Ugh, Greenway is so much more than a 4th liner and Benson should have stayed in jr.
- Buffalo--Sabres

You just listed a bunch of off-ice and practice things. Stuff we don't see. Every story I've heard has Dahlin as their hardest worker in practice and the guy who tries to set the standard.
- Lunaion

Yes, he has a reputation by leadering through example... That is terrific! There are reports he does this going back to when he was drafted.

It is also lacking in enforcing the standard upon others who are contributing less than their best. Does he have it in him to be a wiener as necessary?

You are right, we don't know as we are outsiders. Yet, where is this leadership to do so now? I haven't heard one word that he does this ... Kinda the same thing with Okposo back several years ago... Where was his leadership when Euchel was dividing the team? Do we expect Dahlin to suddenly "turn it on"?

Yes, he has a reputation by leadering through example... That is terrific! There are reports he does this going back to when he was drafted.

It is also lacking in enforcing the standard upon others who are contributing less than their best. Does he have it in him to be a wiener as necessary?

You are right, we don't know as we are outsiders. Yet, where is this leadership to do so now? I haven't heard one word that he does this ... Kinda the same thing with Okposo back several years ago... Where was his leadership when Euchel was dividing the team? Do we expect Dahlin to suddenly "turn it on"?
- IonSabres

Isn't he the one to get Mittelstadt to put down the controller and pick up some dumbbells? Thats a pretty good start when youre as young as he was/is. Tough to learn to be a great leader from the likes of Zemgus Girgensosns and Kyle Okposo.

Isn't he the one to get Mittelstadt to put down the controller and pick up some dumbbells? Thats a pretty good start when youre as young as he was/is. Tough to learn to be a great leader from the likes of Zemgus Girgensosns and Kyle Okposo.
- DirtyDan

So how about they go get the friggin guy they need to wear the C properly, and have Dahlin wear the A for a couple years to be part of that cultural revolution. He can then take the baton at that point.

So how about they go get the friggin guy they need to wear the C properly, and have Dahlin wear the A for a couple years to be part of that cultural revolution. He can then take the baton at that point.
- IonSabres

So, resign Okposo you think?
😎

Hopefully,

This is what the lines look like

Quinn/Tage/ Tuch
Quinn/Cozens/ JJ
Benson/Krebs/Quinn
Greenway/ Girgs/ Quinn
- lulags

This looks more even, but I see where you're coming from.

the race to 9th begins tonight
- homiedclown

I think a leadership group of Dahlin, Tuch, Cozens is more than ok. It’s not their fault they don’t have competent comrades to lead.

Get a coaching staff who isn’t completely useless and continue to fill out the roster and we are ok.

The Byram trade is a good start, but more work to be done.

Greenway is absolutely a 4th liner. You’ve been blinded by the lack of talent and depth on this team for years.
Greenway on any competitive, playoff bound team is a 4th liner.
The sooner the management accepts this, the sooner we can move on with constructing a real team
- lulags

To be fair, he could probably play 3rd line and be serviceable. It's this blind insistence that he's a top6 forward that's disconcerting.

So, resign Okposo you think?
😎
- lulags

Don't you put that evil on us Ricky Bobby!

So how about they go get the friggin guy they need to wear the C properly, and have Dahlin wear the A for a couple years to be part of that cultural revolution. He can then take the baton at that point.
- IonSabres

Very Good Post! Tuch might be the only one ready.

So how about they go get the friggin guy they need to wear the C properly, and have Dahlin wear the A for a couple years to be part of that cultural revolution. He can then take the baton at that point.
- IonSabres

Inserting a stopgap captain at this point isn't going to do anything. This should have been Dahlin's team 2 years ago. He's been in this league for six years. Give it to him and let him run with it. He probably won't be able to implement that MacKinnon-level of discipline because he doesn't have the pelts on the wall MacKinnon does, but he can start to make it "his team".

I think a leadership group of Dahlin, Tuch, Cozens is more than ok. It’s not their fault they don’t have competent comrades to lead.

Get a coaching staff who isn’t completely useless and continue to fill out the roster and we are ok.

The Byram trade is a good start, but more work to be done.
- Swedish_Jesus

It's all good above, but the Captaincy aspect. They need a true leader, and it can be a teaching moment. But their history, is to hope coaches, GM and layers can find the way themselves... Doesn't seem like it is working well right?

Inserting a stopgap captain at this point isn't going to do anything. This should have been Dahlin's team 2 years ago. He's been in this league for six years. Give it to him and let him run with it. He probably won't be able to implement that MacKinnon-level of discipline because he doesn't have the pelts on the wall MacKinnon does, but he can start to make it "his team".
- buffalofan19

Why ? Other than training hard, which every player already see's. What has Dahlin learned that he can take and turn this Team around. Who has taught him, who and what has he watched and learned from ?

It's all good above, but the Captaincy aspect. They need a true leader, and it can be a teaching moment. But their history, is to hope coaches, GM and layers can find the way themselves... Doesn't seem like it is working well right?
- IonSabres

While the anecdote about MacKinnon's "team rules" makes for great entertainment, the team didn't win the Cup when he was the captain. Gabriel Landeskog had the "C", and was given it very early in his career. Either you can lead or you can't. It's time to find out if Dahlin can.

Why ? Other than training hard, which every player already see's. What has Dahlin learned that he can take and turn this Team around. Who has taught him, who and what has he watched and learned from ?
- Buff36

See above.

I think a leadership group of Dahlin, Tuch, Cozens is more than ok. It’s not their fault they don’t have competent comrades to lead.

Get a coaching staff who isn’t completely useless and continue to fill out the roster and we are ok.

The Byram trade is a good start, but more work to be done.
- Swedish_Jesus

I think Cozens needs to focus on getting points before we make him a leader on the team

41 points is pathetic this late in the season

Inserting a stopgap captain at this point isn't going to do anything. This should have been Dahlin's team 2 years ago. He's been in this league for six years. Give it to him and let him run with it. He probably won't be able to implement that MacKinnon-level of discipline because he doesn't have the pelts on the wall MacKinnon does, but he can start to make it "his team".
- buffalofan19

I agree. C's are overrated. They seem to have some good young leaders. If KA puts a little better team on the ice the last 2 years, we're touting that.

Greenway is absolutely a 4th liner. You’ve been blinded by the lack of talent and depth on this team for years.
Greenway on any competitive, playoff bound team is a 4th liner.
The sooner the management accepts this, the sooner we can move on with constructing a real team
- lulags

Fair enough

I agree. C's are overrated. They seem to have some good young leaders. If KA puts a little better team on the ice the last 2 years, we're touting that.
- Lunaion

If they were such good Leaders, this TEAM wouldn't quit as much as it has.

Very Good Post! Tuch might be the only one ready.
- Buff36

trade for blake coleman and david savard

If they were such good Leaders, this TEAM wouldn't quit as much as it has.
- Buff36

They have their issues, but quit? Really haven't seen that. I saw more of that last year.

If they were such good Leaders, this TEAM wouldn't quit as much as it has.
- Buff36

100%

Dahlin has great work out habits....sick, the Sabres still fail.

You can't put a guy who spent his entire professional career in the toxic losing environment that is the Sabres, make him captain and expect change next season.

He is too dumb to make the dramatic changes needed. Maximizing Dahlin's on ice performance should be the focus...that's on the GM and coach if the guy works out as hard as you people say he does.

Leadership is only 1 of the many massive holes in this organization with no plans to properly fill.

I agree. C's are overrated. They seem to have some good young leaders. If KA puts a little better team on the ice the last 2 years, we're touting that.
- Lunaion

They are and they aren't. They are in the fact that even if you give "the right guy" the captaincy, it's not going to inherently fix all your problems. They're not in the fact that the giving the captaincy to a guy sends the message to the rest of your team that this is the guy you want to emulate. That was why giving it to Okposo was utter lunacy. The guy's career was the complete opposite of what represented a championship team.

They have their issues, but quit? Really haven't seen that. I saw more of that last year.
- Lunaion

Edmonton 3rd period