Trox88
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Your playoffs hinge on TK and Sanheim…I got news for you, neither player is getting any better. This is it. Unless this team gets some actual players, they aren’t making anything. These young guys outside of Michkov have been extremely disappointing. Frost, a former first rounder is just about worthless. - ClaudeFather
That's the exact point. The organization has identified both as part of the core. Of course, more is needed. Since both are at their ceiling now, it makes more sense to add talent sooner then later. Just drafting and developing will take too long to maximize the ceilings of TK and Sanheim.
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Dkos
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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Some quick thoughts. In 1975, there were 32 NHL and WHA teams. Europe was negligible as a prospect pool and the USSR was shut off. 32 pro teams drew talent from a pool of 239 million people, US and Canada combined. In reality this number was much lower because once you got towards the South, the infrastructure for growing hockey didn't exist the way it does now. I'm not going to bother guessing at that, because it isn't even needed; just know that number is a lot lower, probably by half.
In 2024, ignoring Europe since I don't want to scheme that out regionally, Russia, US, and CAN combine for 522 million people. 32 NHL teams draw players from that population pool of half a billion, and that's a lowball. People who read my nonsense in the past know where this is going.
In the 70s, the available talent was far lower. That's the brutal math of it. Half the population to draw from, and also the youth development programs weren't at full steam yet either; hell, the boilers had barely even fired up. Teams didn't assemble lineups with 1 or 2 scoring lines, followed by several filler lines who mostly tried to survive until the scorers could get back on, just because that was "honest" and "pure." It was necessity. There wasn't enough talent to do anything else while competing with an upstart league and everyone else in your own league.
Here in the 20s, with vastly better youth development and well over twice the population to draw from, there is enough talent. The best teams are often rolling 3 or 4 lines that will outscore their counterparts, instead of holding on until the top lines take the ice. The good teams are actively trying to compile the needed talent to do that. Building from the top down and pushing the dregs downwards into the minors.
The Flyers are not in the 2020s. The Flyers behave like it is 1975. They build teams like the talent needed doesn't exist. Like if someone isn't clearly good enough to be a top scorer on the team, then they are only going to get their team wrecked trying to do that so the best thing is to just turn them into defensive drones that survive their shifts, because that was frequently the nature of the skill gap in the 70s, which isn't the case anymore. They aren't even attempting to max out talent and have it trickle down the roster. They build like there is only enough talent to assemble one or two scoring lines. And the bottom half is for survival. Worse, they glorify that method that was rooted in scarcity that doesn't exist anymore.
It's unreal how outmoded their thinking is. They're living in another time, and their appraisal of that time is clouded by nostalgia for it as the "good old days" instead of the "trying to make do" days. They've carefully trained Briere to follow this thought process, too.
There just isn't any fixing this. There is no way that a front office that thinks like this is ever going to stumble into a winning roster. They're deliberately self-limiting themselves to emulate an extinct time of shortage, for no reason. It's like choosing to live like you're poor, while you have tons of money in the bank waiting to be taken, and while also lamenting that you're poor.
They've really gotta fire everyone. Because everyone of them is hypnotized by this nostalgia. And nothing is going to get better until they break free of the past and think like it's right now.
On a positive note, it is certainly a unique approach! - Striiker
Well written and engaging. Have you thought of trying out for the Flyers’ blogger position here? |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Well written and engaging. Have you thought of trying out for the Flyers’ blogger position here? - Dkos
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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That's the exact point. The organization has identified both as part of the core. Of course, more is needed. Since both are at their ceiling now, it makes more sense to add talent sooner then later. Just drafting and developing will take too long to maximize the ceilings of TK and Sanheim. - Trox88
It’s totally fine to have a couple of veterans along for the ride while you are drafting and developing. Trying to become relevant based off of those two players is extremely foolish. I’d hope guys like Risto and other wingers are moved out this year and next. |
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WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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Bruins fire MJL's favorite modern NHL coach, Jim Montgomery. Montgomery as Bruins coach had a record of 120 wins, 41 losses, and 23 loser points, and .715 winning percentage. It's called Bruins - jd250
Just a couple of seasons ago the Bruins set a record for wins. The miss Bergeron and Kreicji
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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Just a couple of seasons ago the Bruins set a record for wins. The miss Bergeron and Kreicji - WhiskeyMan
Their front office had a really bad off season |
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BINGO!
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.12.2020
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It’s totally fine to have a couple of veterans along for the ride while you are drafting and developing. Trying to become relevant based off of those two players is extremely foolish. I’d hope guys like Risto and other wingers are moved out this year and next. - ClaudeFather
So the plan is to consistently draft outside the top 5 and believe the scouting staff can identify enough prospects to build a team thru development? If that is case, does the current organizational structure from Briere all the way down to the AHL coaches be able to acomplish that objective? The franchise that best exemplifies that path is DAL. Jim Nill the GM since April '13 and the Stars best finish so far has been Western Conference Finals.
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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So the plan is to consistently draft outside the top 5 and believe the scouting staff can identify enough prospects to build a team thru development? If that is case, does the current organizational structure from Briere all the way down to the AHL coaches be able to acomplish that objective? The franchise that best exemplifies that path is DAL. Jim Nill the GM since April '13 and the Stars best finish so far has been Western Conference Finals. - Trox88
You can still get into the top 5 with those players if you move out some of the filler. |
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Joined: 08.21.2020
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You can still get into the top 5 with those players if you move out some of the filler. - ClaudeFather
rather move the top end pieces as they have much more value. |
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