I was thinking something similar.
- JohnScammo

I was just passing along the information.

If Nelson gets hurt or his numbers, go down. Every one of you mofos will be screaming that they should have traded Nelson when they had the chance. Now all we get is a 4th round pick or we stuck with another sh!t contract.

I get the idea of Nelson getting older etc, but for his price right now, is there a better player with production vs cost? He’s the isles best player….and I don’t think it’s even up for debate. Quietly he racks up pts year in and year out cheaply. Trading Nelson would have to be for a very good return the isles way.

All that said I don’t see Lou trading Brock Nelson.
- kindlyrick

Kenny Rogers once sang, you gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold'em. It is time to think past Nelson when you Horvat, Barzal, Sorokin entering their prime.

I was just passing along the information.

If Nelson gets hurt or his numbers, go down. Every one of you mofos will be screaming that they should have traded Nelson when they had the chance. Now all we get is a 4th round pick or we stuck with another sh!t contract.
- Nfdbulldawg

Not me.

Kenny Rogers once sang, you gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold'em. It is time to think past Nelson when you Horvat, Barzal, Sorokin entering their prime.
- Nfdbulldawg

Totally get it, he’s 32, but if he’s traded it has to replace his minutes/pts production.

Totally get it, he’s 32, but if he’s traded it has to replace his minutes/pts production.
- kindlyrick

Hoping to squeak into the first round, maybe, and win a game or two?

https://www.dailyfaceoff....s-the-trade-targets-board

#16 on Seravalli 30 players in play is JGP. Also, if the Rangers are shopping their captain, hopefully Lou is weighing all options on the Isles captain.

Hoping to squeak into the first round, maybe, and win a game or two?
- Cptmjl

Makes no sense. Team is not winning a Cup even with Nelson. Trade him now while his value is high. Team can use Bo and Barzal as centers and you re-tool around them and Dobson and Sorokin. For the fans wanting to keep Nelson, show me the path the Islanders have to be legit Cup contenders by keeping Nelson? If the team wants keep Nelson for now, that's fine. As long as Nelson is moved by the next deadline.

I was just passing along the information.

If Nelson gets hurt or his numbers, go down. Every one of you mofos will be screaming that they should have traded Nelson when they had the chance. Now all we get is a 4th round pick or we stuck with another sh!t contract.
- Nfdbulldawg

What information? It was just some guy's opinion.

Sure, if they're going into full rebuild mode, you can justify trading anyone on the roster. But if they're not giving up on the season before it even begins, then why trade the guy with the best shot on this offensively challenged team? Then you have the additional problem of replacing his goals. This writer wants a first round pick in a weak draft along with a prospect for Nelson. No thanks. Of course, if they're out of the playoff race by January, then trading Nelson begins to make sense. The writer even says the Isles would get a better return for Nelson at the trade deadline than now. (Not sure I agree, but that's what he said.)

Makes no sense. Team is not winning a Cup even with Nelson. Trade him now while his value is high. Team can use Bo and Barzal as centers and you re-tool around them and Dobson and Sorokin. For the fans wanting to keep Nelson, show me the path the Islanders have to be legit Cup contenders by keeping Nelson?
- ses111

What is the path to be legit Cup contenders by trading Nelson? What are you looking to get for him? Picks in a weak draft? Prospects?

As I said above, trade him at the deadline, if they're out of the playoff race.

What is the path to be legit Cup contenders by trading Nelson? What are you looking to get for him? Picks in a weak draft? Prospects?

As I said above, trade him at the deadline, if they're out of the playoff race.
- JohnScammo

There is no path to the Cup for this team John at all. This should be obvious by now. This team lost twice in a row to Canes in the 1st round is all of a sudden going to get it together this year? That Canes team was not close to right and the Islanders won 1 game. Get 2025 picks and prospects for Nelson then. Nelson needs to be traded regardless by next year even if the team is close or has a playoff spot. Unless this team is somehow at the top of the league and looking like a real threat.

There is no path to the Cup for this team John at all. This should be obvious by now. This team lost twice in a row to Canes is all of a sudden going to get it together this year? Get 2025 picks for Nelson then. Nelson needs to be traded regardless by next year even if the team is close or has a playoff spot. Unless this team is somehow at the top of the league and looking like a real threat.
- ses111

I think you're arguing in favor of a full rebuild. Okay, that's always an option, and you may as well listen to offers on everyone. If another team is willing to overpay for someone on the roster, why not?

I think you're arguing in favor of a full rebuild. Okay, that's always an option, and you may as well listen to offers on everyone. If another team is willing to overpay for someone on the roster, why not?
- JohnScammo

A full rebuild is trading Bo, Barzal, Dobson, and Sorkin. Trading Nelson and Palms is not a full rebuild. I just want a solid future for this team and a team that will be a legit threat. I do not want a middle team that has to work so hard just to make the playoffs, they are gassed by the time the playoffs start.

I get the idea of Nelson getting older etc, but for his price right now, is there a better player with production vs cost? He’s the isles best player….and I don’t think it’s even up for debate. Quietly he racks up pts year in and year out cheaply. Trading Nelson would have to be for a very good return the isles way.

All that said I don’t see Lou trading Brock Nelson.
- kindlyrick

I agree with all that 100%

I think when fans in general disagree on this subject it stems from where they see the organization as a whole. I think they're very much on a glidepath to being a lottery team and that they can accelerate the turnaround by trading their best all-around player who is going into his last season under contract for a large haul. Maybe that's now, maybe it's at the deadline. But after this season the value from his contract will be gone when he gets a big raise and starts his next deal at age 34. That's not a contract that will age well at all and I don't believe that (as currently constructed) the Islanders will be all that competitive next season. So for me, it's a no-brainer to move him when his value is at it's peak.

Realistically speaking, I would agree with you that I don't see Lou trading him either.

I agree with all that 100%

I think when fans in general disagree on this subject it stems from where they see the organization as a whole. I think they're very much on a glidepath to being a lottery team and that they can accelerate the turnaround by trading their best all-around player who is going into his last season under contract for a large haul. Maybe that's now, maybe it's at the deadline. But after this season the value from his contract will be gone when he gets a big raise and starts his next deal at age 34. That's not a contract that will age well at all and I don't believe that (as currently constructed) the Islanders will be all that competitive next season. So for me, it's a no-brainer to move him when his value is at it's peak.

Realistically speaking, I would agree with you that I don't see Lou trading him either.
- eichiefs9

It's not about Nelson not being a good player or being easy to replace. This team lost twice in the 1st round to the Canes and for this last series, the Canes were not even at their best and the Islanders won 1 game. it's about the Islanders not being good enough and it makes no sense to limp around with this same roster year after year.

Jets seeking first or second and third....
for Rutgers McGroarty....Want to make the trade in the next 36 hours

I would do it. Give them a second and third.
- Nfdbulldawg

Is there a source for this?

I'd easily give them a 2nd and a 3rd for him. If they found a way to acquire him and keep their 1st rounder that would be a massive victory for Lamoriello.

They would probably need to speak to McGroarty first and make sure he signs this year though because if he doesn't and he walks as a college UFA that would be pretty terrible.

Is there a source for this?

I'd easily give them a 2nd and a 3rd for him. If they found a way to acquire him and keep their 1st rounder that would be a massive victory for Lamoriello.

They would probably need to speak to McGroarty first and make sure he signs this year though because if he doesn't and he walks as a college UFA that would be pretty terrible.
- eichiefs9

I think the source was EK. The Rangers better not get him. Let him go elsewhere if the Islanders do not get him.

I think the source was EK.
- ses111

Oh, lame.

Well either way, if they can work something out for him I would be very happy. Trading our 1st for him (again, assuming he's willing to sign immediately) would be similar, even better really, than the Romanov trade. He's very young and just about ready to step into the NHL. You're using your top pick for a prospect that you can essentially hit the fast forward button on which is a perfectly good use of that in my book.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....s-the-trade-targets-board

If his could be a short-term replacement for Martin and be had cheap, I'd be all over this. Worst case he's one-and-done with the Isles. Best case, he regains some of his form he had with Nashville and the Isles get him for a bargain price.

Oh, lame.

Well either way, if they can work something out for him I would be very happy. Trading our 1st for him (again, assuming he's willing to sign immediately) would be similar, even better really, than the Romanov trade. He's very young and just about ready to step into the NHL. You're using your top pick for a prospect that you can essentially hit the fast forward button on which is a perfectly good use of that in my book.
- eichiefs9

No issue using the #1 pick for this type of trade. I'm not trading the #1 pick for an older type player.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....s-the-trade-targets-board

If his could be a short-term replacement for Martin and be had cheap, I'd be all over this. Worst case he's one-and-done with the Isles. Best case, he regains some of his form he had with Nashville and the Isles get him for a bargain price.
- eichiefs9

I'd rather use internal options if possible.

I'd rather use internal options if possible.
- ses111

Don't think there are any, at least not to fill that type of role. Can't imagine he'd cost very much after a bad year and on a team that needs to clear cap space. If they took a 6th or 7th round pick it would be good value. Especially if he has a reasonably good season and they can flip him at the deadline for a 2nd/3rd or something, if they're not in the playoff hunt

Don't think there are any, at least not to fill that type of role. Can't imagine he'd cost very much after a bad year and on a team that needs to clear cap space. If they took a 6th or 7th round pick it would be good value. Especially if he has a reasonably good season and they can flip him at the deadline for a 2nd/3rd or something, if they're not in the playoff hunt
- eichiefs9

Would the Cap work for the Islanders?

Would the Cap work for the Islanders?
- ses111

I can't even speculate on the cap at this point. Something's gonna have to give somewhere so in a week or two we'll have a better idea I guess.

I can't even speculate on the cap at this point. Something's gonna have to give somewhere so in a week or two we'll have a better idea I guess.
- eichiefs9

JGP seems to be one player Lou might be willing to move.

JGP seems to be one player Lou might be willing to move.
- ses111

They're going to have a real tough time moving him without either retaining money or adding a sweetener. He's got plenty of game left but he's not going to be worth what he gets paid/his AAV

edit: and that's all before you take into account he can decline a trade to more than half the league