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123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jun 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
I have a question for everyone. If we were able to land Jonathan Huberdeau, Pierre-Luc Dubois, and Patrik Laine at retained cap hits. While ridding us of Reilly Smith and Ryan Graves this offseason and still having cap space to sign free agents and not giving up our top prospect Yager or a 1st. Would you make the trades?

Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
I like Bob over 25.5 saves tonight.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
I like Bob over 25.5 saves tonight.
- Victoro311


Conn Smythe winner.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 15 @ 1:32 PM ET
I have a question for everyone. If we were able to land Jonathan Huberdeau, Pierre-Luc Dubois, and Patrik Laine at retained cap hits. While ridding us of Reilly Smith and Ryan Graves this offseason and still having cap space to sign free agents and not giving up our top prospect Yager or a 1st. Would you make the trades?
- 123Kid


Yes. Those 3 would upgrade the team.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 15 @ 1:34 PM ET
I like Bob over 25.5 saves tonight.
- Victoro311



Yeah, have to think the Oil are going to give all they have and toss a pile of rubber at Bob. There's no way they're winning 4 in a row, or even taking this to 7. So, I would just prefer this all be over tonight hahaha
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 15 @ 2:29 PM ET
Yeah, have to think the Oil are going to give all they have and toss a pile of rubber at Bob. There's no way they're winning 4 in a row, or even taking this to 7. So, I would just prefer this all be over tonight hahaha
- MattStrat

Yeah that’s my thought process. The Oilers are going to pile on chances. Even if Bob has a bad game I feel like he should pass 25.5 easy. I’m thinking mid to high 30s shots on goal by the oilers at home
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 15 @ 3:01 PM ET
Yeah, have to think the Oil are going to give all they have and toss a pile of rubber at Bob. There's no way they're winning 4 in a row, or even taking this to 7. So, I would just prefer this all be over tonight hahaha
- MattStrat


Yes. It's already over. Just finish it off and let the deals start rolling. I need something more interesting (NHL wise) than coaches getting recycled.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:02 PM ET
Yeah that’s my thought process. The Oilers are going to pile on chances. Even if Bob has a bad game I feel like he should pass 25.5 easy. I’m thinking mid to high 30s shots on goal by the oilers at home
- Victoro311

I’m a dunce
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 10:01 PM ET
I’m a dunce
- Victoro311


You were correct about the oilers part though
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 15 @ 10:02 PM ET
You were correct about the oilers part though
- 10inchTerror

Yeah if Bob were just slightly less bad and had a normal bad game rather than poopting himself and getting chased, I’d be swimming…

Need the Cats to only lose by four and hopefully Barkov to register a point to make up some of my losses
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 10:40 PM ET
Yeah if Bob were just slightly less bad and had a normal bad game rather than poopting himself and getting chased, I’d be swimming…

Need the Cats to only lose by four and hopefully Barkov to register a point to make up some of my losses

- Victoro311


Hopefully cbus bob only shows up for one game.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 15 @ 11:41 PM ET
Hopefully cbus bob only shows up for one game.
- 10inchTerror

I thought the Oilers would fight hard this game but man what a melt down by the Cats. If there’s anything that could spark a huge momentum swing and a reverse sweep, it’s that.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 16 @ 6:48 AM ET
I thought the Oilers would fight hard this game but man what a melt down by the Cats. If there’s anything that could spark a huge momentum swing and a reverse sweep, it’s that.
- Victoro311

I think the cats just want Edmonton to have that long ass flight after their loss.
MLew65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: hamburg, NY
Joined: 01.23.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:07 AM ET
Pittsburg needs too much to stay competitive. My prediction is the Pens sign Victor Olaffson from the Buffalo Sabres.

He gives you a sniper on the cheap so Pittsburg can afford to fill some holes.


He’ll be the next one to bash the Sabres on crappy coaching.

I expect Vicky rebounds once he picks up his defensive game.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 16 @ 2:51 PM ET
Pittsburg needs too much to stay competitive. My prediction is the Pens sign Victor Olaffson from the Buffalo Sabres.

He gives you a sniper on the cheap so Pittsburg can afford to fill some holes.


He’ll be the next one to bash the Sabres on crappy coaching.

I expect Vicky rebounds once he picks up his defensive game.

- MLew65

Isn’t he pretty old? Doubt he’ll all of a sudden become a 200 ft player
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 16 @ 5:07 PM ET
Isn’t he pretty old? Doubt he’ll all of a sudden become a 200 ft player
- Victoro311



Obviously we need more veteran presence and grit
coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Louisville, CO
Joined: 03.15.2007

Jun 16 @ 9:20 PM ET
Does anyone know how much Jake is going to actually get on the open market? Like it's gotta be some combination of:
1. team with cap space
2. but doesn't have to sign a large number of players
3. relatively consistent contender who can contend now

Seems like difficult math. With Laine at $8.7 million, what's Crosby going to think if Jake lands at $10 million flat somewhere else for long term?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 17 @ 12:10 AM ET
Does anyone know how much Jake is going to actually get on the open market? Like it's gotta be some combination of:
1. team with cap space
2. but doesn't have to sign a large number of players
3. relatively consistent contender who can contend now

Seems like difficult math. With Laine at $8.7 million, what's Crosby going to think if Jake lands at $10 million flat somewhere else for long term?

- coohill

The cap went up significantly and Jake is arguably the top UFA on the market. At 29, teams may think the first 4-5 years will still be in his prime. So circumstances are right for someone to offer a stupid deal if that's what he wants.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 17 @ 1:26 AM ET
The cap went up significantly and Jake is arguably the top UFA on the market. At 29, teams may think the first 4-5 years will still be in his prime. So circumstances are right for someone to offer a stupid deal if that's what he wants.
- Tojo.

Free agency is so unpredictable I would neither be shocked if he got a 5 year 8 mil deal nor a full max contract
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:42 AM ET
Isn’t he pretty old? Doubt he’ll all of a sudden become a 200 ft player
- Victoro311

Olofsson is like 27/28yo. He's at his peak age. He'd be a goos get for a 2nd/3rd line role.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:06 AM ET
Olofsson is like 27/28yo. He's at his peak age. He'd be a goos get for a 2nd/3rd line role.
- Barnaby36

He’s going to be 29 before the season starts. He’s passed the peak age. He’s only a good add if he can play a sheltered bottom 6 role and get some pp time.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:19 AM ET
He’s going to be 29 before the season starts. He’s passed the peak age. He’s only a good add if he can play a sheltered bottom 6 role and get some pp time.
- Feds91Stammer

Yep, 3rd line role is fine for him. We need bodies.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:40 AM ET
Yep, 3rd line role is fine for him. We need bodies.
- Barnaby36


We don't need bodies, we need goal scorers.
MickV
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Cambridge, MA
Joined: 07.03.2023

Jun 17 @ 9:46 AM ET
Jake is going to get paid. No doubt about it.

Laine is only interesting if CBJ is willing to retain a lot or take Graves. If so, then he could be great on the PP, though not sure where he'd fit in the forward lines.

How is it only Game 5 it's June 17?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:09 AM ET
Jake is going to get paid. No doubt about it.

Laine is only interesting if CBJ is willing to retain a lot or take Graves. If so, then he could be great on the PP, though not sure where he'd fit in the forward lines.

How is it only Game 5 it's June 17?

- MickV


At this point Laine would be 2RW or 3RW and 1PP. Probably 3RW to start.
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