Say it is scheduled for 2026. Why can’t they play next season?
- Dkos

do you see any nhl team providing them an opportunity to play while this is going on?

This is a RANT!! I would like you to be warned and also I'm so POed I would like to wreck FRONTIER AIRLINES.
This is my equivalent to a PSA.
RANT ALERT!!! RANT ALERT!!!!
Yesterday I left my home at 9:00 AM to go to the Tampa Airport. I had packed my bags the day before in order to be at the terminal by 11:58 AM. I had purchased a flight from Frontier Airlines and at the time of that purchase, a week prior, they never mentioned a seat assignment.
Arriving at the airport I went to the Frontier desk and requested a boarding pass, which I paid for with an added priority boarding (all at extra cost). No mention was made of a need for a seat there while paying for the privilege of early boarding.
I arrived at the boarding gate and a delay occurred due to a lack of staff. 1/2 hour went by and then we qued up. I was the second priority person. I was told I could not board as I had no seat assigned. There was an offer previously of a $300 voucher if you gave up your seat. I didn't want this as I was going to visit my sister, who is in the hospital.
They then offered a voucher for $250 for us to walk away. $50 less for being involuntarily shoved aside. Fair, eh?
I was not seduced by an offer from a PERFECTLY CORRUPT CORPSERATION. They do this deliberately by overbooking flights to ensure a full plane and to hell with those left behind. It's just the 'cost of doing business' in their corporate model.
I asked instead for a refund that I was told would take 5-7 days.
If I were more poor (I'm fortunately not.) how would I book another flight? They had no flights available for at least two days.
I was enraged and since the security in airports does not favor loud people, (I am one.). I walked away and figured I would return to the desk and ask for a manager.
What I learned is that all the managers were at the gates dealing with the BS they caused across all of their flights.
I waited an hour.
Since my bag had been loaded, I questioned as to what procedure would be followed to return it. I was informed by a clerk (incorrectly) that it was MY RESPONSIBILITY to get it back. More joy.
I did discover that the bag that was dropped in Philly would be on a return flight the next day and that I would be notified about delivery. The manager and the baggage folks at least knew what they were doing. They probably get a lot of practice with these situations.
I contacted my Credit Card company and told them I was contesting/disputing the cost of the fight and any added charges made by FRONTIER AIRLINES. I got immediate credit.
My return flight was to be on American which is a far more professional company and I took the economy fare as they would rectify any situation and I needed no further guarantees. (I could be wrong, it's happened before.)
Since I am not in Philly I lost that fare as American explicitly states NO REFUNDS are due in this circumstance.
I lost maybe $400 in fares and associated fees. I spent a full day not going further than my doorstep. Two hours on the road, tolls for the expressway, and a $14 parking charge later, my hair was afire and I had no one I could bite.
If you mention FRONTIER AIRLINES TO ME, I will slowly turn.....
- Pompous

I have been traveling for years and here's what i figured out,

When traveling from Philly north or west is use American airlines, when traveling in the south is it Southwest Airlines.

The issue with Tortorella expecting the Flyers to be different now is that there is no different available. He has had the team playing at playoff level intensity for the entire season. There is no more.
- MJL

This is one of the most remarkable notions I've ever seen on this board. How could one be so obtuse?

Just wow.

injuries always wreck them
- 2Real

Brindy must be driving them too hard.

This is one of the most remarkable notions I've ever seen on this board. How could one be so obtuse?

Just wow.
- Richard_wilderness

It's so obtuse that you couldn't reply with a single intelligent comment. Guys like you crack me up.

Say it is scheduled for 2026. Why can’t they play next season?
- Dkos

I doubt they can leave Canada if charged with a felony.

They are 32-31 under Brindamour. 5th most playoff wins in the league since 18-19.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...t=wins&page=0&pageSize=50
- Feanor

Have they made it to the Finals in that time? That's all anyone really remembers.

They are 32-31 under Brindamour. 5th most playoff wins in the league since 18-19.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...t=wins&page=0&pageSize=50
- Feanor

18-19: Lost in Round 3
19-20: Lost in Round 1
20-21: Lost in Round 2
21-22: Lost in Round 2
22-23: Lost in Round 3

Not exactly the Toronto Maple Leafs

I doubt they can leave Canada if charged with a felony.
- Briere

Good point.

How can what he looks like matter when you worship a tiny, white haired old man for his supposed toughness?
- Feanor

Well Torts is much more well known than that little geeky turd. I mean, I'm a hockey geek and I've never heard of him, so what does his opinion matter?

Who the phuck is Bryan Hayes and why would anyone care what he has to say? Looks like some nerdy powder puff geek.

- Phillywhiteout

Actually a lot of NHL folks respect him. That's why he's a mainstay on TSN doing shows w/ ex-NHL players.

Well Torts is much more well known than that little geeky turd. I mean, I'm a hockey geek and I've never heard of him, so what does his opinion matter?
- Phillywhiteout

That's more of a you problem than a Bryan Hayes problem.

do you see any nhl team providing them an opportunity to play while this is going on?
- hello it's me 2050

No. I’m just saying there’s no real reason why they can’t play other than the fact that no teams would touch them. They haven’t been found guilty of anything yet. As far as I know they are still being paid for the remainder of their contracts. It’s not like they’re in custody is it? Maybe they’re not allowed to leave the country? IDK?

I doubt they can leave Canada if charged with a felony.
- Briere

Was just wondering that

No. I’m just saying there’s no real reason why they can’t play other than the fact that no teams would touch them. They haven’t been found guilty of anything yet. As far as I know they are still being paid for the remainder of their contracts. It’s not like they’re in custody is it? Maybe they’re not allowed to leave the country? IDK?
- Dkos

Are they still getting paid? I don't know.

18-19: Lost in Round 3
19-20: Lost in Round 1
20-21: Lost in Round 2
21-22: Lost in Round 2
22-23: Lost in Round 3

Not exactly the Toronto Maple Leafs
- Tomahawk

Winning a cup is difficult to say the least. As a fan, I just want my team to be competing for one. Brin D'Amour has done that. The flyers are so far away from competing for cup it's depressing.
First up for. the Flyers is getting a front office and coach that understand the way the game is played now. aggressive offense , speed, and talent.

(just to be clear I'm agreeing with you on the canes )

It's so obtuse that you couldn't reply with a single intelligent comment. Guys like you crack me up.

- MJL

can you define what a guy like him is? be detailed cliff

No. I’m just saying there’s no real reason why they can’t play other than the fact that no teams would touch them. They haven’t been found guilty of anything yet. As far as I know they are still being paid for the remainder of their contracts. It’s not like they’re in custody is it? Maybe they’re not allowed to leave the country? IDK?
- Dkos

well the prosecution knowing no teams will touch the may want to drag it out. just an observation

Winning a cup is difficult to say the least. As a fan, I just want my team to be competing for one. Brin D'Amour has done that. The flyers are so far away from competing for cup it's depressing.
First up for. the Flyers is getting a front office and coach that understand the way the game is played now. aggressive offense , speed, and talent.

(just to be clear I'm agreeing with you on the canes )
- Briere

Yup.

He doesn't have the most talented bunch, never has the best goalies, yet they always seem to go deep because they play such an effective low-event style.

I'd say the Flyers should emulate Carolina but they really don't have to since they aren't working with the same budget and market constraints. The fact that they're not even close to the Canes despite having every advantage in the books is really sad and speaks to how badly they've been managed going back to the Clarke years.

Yup.

He doesn't have the most talented bunch, never has the best goalies, yet they always seem to go deep because they play such an effective low-event style.

I'd say the Flyers should emulate Carolina but they really don't have to since they aren't working with the same budget and market constraints. The fact that they're not even close to the Canes despite having every advantage in the books is really sad and speaks to how badly they've been managed going back to the Clarke years.
- Tomahawk

flyers are a poor run organization no argument here.it is sad.

Canes pretty much spend to the cap no? So no advantage for the flyers there. As far as what both spend on scouting, development, analytics that I have no idea. Are the flyers outspending the canes there? so not sure what other advantages the flyers have.

flyers are a poor run organization no argument here.it is sad.

Canes pretty much spend to the cap. So no advantage for the flyers there. As far as what both spend on scouting, development, analytics that I have no idea. Are the flyers outspending the canes there? so not sure what other advantages the flyers have.
- hello it's me 2050

Huge difference in amenities and facilities. Not just the arena but the practice facilities, training facilities, gym, team plane, catering, etc. Players can ask the team services folks for tickets to sold out shows, games, whatever and they'll get them. Flyers spare no expense and are famous for lavishing every perk and comfort on their players.

Probably only outdone by the Leafs and Rangers.

Canes have to cut every corner possible in order to stay out of the red.

And ofc there's Philly vs Raleigh.

Yup.

He doesn't have the most talented bunch, never has the best goalies, yet they always seem to go deep because they play such an effective low-event style.

I'd say the Flyers should emulate Carolina but they really don't have to since they aren't working with the same budget and market constraints. The fact that they're not even close to the Canes despite having every advantage in the books is really sad and speaks to how badly they've been managed going back to the Clarke years.
- Tomahawk

Such a load of crap pretending the hurricanes don’t have a talented group. Even more ammo this year with the adds at the deadline.

Huge difference in amenities and facilities. Not just the arena but the practice facilities, training facilities, gym, team plane, catering, etc. Players can ask the team services folks for tickets to sold out shows, games, whatever and they'll get them. Flyers spare no expense and are famous for lavishing every perk and comfort on their players.

Probably only outdone by the Leafs and Rangers.

Canes have to cut every corner possible in order to stay out of the red.

And ofc there's Philly vs Raleigh.
- Tomahawk

Canes currently sit 8.7M under the cap.

Huge difference in amenities and facilities. Not just the arena but the practice facilities, training facilities, gym, team plane, catering, etc. Players can ask the team services folks for tickets to sold out shows, games, whatever and they'll get them. Flyers spare no expense and are famous for lavishing every perk and comfort on their players.

Probably only outdone by the Leafs and Rangers.

Canes have to cut every corner possible in order to stay out of the red.

And ofc there's Philly vs Raleigh.
- Tomahawk

not being a wise ass though how do you know? the flyers practice rink isn't anything special at all. hell youth hockey uses it. it is a run of the mill rink. thier gym also nothing of note.

Not sure some of that other stuff really makes a significant diff in this day and age. Even so players are clearly staying away with all those perks.

philly and the area is a fn poophole. Don't know much about Raleigh but would take it over this cesspool area. As a plyer t me I want florida texas carolina. staying away from the detriots chicago philly ny of the world.

Canes currently sit 8.7M under the cap.
- MJL

CAROLINA HURRICANES
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
PROJECTED CAP HIT Tooltip : $82,887,542
PROJECTED LTIR USED Tooltip : $0
PROJECTED CAP SPACE Tooltip : $612,458
CURRENT CAP SPACE Tooltip : $7,839,462
TODAY'S CAP HIT Tooltip : $86,921,084

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PHILADELPHIA FLYERS
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
PROJECTED CAP HIT Tooltip : $83,729,425
PROJECTED LTIR USED Tooltip : $996,156
PROJECTED CAP SPACE Tooltip : $766,731
CURRENT CAP SPACE Tooltip : $4,312,500
TODAY'S CAP HIT Tooltip : $89,398,512

as I said is that not close to the top? next tie post the entire thing cliff

not being a wise ass though how do you know? the flyers practice rink isn't anything special at all. hell youth hockey uses it. it is a run of the mill rink. thier gym also nothing of note.

Not sure some of that other stuff really makes a significant diff in this day and age. Even so players are clearly staying away with all those perks.

philly and the area is a fn poophole. Don't know much about Raleigh but would take it over this cesspool area. As a plyer t me I want florida texas carolina. staying away from the detriots chicago philly ny of the world.
- hello it's me 2050

It felt good for him to write. In reality it means next to nothing. Certainly no on ice advantage.