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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:10 AM ET
Well it's definitely not going to be Kyrou
- eichiefs9

JGP?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 6 @ 9:17 AM ET
JGP?
- Vukota

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

After the last few games, Palmieri might have some good value. But also Pageau is a center and there aren't many of those available. But his contract is less than desirable going forward.

I'll say it again: Pageau's cap hit ($5M) + Aho's cap hit ($825k) = Adam Henrique's cap hit of $5.825M and Henrique is a former Devil. Palmieri has the same cap hit as Pageau, but that one wouldn't really make sense. Isles could also swap Wahlstrom with Aho and the money would work.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:24 AM ET
Im Assuming that like myself he's in the buffalo market and all isles games are blacked out if the sabrs are home. The center ice stops that so you can hear the home broadcast
- Upstate_isles



Yeah I’m not sure I don’t think if the Sabres are home the isles would be blacked out on ESPN+. The only time the isles aren’t available to ESPN+ is when it’s a national broadcast. Although I could be wrong
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:26 AM ET
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

After the last few games, Palmieri might have some good value. But also Pageau is a center and there aren't many of those available. But his contract is less than desirable going forward.

I'll say it again: Pageau's cap hit ($5M) + Aho's cap hit ($825k) = Adam Henrique's cap hit of $5.825M and Henrique is a former Devil. Palmieri has the same cap hit as Pageau, but that one wouldn't really make sense. Isles could also swap Wahlstrom with Aho and the money would work.

- eichiefs9


Doesn’t having Mayfield on LTIR free up 3 mill in cap space? I don’t see Lou moving anyone of importance as they’re gaining steam for whatever the reason (Mayfield out the last 4 wins in a row🤷🏻‍♂️).
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 6 @ 9:30 AM ET
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

After the last few games, Palmieri might have some good value. But also Pageau is a center and there aren't many of those available. But his contract is less than desirable going forward.

I'll say it again: Pageau's cap hit ($5M) + Aho's cap hit ($825k) = Adam Henrique's cap hit of $5.825M and Henrique is a former Devil. Palmieri has the same cap hit as Pageau, but that one wouldn't really make sense. Isles could also swap Wahlstrom with Aho and the money would work.

- eichiefs9


This would make sense for the Islanders and moving on from JGP contract.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:37 AM ET
This would make sense for the Islanders and moving on from JGP contract.
- ses111


I just don’t see Lou trading Pageau given his recent statement about definitely not selling. Right or wrong, Lou feels anyone who gets in can make a run. Isles are in the running for a spot, ESPECIALLY if they continue playing like this. Last nights game had all the markings of the ECF roster…..down 0-2, tied it, took the lead and held said lead. They were dominant at times on the forecheck.
Read something about the isles possibly looking at Eberle as well 🤷🏻‍♂️
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 6 @ 9:39 AM ET
Doesn’t having Mayfield on LTIR free up 3 mill in cap space? I don’t see Lou moving anyone of importance as they’re gaining steam for whatever the reason (Mayfield out the last 4 wins in a row🤷🏻‍♂️).
- kindlyrick

Not really. It does until he gets back, unless he is going to miss the rest of the regular season and wouldn't be healthy until the playoffs. And the league is much more thorough in checking the medicals after the horseshit Tampa pulled with Kucherov in one of their Cup seasons.

So if Mayfield is able to return before the regular season ends, the Isles could be in a bit of a pickle as far as having to waive someone to make cap space to fit everything in.

Also Bortuzzo and his $950k is going to come off any day now, so that $3.5M in LTIR overage from Mayfield becomes more like $2.5M.

Going off CapFriendly, the Isles have $2,487,500 available in full-year cap hit space.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 6 @ 9:41 AM ET
I just don’t see Lou trading Pageau given his recent statement about definitely not selling. Right or wrong, Lou feels anyone who gets in can make a run. Isles are in the running for a spot, ESPECIALLY if they continue playing like this. Last nights game had all the markings of the ECF roster…..down 0-2, tied it, took the lead and held said lead. They were dominant at times on the forecheck.
Read something about the isles possibly looking at Eberle as well 🤷🏻‍♂️

- kindlyrick


This would not really be selling as the Islanders would be getting a player that could help them now. Eberle would be interesting. They seems set with Barzal and Palms as RW’s though.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 6 @ 9:42 AM ET
This would not really be selling as the Islanders would be getting a player that could help them now. Eberle would be interesting. They seems set with Barzal and Palms as RW’s though.
- ses111

If the Isles are trading Pageau they absolutely have to be replacing him with a center. Otherwise they're going to have to pull Nelson off the Barzal/Horvat line.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:42 AM ET
Not really. It does until he gets back, unless he is going to miss the rest of the regular season and wouldn't be healthy until the playoffs. And the league is much more thorough in checking the medicals after the horseshit Tampa pulled with Kucherov in one of their Cup seasons.

So if Mayfield is able to return before the regular season ends, the Isles could be in a bit of a pickle as far as having to waive someone to make cap space to fit everything in.

- eichiefs9



Wanna bet the isles “opt for surgery” on Mayfield? I have zero proof, but I truly believe his injury is being looked at because of his poor play. 4 wins in a row without him, and he might need surgery. Yes my tinfoil hat is on.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:43 AM ET
If the Isles are trading Pageau they absolutely have to be replacing him with a center. Otherwise they're going to have to pull Nelson off the Barzal/Horvat line.
- eichiefs9


Why wasn’t Nelson on that line all along? Pretty legit first line with Nelson rounding it out.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:45 AM ET
This would not really be selling as the Islanders would be getting a player that could help them now. Eberle would be interesting. They seems set with Barzal and Palms as RW’s though.
- ses111


Yeah I see more of Adam Henrique anyway, as Lou drafted him and he loves his former Devils.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 6 @ 9:45 AM ET
Why wasn’t Nelson on that line all along? Pretty legit first line with Nelson rounding it out.
- kindlyrick


Because Patrick understands offense is needed as well and you do not need to be locked into the same lines. Trying to win every game 2-1 is very difficult. Patrick does not coach scared and the players really seem to respond.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 6 @ 9:46 AM ET
Yeah I’m not sure I don’t think if the Sabres are home the isles would be blacked out on ESPN+. The only time the isles aren’t available to ESPN+ is when it’s a national broadcast. Although I could be wrong
- kindlyrick

Correct if you buy espn+ but directly and cable they are
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 6 @ 9:46 AM ET
If the Isles are trading Pageau they absolutely have to be replacing him with a center. Otherwise they're going to have to pull Nelson off the Barzal/Horvat line.
- eichiefs9


I agree. Adam is a center I believe.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 6 @ 9:48 AM ET
Not really. It does until he gets back, unless he is going to miss the rest of the regular season and wouldn't be healthy until the playoffs. And the league is much more thorough in checking the medicals after the horseshit Tampa pulled with Kucherov in one of their Cup seasons.

So if Mayfield is able to return before the regular season ends, the Isles could be in a bit of a pickle as far as having to waive someone to make cap space to fit everything in.

Also Bortuzzo and his $950k is going to come off any day now, so that $3.5M in LTIR overage from Mayfield becomes more like $2.5M.

Going off CapFriendly, the Isles have $2,487,500 available in full-year cap hit space.

- eichiefs9

Are they? Vegas did it last year and are well on their way to doing so again with Stone on ltir
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:50 AM ET
Are they? Vegas did it last year and are well on their way to doing so again with Stone on ltir
- Upstate_isles


Whatever anyone says about Lou positive or negative, he’s an active GM. I think the LTIR for mayfield leading up to the trade deadline is the impetus for him to pull the trigger on something.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 6 @ 9:52 AM ET
Whatever anyone says about Lou positive or negative, he’s an active GM. I think the LTIR for mayfield leading up to the trade deadline is the impetus for him to pull the trigger on something.
- kindlyrick

Yea and I think thay will be a forward. If aho can't handle it bortuzzo is a big guy like Mayfield so I think d is set
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 9:55 AM ET
Yea and I think thay will be a forward. If aho can't handle it bortuzzo is a big guy like Mayfield so I think d is set
- Upstate_isles


I think Adam Henrique checks all the boxes being that hes a veteran who can play both PK and PP.


Sidenote I’ve really liked how Reilly and Maclean have been playing
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 6 @ 9:56 AM ET
Wanna bet the isles “opt for surgery” on Mayfield? I have zero proof, but I truly believe his injury is being looked at because of his poor play. 4 wins in a row without him, and he might need surgery. Yes my tinfoil hat is on.
- kindlyrick

It's certainly possible. It gives them more flexibility moving forward and it keeps him out of the lineup. Odd how he's out of the lineup and then they go on a 4 game winning streak.

With a guarantee that he'll miss the rest of the regular season, they could hypothetically make an even-money deal involving Pageau + whatever and then do something else minor.

Not saying I'd do this, want Lou to do this, or that I think it will happen...but numbers-wise they could do something like Pageau+Wahlstrom+whatever for Henrique and then turn around and do something like Aho+whatever for Duclair.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 6 @ 9:59 AM ET
Are they? Vegas did it last year and are well on their way to doing so again with Stone on ltir
- Upstate_isles

They were scrutinized pretty heavily last year.

This year, and I can speak from personal experience on this one, Stone has a lacerated spleen and internal bleeding. I had the same injury a long time ago and that poop is no joke. I lost around 40% of my blood and went into shock and couldn't do a god damn thing for an entire summer for risk of reinjuring it and was on iron pills for a full year to rebuild my red blood cell count.

They were able to save mine and I'm not sure whether or not his was kept or just removed, but if he still has his spleen then he's going to legitimately need some time to heal.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Mar 6 @ 10:00 AM ET
I think Adam Henrique checks all the boxes being that hes a veteran who can play both PK and PP.


Sidenote I’ve really liked how Reilly and Maclean have been playing

- kindlyrick

Agree on both
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Mar 6 @ 10:33 AM ET
It's certainly possible. It gives them more flexibility moving forward and it keeps him out of the lineup. Odd how he's out of the lineup and then they go on a 4 game winning streak.

With a guarantee that he'll miss the rest of the regular season, they could hypothetically make an even-money deal involving Pageau + whatever and then do something else minor.

Not saying I'd do this, want Lou to do this, or that I think it will happen...but numbers-wise they could do something like Pageau+Wahlstrom+whatever for Henrique and then turn around and do something like Aho+whatever for Duclair.

- eichiefs9


I agree that Henrique is the top target, I’m just not sure Pageau goes the other way. I do know that Lou is showing all signs to add.
Duclair is an interesting choice. He can snipe
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Mar 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
I have ESPN plus and center ice. I live in CT and MSG is not allowed on my cable system. So far I have seen every game the last 2 years. Unfortunately when they play the Bruins or Rags I have to watch their feeds. That's what I had to do because of cable. It's sad.
Also I think Lou will add . The only subtraction will be picks and prospects.
Unless he goes big game fishing for a big contract and has to move out a contract. Which will be difficult because of all the NTCs.
Also maybe Mayfield is hurt and that is the reason he played like crap so far this year. We kind of have to hope for this being that he will be here for a long time.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 6 @ 10:43 AM ET
I agree that Henrique is the top target, I’m just not sure Pageau goes the other way. I do know that Lou is showing all signs to add.
Duclair is an interesting choice. He can snipe

- kindlyrick

If he is going to trade for Henrique he's gotta send at least approx $3.3M+ in salary back the other way. Not a lot of options for doing that. Cizikas has no trade protection and would just about cover most of that amount but a) I don't see why the Ducks would want him and b) I'd be very surprised to see Lou move him. Someone like Wahlstrom would have to go to cover the rest.

The Isles don't have the assets to get ANA to retain significant salary on him though.

I honestly don't see it happening, I think someone on a cheap deal that wouldn't cost them a first rounder (like Duclair) would be a more realistic outcome
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