchinski wheel house,

- wiz1901


The concern for me is if they draft 4th there's a chance that if they don't take a Dman they are not taking the best available player. Indeed, they need forwards but if they see Parekh as a Karlsson type would they take him 4th?

Gun to my head Parekh will be a much better offensive NHLer than KK or Rinzel but those 2 ain't bad at all. Is it overkill to take Perekh when the Hawks need forwards and as mentioned they have KK and Rinzel in the system? Even if KD and Crew see the kid as an 80 pt Dman? ...... I do think Parekh will better offensively than all of the other Dmen in this class.

With the glut of high end Dmen available in the top 10 it won't surprise if the order in which they are drafted gets scrambled. IIRC Seider barely cracked the pre-draft top 10, if he even did, and Stevie Y took him 6th with Bowen Byram going 4th.

An FYI, I eliminated all Cossacks as possibilities of the Hawks draft, at least the 1st rd and like you I have it rated as Celibrini, Lindstrom, Eiserman as my top 3 forwards but also think Silayev goes in the top 3.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Feb 18 @ 2:50 AM ET
And also Wiz, or anyone, what player do you see maybe dropping to 11-12ish where KD might move up to get him? Catton, Parekh, Demidov?

As Benson was falling into the teens last yr, he went 13th, I thought maybe, just maybe KD would pull the trigger and move up for him. ... You see a scenario for that to happen this yr?
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:31 AM ET
And also Wiz, or anyone, what player do you see maybe dropping to 11-12ish where KD might move up to get him? Catton, Parekh, Demidov?

As Benson was falling into the teens last yr, he went 13th, I thought maybe, just maybe KD would pull the trigger and move up for him. ... You see a scenario for that to happen this yr?

- Mr Ricochet


We could try to dissect the various scenarios that KD has tucked away in his mind but in the end - how circumstances and player availability turns - we cannot be certain.


The players available to add either through draft or trade is a guessing game. Any GM may be interested in a certain player and so what can be done is to construct various possibilities. A prospect or NHL player of interest - there could be many - so just keep a tab on how they perform and whether in one or three years he still likes them enough to inquire or select with draft choice

It never hurts to dream. Often a prospect or a player never becomes available. But you never know for sure until many years pass and usually nothing happens, nothing comes to fruition

Last draft for example what if someone had chosen Moore right before our turn, yet Detroit had choosen someone else and not Danielson? Then Danielson slipped down and was available

Right now the prospect ratings are topsy turvy and I personally won’t fall in love with a prospect until I see the final ratings (wiz ratings particularly). Just to illustrate here could be the rise and fall and even rise again of Lindstrom. Last year he was not considered a top five pick

I have pegged Celebrini and Eiserman but am uncertain the order I would rank the oth r prospects - too early to know for sure as far as ai can imagine at this time (February).

Now I just want to make up one example of an NHL player itregardless whether KD is interested. I will name a player who could fill several roles, get some points, is at mid level in his career and would be a versatile productive player in probably a L2 role but again is versatile to move around

Perhaps he is available if his parent team has to lop off someone because they have gone after a free agent or made a trade…..so now they are over the cap

Again this is hypothetical and just annillustration

I use our next opponent and a player on their team to illustrate

Kokomo and J Stahl could be used in a scoring role rotating er from L3 to L2 and therefore move Teravainen contract.

The only hitch which is not a hitch up in KD strategy, is that he may want to really go far with prospects to the point of not only they make the NHL roster, but after a couple years in The Show what role might they wind up in? Perhaps a role Teravsinen fills? So KD may like Teravainen but turns out he finds someone else internally to fill the
role.

I get it that you want to know what players wiz currently likes or tentatively bouts in a certain spot in ranking

But like any number of hypothetical scenarios we are just getting way to obsessed too early

We await final prospect ranking, right up to and during The Entry Draft trades occur and then at the last minute we see the prospects we like and see also whether we have a shot to select them

Actually both Moore and Teravainen represent prospects who might have been selected earlier whereas Rinzell was not on the radar to be drafted so early
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Feb 18 @ 9:32 AM ET
I don’t have the fancies and I’m not a big Crevier fan, but in my opinion he has played well the last two games. If he can become a steady, reliable bottom pair Dman for the Hawks, that’s a huge win.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:49 AM ET
I don’t have the fancies and I’m not a big Crevier fan, but in my opinion he has played well the last two games. If he can become a steady, reliable bottom pair Dman for the Hawks, that’s a huge win.
- Angotti

As I have pointed out I like some attributes he brings and other parts in his game might improve. He could become a well balanced third pair and he may one day even be someone to consider in a shutdown role. He needs to keep improving and he learns and applies at the NHL level is a plus over AHL level. But you have to be careful not to overwhelm a prospect with really crappy linematte or dman pair. I don’t know that Crevier with Tinordi is ideal but once Murphy returns maybe Megda or Tinordi sits and Crevier remains in line up? Conversely they could be rotated in and out of lineup

Phillips just too many hiccups and not playing smart enough. It could be that Phillips could turn it around but when. - next year after going back to AHL then upon recall he gets it how to play better?!

Crevier has moved ah as of Phillips and Kaiser but who knows how each of them might fit by this time next season
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:56 AM ET
Richardson got tough yesterday. After showing lots of patience he sat Korbustsky for the last half of the second period for making an ill advised offensive foray, when the Sens had possession of the puck. To be fair KK had been making better decisions lately after a stretch of 10 or 12 games where he was constantly making bad decisions and taking himself out of defensive position. I really like how Richardson got tough but immediately had Korchinski back out in the third. Hopefully not only Korchinski learned from the benching, that was a message for all the rookies that Richardson wants them to play smarter. There’s been some criticism of Richardson but I really like the way he’s getting the most out of a rag tag lineup but in how he has handled the kids.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:09 AM ET
Richardson got tough yesterday. After showing lots of patience he sat Korbustsky for the last half of the second period for making an ill advised offensive foray, when the Sens had possession of the puck. To be fair KK had been making better decisions lately after a stretch of 10 or 12 games where he was constantly making bad decisions and taking himself out of defensive position. I really like how Richardson got tough but immediately had Korchinski back out in the third. Hopefully not only Korchinski learned from the benching, that was a message for all the rookies that Richardson wants them to play smarter. There’s been some criticism of Richardson but I really like the way he’s getting the most out of a rag tag lineup but in how he has handled the kids.
- paulr


Well said.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 18 @ 11:34 AM ET
The concern for me is if they draft 4th there's a chance that if they don't take a Dman they are not taking the best available player. Indeed, they need forwards but if they see Parekh as a Karlsson type would they take him 4th?

Gun to my head Parekh will be a much better offensive NHLer than KK or Rinzel but those 2 ain't bad at all. Is it overkill to take Perekh when the Hawks need forwards and as mentioned they have KK and Rinzel in the system? Even if KD and Crew see the kid as an 80 pt Dman? ...... I do think Parekh will better offensively than all of the other Dmen in this class.

With the glut of high end Dmen available in the top 10 it won't surprise if the order in which they are drafted gets scrambled. IIRC Seider barely cracked the pre-draft top 10, if he even did, and Stevie Y took him 6th with Bowen Byram going 4th.

An FYI, I eliminated all Cossacks as possibilities of the Hawks draft, at least the 1st rd and like you I have it rated as Celibrini, Lindstrom, Eiserman as my top 3 forwards but also think Silayev goes in the top 3.

- Mr Ricochet


Celebrini would be a nice player to have, but thinking ahead, the odds are small that the Hawks would have the 1st overall pick. With that being said, if they select 2-4 there is no consensus pick at those spots since the rankings are over the place. However there should be a good player out there. Pessimstically at #4, even if KD stays away from the Russians, and if Eiserman and Lindstrom are gone Leyshunov at RD would be a a good add. If one of the top rated D goes 2 or 3, one of the aforementioned forwards will be available.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Feb 18 @ 11:41 AM ET
Richardson got tough yesterday. After showing lots of patience he sat Korbustsky for the last half of the second period for making an ill advised offensive foray, when the Sens had possession of the puck. To be fair KK had been making better decisions lately after a stretch of 10 or 12 games where he was constantly making bad decisions and taking himself out of defensive position. I really like how Richardson got tough but immediately had Korchinski back out in the third. Hopefully not only Korchinski learned from the benching, that was a message for all the rookies that Richardson wants them to play smarter. There’s been some criticism of Richardson but I really like the way he’s getting the most out of a rag tag lineup but in how he has handled the kids.
- paulr


Here's a quote from Richardson on the play that lead to KK's benching.

https://twitter.com/BenPo...99396?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 18 @ 11:49 AM ET
I know he's young and learning defensively, but it's pretty cool that we have a kid on this team that makes forwards on his line better in the offensive zone and on the scoreboard. With this rag tag group he's just picked up where he left off.

They talked about his shot but his poise, processing ability, passing ability is off the charts, top line is in great hands hopefully for many years to come.

That's why i do believe best available when it comes to the draft, because Bedard gives you flexibility. Sure you want better linemates for him but at the same time it's not that much of a concern because he makes the players around him better.

So no need to have tunnel vision at the draft. I don't get the crowd that's worried that Bedard won't be sticking around, i see the opposite.

My hope is and it sounds like people outside the org are very very complimentary about how the org approaches and treats everything now. Hopefully we see more college FAs sign with us.
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